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Sunflower
07-22-2008, 03:09 AM
Do you think well-behaved women seldom make history?

How about mis-behaving women, do they always make history?

You wanna well bahave or misbehave? Why:lol:

manolia
07-22-2008, 04:45 AM
I wonder what you mean by "well - behaved"..;)

Guinivere
07-22-2008, 06:09 AM
When I read the Thread I immediately thought of the suffragettes at the beginning of the 20th century. They were certainly a mixture of well-behaved upper-class women and of cousre a bunch of revolutionaries. But well-behaved or not they were neccessary. But lots of people thought them outragious.

Lyn
07-22-2008, 07:29 AM
The very notion that women should 'behave' or 'misbehave' just makes me think immediately of them being treated like children who have to obey the rules laid down for them by men.... which unfortunately may well be a typical point of view in the minds of many in our society. Certainly from my own point of view, it is a rare man who doesn't patronise me or attempt to make me feel smaller, less important, less in charge and my decisions / opinions of less worth than theirs. Most of them claim they don't, but they do. There is the odd exception though :)
No, women do not have to do outrageous things to become famous or to make a difference to the world. There are many, many examples of scientists, artists, poets, authors, and academics who are perfectly 'respectible' in terms of appearing to behave in general with the accepted ethical guidlines of their country / times and who also happen to be female.

Scheherazade
07-22-2008, 11:38 AM
You wanna well bahave or misbehave? Why:lol:
Why people ask so many whys? http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showpost.php?p=600477&postcount=4881

:p

Sunflower
07-23-2008, 02:14 AM
http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showpost.php?p=600477&postcount=4881

:p

:crash: ;)

blazeofglory
07-30-2008, 09:40 PM
maybe true

Remarkable
07-31-2008, 04:29 AM
I think that well-behaved PEOPLE in general seldom make history.But,still,what was misbehaviour hundreds of years ago today makes you honour...

armenian
07-31-2008, 08:07 AM
in general, people dont tend to make history

Guinivere
07-31-2008, 08:11 AM
in general, people dont tend to make history

Then who does ? Sheep ?

blazeofglory
08-03-2008, 09:06 PM
One makes history by being too good or too bad.

LittleKrystal
08-08-2008, 06:54 PM
I believe misbehaved women are in the lime light more often than women who behave, but in the end (if I was famous) I'd want be respected. And, most of the female celebrities that are always in the lime light, are in it for negative reasons, if you want to live your life that way, you shouldn't be famous. Simply for the fact that you're not mature enough to be.

Equality72521
08-08-2008, 07:27 PM
The "mis-behaved" women definately get the attention. The "well-behaved" women get, not necessarily ignored, but they live their life as they see fit.

The Mis-Behaved are like the annoying kids in elementary school who act out for attention.

EAP
08-08-2008, 09:19 PM
What a horrible topic. Do well-behaved blacks seldom make history?

Deng Xiang
08-09-2008, 01:29 AM
What do you propose to say?
Well behaved and bad behaved people are all in history!

DecemberSun
08-09-2008, 11:29 AM
Then who does ? Sheep ?

:lol:

JBI
08-09-2008, 11:38 AM
This proposes an interesting question. When thinking of such feminists as Simone de Beauvoir, one cannot help but think that she broke the rules. The fact remains that gender rules are only passed (for lack of a better term) when a "super(wo)man" decides to transcend them. Of course, it is bad men and bad women who intentionally make history.

Homer I think sets it down first, where Achilles is portrayed as something horrible, yet he is the best, and does what has never been done before, stands up to the ruler, Agamemnon, and places the strongest warrior, in fact all the warriors, over the strongest leader. As a result he sets the standard.

All central historical people (ones who change the way we think without inventing a piece of technology or making a scientific discovery) do something similar, they break what has stood before, in order to recreate things in their image.

For that reason, feminists have been challenging rules set up artificially by society, as a means of destroying the barriers, and recreating the world in their image.

Yes, I am aware this is all a strange misreading of Nietzsche.

Scheherazade
12-16-2010, 01:45 PM
The OP:
Do you think well-behaved women seldom make history?

How about mis-behaving women, do they always make history?

You wanna well bahave or misbehave? Why:lol:

MystyrMystyry
12-16-2010, 10:18 PM
Women are phenomenal and mysterious beings.

Infinitely capable and caring in the same breath.

Bonnie Parker made mishistory (like infamy), as did Ma Parker. There's a few Pirate Queens (and real Queens like Catherine the Great and Mary of Scots, who were also not to be messed with).

But women tend to be saner and wiser than men and if they err it tends to be on the side of caution.

Most of us humans have similar foibles - we make rash unwise purchases that we're later ashamed of. Women may get better at it through practice (and learn to hide the evidence), while men just learn to loathe shopping from too many repeat bad experiences.

But anyway, Vive La Difference!

And to all bad girls who've enriched history, More power to ya!