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motherhubbard
07-19-2008, 11:51 AM
My five year old had been learning to shoot a BB gun. I thought I’d share pictures of my son’s first kill.

I thought someone else may have a pic from their hunting expeditions (especially since many people hunt with a camera) that hey could share.

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q390/6arnold/DSCF1117.jpg

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q390/6arnold/DSCF1118.jpg

sprinks
07-19-2008, 12:06 PM
:lol: oooooh dear. Nice aim there ;). I was all worried that he'd actually killed something and the pics were going to be all icky.... I'm not a big fan of hunting, at all.

motherhubbard
07-19-2008, 12:17 PM
sprinks, was it that fear that made you look?

sprinks
07-19-2008, 01:42 PM
Kind of... Sort of like just then, I was watching Hannibal... Didn't really want to, but I just had to :lol:. Also then I remembered your blog entry, and that I read about it there!! :D

Virgil
07-19-2008, 02:21 PM
:eek: Oh my God. :lol: Shouldn't he have been supervised? Who was with him that let him aim at your car? I assume that's your car.

I take it you have figured out how to post pictures. ;)

pussnboots
07-19-2008, 03:00 PM
so, I have to ask, what did your son do when he shot the window?

Niamh
07-19-2008, 04:06 PM
Oh Man! the poor car! he killed it!

papayahed
07-19-2008, 08:58 PM
ohhhhhh noooooo!!!:lol: :lol:

motherhubbard
07-20-2008, 05:06 PM
:eek: Oh my God. :lol: Shouldn't he have been supervised? Who was with him that let him aim at your car? I assume that's your car.

I take it you have figured out how to post pictures. ;)


Yes, I believe that a boy with a BB gun should be supervised. My husband and I are in disagreement on this matter. It is true that a BB gun is relatively safe and don't usually cause damage, but I prefer supervision. As always- I won the argument.


so, I have to ask, what did your son do when he shot the window?


I was painting and my husband was doing some construction related thing when this happened. Mason came in and I could hear him telling his daddy that he needed him to come look at something. Husband said he was kind of busy and maybe mason could just tell him about it. Mason said he had done something on accident and it was really bad. Husband said what was it and mason told him he shot the window of my van. I had to hide a little because I got tickled about it (no one was hurt and I love when I'm right and husband is wrong). I couldn't be mad, not at mason anyway. We all went out to look at it and Mason asked what we were going to do about it. I said the first thing we would do is not shoot anymore unless there is a grown up around. and them I ran in to a salvage yard and picked up a new window and my husband replaced it real quick. As far as accidents go it could have been much worse. Mason now understands it’s important to look at what is behind the target. We actually have a special place just for shooting with a large rock backstop.

Virgil
07-20-2008, 05:29 PM
Yes, I believe that a boy with a BB gun should be supervised. My husband and I are in disagreement on this matter. It is true that a BB gun is relatively safe and don't usually cause damage, but I prefer supervision. As always- I won the argument.

You've got the proof. :lol:


I was painting and my husband was doing some construction related thing when this happened. Mason came in and I could hear him telling his daddy that he needed him to come look at something. Husband said he was kind of busy and maybe mason could just tell him about it. Mason said he had done something on accident and it was really bad. Husband said what was it and mason told him he shot the window of my van. I had to hide a little because I got tickled about it (no one was hurt and I love when I'm right and husband is wrong). I couldn't be mad, not at mason anyway. We all went out to look at it and Mason asked what we were going to do about it. I said the first thing we would do is not shoot anymore unless there is a grown up around. and them I ran in to a salvage yard and picked up a new window and my husband replaced it real quick. As far as accidents go it could have been much worse. Mason now understands it’s important to look at what is behind the target. We actually have a special place just for shooting with a large rock backstop.
Well at least he didn't try to hide and let you find it yourself. ;) You guys are so self sufficient. I probably would have taken the van to an auto body shop and been charged hundreds of dollars.

Niamh
07-20-2008, 06:35 PM
Is he not a bit young to be messing with a gun of any sort? I mean he is only five.

motherhubbard
07-21-2008, 12:19 AM
I probably would have taken the van to an auto body shop and been charged hundreds of dollars.

38.75 I'm so glad it wasn't the windshield!

Is he not a bit young to be messing with a gun of any sort? I mean he is only five.

Having been a city girl who was never knowingly around guns I can understand this question. I don't disagree with you.

Sweets America
07-21-2008, 12:51 AM
I am astounded that you find it funny to let a five year old kid play with a gun. I bet you'll find it as funny when he accidentally shoots someone. :eek:

motherhubbard
07-21-2008, 01:04 AM
Yes, sweets. Of course

Niamh
07-21-2008, 06:18 AM
I've spent a lot of my youth in the country, and there is no way I would have been let near a gun at that age and i wouldnt even dream of letting my seven year old nephew near a real gun.

papayahed
07-21-2008, 07:55 AM
hmmmm, I don't know how old I was but I remember the neighbor boys always having BB guns.

Virgil
07-21-2008, 08:14 AM
I'm not sure whether it makes a difference whether it's a BB gun or regular gun. You can certainly take out someone's eye with a BB gun. So I believe supervision should be required for both for a five year old. I see nothing wrong with a five year old being taught to use either a BB or a ballistic gun as long as there is proper supervison. Especially if you live in a rural area like Mom-H.

Guinivere
07-21-2008, 10:29 AM
Are you serious about letting a five year old play with guns ? Shouldn't children be taught how to ride a bike, etc. at that age.

Virgil
07-21-2008, 11:03 AM
Are you serious about letting a five year old play with guns ? Shouldn't children be taught how to ride a bike, etc. at that age.

With the right supervision, yeah I'm serious. Obviously it has to be a gun with not too much of a recoil. But if he can handle the recoil why not?

Sweets America
07-21-2008, 11:48 AM
Yes, sweets. Of course

Yes, that was what I thought. I guess it would be even funnier if your five year old shot one of your other kids, or himself. What a good sense of humor we both have!

I wonder what you want to teach your kid in handing him a gun... the joys of violence? When I think you left him all alone with the weapon...

You know me a little, how I always defend freedom of doing whatever you like, but my problem here is that someone else could have been physically hurt. It would be another thing if the person having the gun at least knew how to use it properly, but certainly that was not Mason's case.

motherhubbard
07-21-2008, 12:34 PM
Yes, that was what I thought. I guess it would be even funnier if your five year old shot one of your other kids, or himself. What a good sense of humor we both have!

I wonder what you want to teach your kid in handing him a gun... the joys of violence? When I think you left him all alone with the weapon...

You know me a little, how I always defend freedom of doing whatever you like, but my problem here is that someone else could have been physically hurt. It would be another thing if the person having the gun at least knew how to use it properly, but certainly that was not Mason's case.

yes, of course.

PrinceMyshkin
07-21-2008, 01:30 PM
well, l live just across a border from you, a line drawn in the earth and maintained by our two governments, but I feel as if we are in two different cultures. To plead that it was just a BB gun is like saying that the overture is not the actual opera. His hands are being trained to hold a gun, his mind to savour the extra-human power of being able to do damage from a distance. I was sorry to read this.

Scheherazade
07-21-2008, 01:55 PM
I would like to point out that the OP did not ask for advice whether it is a good idea to let children have BB guns

(neither in the initial post nor later on in the thread).

If you find the idea disagreeable, please feel free to ignore this thread.

Any off-topic posts will be deleted.

ClaesGefvenberg
07-21-2008, 02:58 PM
As always- I won the argument.:lol: I'll say you did: Mason kind of won it for you. Er... Why do I get the feeling that your hubby will be gently reminded of the outcome for many years to come? :D


no one was hurt and I love when I'm right and husband is wrongThat sounds vaguely familiar.... :lol:


As far as accidents go it could have been much worse.Yes. Jokes apart, it really could. I'm glad to hear it turned out so well.

Now that I think about it I remember watching a friend "kill" his fathers car with bow and arrow when we were kids (a good deal older than mason, though). His parents were not particularly amused... Grounded does not even begin to describe it. We both learned something from that incident: He learned to make certain he had a free field of fire, and I learned to duck (I was quite close to that car).

/Claes

Virgil
07-21-2008, 03:27 PM
Mom-H, I was wondering, you could probably have Mason watch the Olympic shooting events that will be coming up this summer. I think that will really inspire him to do a better job. You know the Olympics is full of shooting events, both winter and summer. Here's some of the history for the summer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_at_the_Summer_Olympics. I'm sure most of these athletes started at Mason's age. And who knows some day when he wins a gold medal you can hold over his head the picture of the car window. :D

motherhubbard
07-21-2008, 03:34 PM
though). His parents were not particularly amused... Grounded does not even begin to describe it. We both learned something from that incident: He learned to make certain he had a free field of fire, and I learned to duck (I was quite close to that car).

/Claes

I dont' blame Mason. Learning to check the field of fire is a very important lesson! I don't even like my kids to play in the yard during deer season.


Mom-H, I was wondering, you could probably have Mason watch the Olympic shooting events that will be coming up this summer. I think that will really inspire him to do a better job. You know the Olympics is full of shooting events, both winter and summer. Here's some of the history for the summer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_at_the_Summer_Olympics. I'm sure most of these athletes started at Mason's age. And who knows some day when he wins a gold medal you can hold over his head the picture of the car window. :D


I'm so so excited about the Olympics. My husband was the top shooter in the state one year. He won a big trophy and there was a thing in the paper. I bet they would love to do that together.

kilted exile
07-21-2008, 07:01 PM
hehehe that was funny. What's funnier is he is probably still a better shot than I am. Once at college a couple of my roommates set up a target for paintball in the basement, I had never fired a gun before and aimed at the target and proceeded to break the lightbulb 3feet above it. goodtimes.

Now, addressing the other stuff. I dont think it is irrensponsible at all to teach a young boy where M-H lives to shoot. If he knows how to correctly handle a weapon he is less likely to cause any accident like those suggested by Sweets. Do think adult supervision is still needed till at least 12/13 tho'. Just one other Q - do you have the guns locked up normally? (believe that is now the law up here)

motherhubbard
07-21-2008, 11:01 PM
Yes, kilt. guns are normally locked up. I do have one that is more accessible, but out of reach for the children. Also, their training and therefore their attitude about this rifle is different. When I need it I need it very quickly and that is surprisingly often. You wouldn’t believe the different kinds of animals that come into the yard- raccoons, opossum, deer, bobcat, and we have a bear that lives on the northeast corner of the property.

And like I said I do believe that supervision is important. He broke my rule thinking that he could get by with the more lenient rule which was that he could take the BB gun to the shooting area in the back yard when there were no other children in the yard.

Sorry to hear about your paint ball experience. I bet that made a big mess in the basement! We had some friends that liked to paintball. It can leave some really nasty bruises. Actually, worse than most BB gun bruises unless they are at really close range.