Logos, we are calling:

[Stanislaw]

We have a few grievances to bring up with you, I know admin has granted you power to edit, delete and lock, but perhaps you are getting carried away.
There are others who share my opinion.

If you share my opinion, post your grievances/ thoughts on this matter here and now.

[imthefoolonthehill]

uh... what did he lock? confused....man did i get out of the loop

[Logos]

Stanislaw, maybe you can post some specific examples of exactly how you think I am `getting carried away'.

I did not ban hiiThuan.

I deleted some posts in his topic because there were swear words and a racial slur used.

Some people went on to quote his post, hence my deleting those posts that contained the swear words and racial slur.

[rocksea]

I think it is ok if that is ^ what Logos did, what a moderator should be doing. If it is so, stan you shud not blame him/her as it is his duty. If anyone wants swear and racial slur to be posted, shud ask the admin to change the rules, rt?

[subterranean]

I don't approve your act in deleting posts..leave them as they are.

[Logos]

As per the Forum Rules, posts containing swear words and or racial slurs will be deleted.

[subterranean]

why....??????

[Logos]

Maybe some people need to be reminded of the Forum Rules here because I am not here to discuss nor defend myself in my Moderator duties.

I am here merely to see that they are followed, as well as the issues of politics, swearing and age-inapporpritate content.

Emphasis mine in bold.




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[subterranean]

I don't agree with what hihtuan wrote in his post but personally i prefer if you leave that post alone, that way me and other members will always able to see what he has wrote n why the lad got banned.

[rocksea]

sub, what you say is a personal preference. but logos have to do what his job is, rt? why you blame him alone for carrying out his duty? i think you should ask admin to change the rules then. otherwise, this is a personal attack. sad :(

[subterranean]

originally posted by Stan: There are others who share my opinion.


several personals preferences. better say something that keep quite.

[subterranean]

and believe me..this is not attack..believe me!

[rocksea]

ok, do u think i can post some xxx pictures and let everyone see it?
don't say it is a different thing (cuz it is visual and more catching)

and as long as you name a particular person and write comments like " Don't be power hungry because admin is gone.".. "shame on you!!!!",, just cuz he did what he was supposed to, i feel it is a personal attack and hindrance to a moderator's job.

and do you think logos shud go against forum rules?? why anyone didn't reply on that?? i think u shud change ur signatures and maybe put like "shame on forum rules" instead.

[Scheherazade]

I agree with rocksea that Logos is doing his job;i.e. carrying out his tasks as dictated by the Forum Rules. When we register and become members of forums, we, initially, agree with the rules which aim to provide a safe and secure atmosphere for its users. If you have any issues or dissatisfaction with these rules, you should take them to the Admin, by emailing him if necessary.

Targetting Logos at the moment seems futile and unnecessary. I have not witnessed him favouring certain individuals/subjects or being negligent. He is merely doing what he is expected of him as a moderator.

As for the necessity of deletion of certain messages or closure of certain forums... We all come from different ethnic/racial/cultural/social backgrounds and for us to be able to carry on as a community on here, we do need to have certain rules. Swearing or anything which might be offensive to certain members cannot be tolerated. If individuals behave unacceptably are banned from the site, why not their messages and posts?

[Admin]

I totally support Logos' actions here. Things like that are just not tolerated. This forum has to stay kid friendly. Alot of teachers believe it or not tell their students to come here. They aren't going to do that if there is that kind of filth in the forums.

When a thread goes downhill it is standard operating procedure in just about all forums to remove all posts after the point where it goes bad.

For instance if you have a thread that degenerates into name calling you don't need to delete the whole thread, just from where the name calling starts to the end.

Even if the name calling is one sided, you need to still remove both sides as otherwise anyone coming into the thread is going to be really confused as to why the other side keep complaining about name calling that isn't apparent.

So you basically have two goals.

1. Getting rid of the filth.
2. Maintaining the coherence of the thread.

[Riddick]

You guys a being retards, Stanislaw and Subterranean, Logos was doing his job. If you want to read racist ****, and view inapropriate crap then go to another forum. You don't respect the rules you gotta go. I vote that they both be temp banned, for a month or something, let them come back when they learn to be mature. Not just a bunch of whiny highschool students who fell its their right to fight the 'man'.

We don't need people like that hear, I could see if logos was being an ***, but he was just doing what Admin told him to.

So the morale is put up or shutup and get out.

Everyone who thinks they should be temp banned post hear, doesn't sound so cool when it's against you does it?

[Bongitybongbong]

how's about fighting ur own battles but i give you one thing *dagger to the chest of Riddick*

[Riddick]

how's about fighting ur own battles but i give you one thing *dagger to the chest of Riddick*

real mature, you agree with those losers?

[Scheherazade]

Name calling is very mature too, Riddick... :rolleyes:

[Bongitybongbong]

sometimes but you have to respect others opinions and not force upon gunpoint (yes i am very ironic)

[amuse]

well, some of my posts were deleted. because they referenced some of those deleted points, i'm fine with that: the thread remains coherent. and we know the rules, we don't need to see how they're broken to know not to break them.

but i understand, esp. because we would like to be free to express ourselves, why some would want those posts to remain. it's just that that isn't the way of foruming - we are in an environment where some things are not tolerated, and since this is the same in many forums, i say we respect those rules. i'm happy that they're here; if they weren't, we'd probably have a fair sample of unsavory threads, posts, and forum members around here.

[Admin]

I'm closing this thread now since I don't want you guys fighting with each other.