View Full Version : Can concept alone sell you a book? i.e. 1984
waryan
05-07-2008, 07:44 PM
I'm curious because I'll check out what later seemed like the worst written book simply if the concept is something really different and interesting like (1984; orwell, THE ROAD' mccarthy, CRASH; ballard, FIGHT CLUB; pallahniuk, HEART OF DARKNESS; conrad, FEED; anderson)
In studying screenwriting I've heard it said that more likely than not if a screenplay is horrible but the concept/premise is original it could still be purchased.
Anyway I guess anything such as 1984, Left hand of Darkness would be "speculative fiction" but I suppose reading about that type is what brought this question on.
What gets you guys to pick up a book? Is it concept and if so what kind of concept- something more romantic or naturalistic ("In a dystopian universe the government enforces people to endlessly sing karaoke...") or ("During war torn Europe a disparaged family seeks to reunite with a son who ends up fighting on the enemy's side...) or perhaps ("The feministic analysis of a woman and her trials in everyday culture") etc. or is it something else?
I know if I read something ambiguous such as the latter example I usually won't end up with that book, but I'm curious to hear everyone's tendancies.
Personal examples are greatly welcome.
More people talk about 1984, and quote Animal Farm than have read the books. Most people pretend.
aeroport
05-08-2008, 04:50 AM
If it's nonfiction, an interesting 'concept' is obviously appealing. However, conceptual fiction holds very little interest for me. If I am not reading because the characters are interesting, it's hard for me to justify.
johann cruyff
05-08-2008, 06:14 AM
Hmm,I didn't think 1984 or Animal Farm were badly written at all.
As for the concept selling the book...yes,I guess it does.I,for instance,bought and read House of Leaves purely for its fresh(although I later learned that it's not as new and original as you might've first suspected) concept,even though I'd usually never even consider such a book in the first place.
Shannanigan
05-08-2008, 10:33 AM
I read 1984 and Animal Farm before knowing anything about their concepts, a family friend bought them for me and no one ever told me about the "meaning" behind the stories...it wasn't until later that I started to think about it, and then I heard they were popular books, so I looked them up online and was "wowed" by what I found.
I enjoyed them even without the concepts.
Anyway, more to the topic...I don't know if it matters if we here would buy a book based on concept, the truth is, the masses will. Sad but true.
I bought "Blink" because it sounded like a cool book, then hated it. I can't get my money back...so yeah, I got suckered, like a lot of people, and bought a book on concept that (in my opinion) sucked.
kelby_lake
05-08-2008, 12:20 PM
I think the majority of people would read a book with a strange concept and perhaps the content might overrule the poor writing
sprinks
05-08-2008, 12:42 PM
Most often I read books based on concept, things that are unusual or interesting. Right now in Lit we're reading a book where the concept is quite intersting, but the beginning is so badly written that it took me 3 goes of reading it before I could go any further!
kandaurov
05-09-2008, 03:39 AM
1984 is a masterful book, but you're very right when you say that concept sells. For example, if I were to 'sell' 1984 to someone, I'd mention not only the 'dystopia' premisse, but also the 'Newspeak' feature: that appendix on Newspeak is to me the definition of genius, and this concept of 'language/conscience narrowing' definitely sells among linguistic researchers. As a further example, I've recently been reading books recommended by fellow litnet members which deal with chess. You can say that, in my case, the 'chess' concept sells.
kandaurov
05-09-2008, 03:48 AM
Oh, and of course the previous posters are also right when they say that a good concept alone doesn't make a good book. I'd just like to point out that a concept sells, yes, but in some cases it's all you've got when you're considering reading a book, so the decision can depend on whether the premisse is good or not, which is not too bad a criterion.
waryan
05-09-2008, 05:19 AM
great comments everyone- I agree it's often hard to find a book that holds both a gripping premise and the insightful writing often found in great literature. No doubt 1984 is so popular because on top of the concept Orwell could write a good book.
I'm always taken in by concepts such as that of M.T.Anderson's feed which was referenced in an amazon review for a book I was reading. Feed is essentially a young adult fiction novel that is set in the future where School is privatized and there is no limit to corporate sponsorship- i.e. the "Feed" is a chip implanted in the teen protagonists' heads which scroll "pop-ups" and advertisements endlessly in their minds. Anyway, point in case, great concept- poorly executed book IMO, but I bought the book based soley upon this reference and learned of these concepts, only then to learn that perhaps sometimes I should simply admire the ideas and then go back to something more worthwhile.
On the other hand I enjoyed THE ROAD by Cormac M. for both its concept and its execution. I hate to sound so superficial though, yet I am a real speculative fiction junkie I guess and it spills into whatever I choose to read.
Though I think as far as concept-oriented stories go, I guess dystopian novels are more highly respected in literature as Orwell, Burgess and others have set standards with it but that is certainly up for debate!
Joreads
05-12-2008, 02:27 AM
Unless a book is recommended to you the only thing you have to go on is the concept. I loved Animal Farm and 1984 but I read them long before I was mature enough to understand them. I have since gone back and re read them. The Road was IMO one of the best books that I have read in a long time. It actually kept me up at night for a whole week thinking about it.
Concepts sell at least they do to me.
kelby_lake
05-12-2008, 06:58 AM
concepts sell if the concept works. if you had an idea about a dog that can turn into different road signs and kill people whilst emitting yellow fog, the concept is a bit bizarre and may not work.
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