Plagerism?

[armenian]

would using someone elses analogy (just one sentence, if anything is changed it is only the tense) be considered plagerism or a type of tribute?

[vheissu]

Usually, if it's someone else's work (sentence, paragraph) and you're using it, you should reference it. Eitherwise, yes, it is considered plagiarism.

[armenian]

so for example, music artists using a novels title as their band name or album name is plagerism aswell? or an author taking a song lyric and using it in his novel, hes supposed to cite?

[blazeofglory]

Plagiarism is a very bad imitation, and if the imitation is good it is creation.

[armenian]

yes master yoda

[armenian]

there a band named after a faulker novel (i forget which), is that plagerizing?

ipearl jam uses a beatle lyric in one of their songs is that plagerizing?

[jgweed]

There are some phrases, titles, even brandnames that have so infiltrated ordinary speech that it would not be correct to call it plagiarism. How many phrases, for example, from Pope have become commonplace.
If you think about it, plagiarism is not simply a uncited quotation, but the intentional pawning it off as your OWN work or idea; in the case of using a well-known lyric, one would assume it is a complimentary allusion and not intended to be construed as original.

[blackbird_9]

If you think about it, plagiarism is not simply a uncited quotation, but the intentional pawning it off as your OWN work or idea; in the case of using a well-known lyric, one would assume it is a complimentary allusion and not intended to be construed as original.

That's it exactly.

[Jozanny]

so for example, music artists using a novels title as their band name or album name is plagerism aswell? or an author taking a song lyric and using it in his novel, hes supposed to cite?

Wrong, titles cannot be copyrighted, so if I wanted to write a poem called Yellow Brick Road, neither Elton John nor Bernie Taupin could sue me for copyright infringement. Alluding to the lyrics of the song in a stanza of a poem could be tricky, however.

If your intent is to honor a source through imitation and allusion, authors or musicians are usually allowed some creative leeway. But borrowing from an original source directly requires either permission or falls under fair use.

Citing sources, which jg indicated, usually falls into scholars responsibility.

It is tricky stuff to negeotiate in the Internet age.

[jgweed]

We don't write, "Tom went to the store to Xerox@ a copy of his thesis" or always put quotation marks around "all that glistens is not gold" with a footnote.

Jozanny mentions the Internet, not without reason, I think. The lack of citing sources (and not just in scholarly texts) and the constant cross-borrowings without references, especially in the blogosphere makes plagiarism far too easy and finding the truth far too difficult. Untruths take on a life of their own and, unless one is careful, become truths (e.g."urban legends").

[kasie]

so for example, music artists using a novels title as their band name or album name is plagerism aswell? or an author taking a song lyric and using it in his novel, hes supposed to cite?

Aside from the plagiarism issue (passing off someone else's work as your own original work) in the use of lyrics there may also be a copyright issue. I think you may have to seek permission to use them if you are writing for publication. Many deceased authors' estates also continue to own copyright and permission should be sought to quote their works.

[Kafka's Crow]

there a band named after a faulker novel (i forget which), is that plagerizing?

ipearl jam uses a beatle lyric in one of their songs is that plagerizing?

'As I Lay Dying'. Heavy metal rock sort of stuff that I grew out of quite some time ago. On the same note: have you heard Sarah Brightman's 'Les fleurs du mal'? Absolutely beautiful, I am sure Baudelaire would not mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkmGuEAvmf0

[AuntShecky]

One would assume the original work would be free of spelling and grammatical errors. It's "plagiarism."
(By the bye, the word derives from the Latin term for
"kidnapper.")