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LadyW

04-12-2008, 04:40 AM

:eek: I am sorry to say this but your boyfriend needs a kick up the arse...
He doesn't have the right to dictate to you what you should look like.
If you're not happy with yourself then sure do something about it. Otherwise, tell him to stick it.
What business is it of his anyway?
In fact, I think you should start with your own healthy regime at your own pace then purchase a HUUUGE fat suit just to p*ss him off ;)

Edit: Sorry that probablly wasn't very helpful.

Pensive

04-12-2008, 04:46 AM

I would agree with all who say your boyfriend needs a kick up the ***!

as long as i keep him happy he seems okay and dont yell much. so i realy neeeeeed to do this

That's outrageous!

hes 26 and a body builder with a nasty temper...im 15, and a lot smaller than him with a scared of men attitude...

Erm....such an age gap. By the way, if you are so scared of men then why are you still together with him? (I hope I am not sounding mean, but I am finding it a bit weird)

As for weight loss, you have to do it for yourself not him. Try to eat lesser but not too much. Exercise is good too but not suddenly too much. As for dieting....hmmmm I don't know, I have never been on diet....

Oniw17

04-12-2008, 04:58 AM

80 pounds?! That's the size my mom is, and it's not attractive at all. Sucked in eyes and all that, like an old person. Diet pills & shakes only give you no solid food, which I hear is bad for your digestive system.You could start smoking crack, but I wouldn't recomend it...and um...nevermind.

sprinks

04-12-2008, 05:12 AM

I'm sorry but that really doesn't sound like a healthy relationship.

And it shouldn't matter how much you weigh exactly so long as you are healthy and happy. I'm a little lost though coz here we use kilos not pounds so I'm not sure if the weights you are talking about are really bad or what.

I do hope you manage to lose the weight you want to lose, as long as it's what YOU want and if it'll make you feel good; not just because it's what your boyfriend wants.

Oniw17

04-12-2008, 05:19 AM

80lbs is about 35 kg.

sprinks

04-12-2008, 05:25 AM

Thanks, but gee wow that's bad. Right now I'm happy that I'm just under 70 kg! And I'm 15 too! And I am short compared to most of the people I know - I'm around 165 cm tall

I don't think that's a healthy weight for a 15 year old no matter how short they are. I know one girl whos probably around 40 something kg and about my height and being that thin just really isn't nice looking.

Sounds like your boyfriend just wants a skeleton rather than a relationship with a living human being.

Sir Bartholomew

04-12-2008, 06:36 AM

water and that 6pm thingy worked for me

Chava

04-12-2008, 10:15 AM

80 pounds is malnurished. It's completely ridiculous. I'm 5'5", and i weigh between 120-130 pounds, it ranges in the months according to my excersise and food intake.
Step, you don't need someone around to tell you you're not good enough, us humans are plenty good at telling ourselves that. You need someone to tell you the truth, that you're quite wonderful and proportional as you are.

ClaesGefvenberg

04-12-2008, 10:55 AM

so i managed to stop smoking...but i gained 18 pounds in the process im now at the horrible 5'2 118pounds... and well the boyfriend is getting pissed at his less than perfect girlfriend, thats me, and wants me to weigh 80 before may...help? any sugestionsYes, Steph, you managed to quit smoking, and that was impressive enough. You displayed an amazing strength of character there, and now I think you need to display it again: My opinion (now that I have done the conversions - not very used to Lbs & Ft) is that your weight to length ratio is just right. 80lbs would drop you deep down into the underweight and anorexia pit. Please, do not go there! Besides, even if it was warranted, which I say again is not the case, your bf's desire to see you drop from 118 to 80 Lbs equals a loss of no less than one third of your bodyweight. To require you to do that when you are not overweight is nothing short of appalling.

As for your bf, I do not usually express myself like this, but in this case I will make an exception to that rule: I concur with the general consensus here, that he is in dire need of a good, well aimed boot up his backside.

/Claes

papayahed

04-12-2008, 11:09 AM

I have to question the motivation of a 26 year old man dating a 15 year old girl. Nothing against you Steph but there are reasons why it's illegal.

Claes is right, you are currently at a good weight for your height.

Nightshade

04-12-2008, 01:17 PM

ehh you do realise not only are you well within the optimum weight range for your height your at the lower end of it?
heck Ill aiming for 126 lbs and Im shorter than you , the very least you should be weighing ( and I think this is ridiculously small anyway ) is 105.8 lbs .
Ultra skinny is not an attractive look on anyone, an its unhealthy. Also even if you wanted to lose the weight and chose to doso you cant loose that much wieght that fast without long termside affects, that could possibley even kill you.

andave_ya

04-12-2008, 03:11 PM

!!!! Steph I would do anything to be your weight!!! *shudders* Be careful with that dude; you're far and away more important than he.

stephofthenight

04-12-2008, 08:03 PM

hes fine. and its just. im trying to get over being afraid.
but he comes frist, not me...thats just the way it is, always has been...to both of us

dramasnot6

04-12-2008, 10:01 PM

Congratulations on quitting smoking,steph! He should be proud of you for accomplishing that,not upset at your gaining weight!

Remember to keep healthy and happy, don't starve yourself and don't work yourself too hard.
If you are going to diet,only only do it for YOU. Not him. Don't let some man dictate your life. If he loves you, he'll want your happiness and your health to come first,not the way you look.

Anza

04-12-2008, 10:35 PM

if you dump him, you'll instantly lose whatever he weighs... :D
1) exercise before breakfast
2) eat breakfast. not eating breakfast is more unhealthy than eating a donut and coffee.
3) Cut down on mayonnaise, and salad dressing.
4) Bake foods instead of frying. By baking you reduce the calories by 1/2
5) substitute Coke for CokeZero. It has no calories and tastes better.
6) Chew slowly
7) want seconds? drink water after a meal, and wait twenty minutes for getting seconds-- it takes that ling for your stomach to tell your brain that you are full.
8) to lose one lb a week (1 lb= 3500 calories): do 500 calories worth of exercise a day, eat 500 less calories a day, or do some combo of the two.

Pensive

04-13-2008, 02:01 AM

Steph, your BMI (Body Mass Index) is 21.6 (if I haven't done it wrong, and you can always visit this website (http://www.halls.md/body-mass-index/bmi.htm) to make it sure.

Just yesterday I got my weight checked in Doctor's clinic after about three years or so when I went there to get over my severe flu and temperature. My BMI is 19 and I am a bit thin. I am not actually really 'under-weight' but I am on the very lower-side of normal. Not something to be really proud of I guess and it wouldn't probably hurt me to gain a few more pounds.

hes fine. and its just. im trying to get over being afraid.
but he comes frist, not me...thats just the way it is, always has been...to both of us

I am perhaps being emotional here but that's one of the reasons I am not very much attracted towards radical/extreme feminism. If men consider themselves superior, then women do have a hand behind it too at times. It's good to make up certain compromises in a relationship but that's far too much...

I have to question the motivation of a 26 year old man dating a 15 year old girl. Nothing against you Steph but there are reasons why it's illegal.

Exactly.

Nightshade

04-13-2008, 05:18 AM

if you want to snack snak on raisins...
and did I say congrats on the quitting smoking?

cranberry

04-13-2008, 05:38 AM

honey you shouldn't die in order to look perfect -- he might be very well caring about you...but thats not good when you kill yourself just to get thin:
look out those points very well in mind sweetie:

1- when you think you have alot to loose , you will get depressed and then
gain wieght....just walk and have dinner at 7 so that you have plenty of time to disgest the food inside of you.

2- dont take pills they wont help ,just move and eat normally like any other human and when you prevent your self from eating something- your body might be in need of it.

if i were you i would eat normally but move , look i am 81 KG but but but >>>
when i started to walk and eat normally i lost wieght.

Thanks and hope the advise is good.

stephofthenight

04-14-2008, 07:22 PM

idk. sometimes, i want to do something for myself but i feel selfish... And he always makes me feel guilty if I do something I want to do, that he doesnt want me to... Idk, maybe im wrong, but its what i deserve so, what can be done... well i'v lost 3 pounds in 3 days :D

dramasnot6

04-15-2008, 08:49 AM

Steph, why does he come first? You need to come first sometimes, too. (If it's none of my business, just say so, I don't mind. And I apologize.)

And congratulations for stopping smoking. That's the best thing you can do for your health and for those who love you. You're very strong to have stopped. :)

I'll second that.

Sweets America

04-15-2008, 09:04 AM

I agree with LadyW's first post here and with what some others have said. You have to think if you're really happy the way your boyfriend treats you. Perhaps you are, but what you wrote here sounded like regrets somehow, as if you would prefer having more freedom or being loved differently. You can have this freedom if you want to, maybe there is another man who would love you for who you are and you would feel a great difference. You don't have to be imprisoned in order to be loved.

For my part, I want to be the one choosing what to do with my body. Some people tell me I'm too skinny, but people will always criticize you. I love my body the way it is and that's the most important. I would advise you to do what feels right to you.

Oh, now about a 25 years old dating a 15 years old, I see absolutely nothing wrong with that, we don't choose who we fall in love with, and I will not judge that, it would be quite ridiculous. Be happy, girl, and congratulations for stopping smoking! :)

*Classic*Charm*

04-17-2008, 01:14 AM

Hey Steph! Congrats on quitting smoking! That's a huge deal.

I have to ask you though, what happens when you do get down to 80 pounds? Do you think your boyfriend will be happy then? Or will he immediately find something else to complain about? Here's the thing- no matter what you look like, and I'm sure you're a beautiful girl as you are, people like him will never be satisfied. Someone who scares you and forces you to change yourself is not taking care of you- he's only taking care of himself. And if you do get to be that small, you will be too weak to be able to function, even little things like getting up and down will be exhausting, let alone anything strenuous. Will that, too, make him mad?

The last thing I want to sound like I'm doing is criticizing you- it sounds like you get enough of that.

My dear, you're only fifteen and you say it's "always" been like this. You're too young to be experiencing an "always" relationship that is this hurtful. You should never be afraid. That's not safe. I know it's hard when you love someone, but you have to love yourself first. And that means taking care of you, not taking care of what he wants so you're not scared, I mean Take Care of You.

Good Luck, Be Brave, and Take Care.

applepie

04-17-2008, 08:22 AM

Congrats on quitting smoking. Since I'm getting the picture that losing weight is important to you, I'm going to give the bit of advice that took me years to learn. I'm not skinny any more, but at my tiniest I was only 5'2'' and 117. About what you are now. It's a good weight, and there is no need to go below that. If there is worry over fat or trouble spots, hit the gym and build up muscle tone. You are not going to lose digits on your weight, but the difference will be huge. In short, don't stress the number on the scale, and just make sure you are fit and healthy. If that isn't good enough for the boyfriend, then maybe he isn't the right guy for you. His demands are pretty unreasonable as it is, and you'll not be healthy if you make it to you 80lb goal.

Take Care,
Meg

Lioness_Heart

04-17-2008, 01:23 PM

Please don't take offence: I don't mean to sound interfering and know litlle about the situation, but:

- Isn't 80 pounds five and a half stone? That isn't healthy for someone who's fifteen: it sounds like you're a perfect weight at the moment. Losing so much weight so fast could be dangerous: my brother got anorexia when he was a teenager and it has taken him over ten years to get over it. Also, damage done early tends to stick.

- Any lifestyle change will only have a positive effect if you do it for yourself. If you want to lose weight, and can can find a way to justify it to yourself, then people have little right to judge. But are you doing it for the right reasons?

- You're very young; do you feel that it is helping you to get into such a serious relationship? As your boyfriend is so much older, he should have the maturity to put you first. Don't destroy yourself to please him. It may be what he wants, but you're too important to do that for anyone.

-You say you're scared of men. I understand that. But if you've been hurt in the past, the worst thing you could do is to get into an abusive relationship: remember, there are different kinds of abuse, and if he's trying to control you... that doesn't sound healthy. You deserve someone who respects you; if he respected you, he wouldn't try to force you to do such damage to yourself.

Above all, you have to put yourself first - not all the time, but if you don't, no-one will. You're fifteen - you should be put first, or at least have equal standing in a relationship.

ClaesGefvenberg

04-29-2008, 11:51 AM

maybe im wrong, but its what i deserve so, what can be done... What? No, Steph... Why do you say that??? You are scaring your Lit Net friends.

well i'v lost 3 pounds in 3 days :DLook Steph. Please.... How many of us will it take to make you listen to us? You have no reason to lose weight.

/Claes

pussnboots

04-29-2008, 12:09 PM

I am very disturbed by what I am reading here. The last thing I want to do is offend anyone but Steph you are treading in a dangerous territory. First off, 80 lbs. is too low. A safe amt of weight to lose in a week is abt 1 - 2 pounds. You stated that you lost 3 pds in 3 days. This is not healthy. You will end up damaging your body and then what ? Will your BF still be there for you ?
Please don't let your BF run your life. You shld be able to do what you want to do and make yourself happy first. Remember, you always come first.

blp

04-29-2008, 12:23 PM

My slightly odd two cents: I think you gain a strange satisfaction from the horror of being treated badly by this guy.

Pensive

04-29-2008, 12:33 PM

Reminds me of Lote's thread 'Why do women like evil men' (or something like that). Do something, steph, to change the views of those who think women do like evil men.

BTW, it's nice to see you, blp, on General Chat section lately. Usually it's the Personality Poetry section where one finds you. :)

papayahed

04-29-2008, 01:44 PM

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Oh, now about a 25 years old dating a 15 years old, I see absolutely nothing wrong with that, we don't choose who we fall in love with, and I will not judge that, it would be quite ridiculous. Be happy, girl, and congratulations for stopping smoking! :)

Just because you call it "love" is no reason to throw out common sense.

Scorpio Ascendant

04-29-2008, 02:23 PM

Honey, you really need to drop him. Not your weight.

AimusSage

04-29-2008, 02:59 PM

I would offer advice, but that would not be legal, so instead I agree with the people here that you need to get rid of the idiot and take matters into your own hands, don't let others decide for you, not even us, but least of all that weirdo that wants to control you. Seriously, decide for yourself, and do what is best. Doubt is always around the corner, as is uncertainty, but with every decision you make, you get closer to finding what YOU want. Somehow I doubt you want to loose the weight, it is pressure you can do without.

Sweets America

04-29-2008, 03:18 PM

Just because you call it "love" is no reason to throw out common sense.

Common sense would be, for me, to avoid making amalgams about different situations. Her boyfriend behaves badly with her, but that might have nothing to do with their age difference. But of course, once again, people had to find reasons to point this out, because love which is out of the norm has to be criticized. I'm not surprised. I'm just hopeless.

AimusSage

04-29-2008, 03:32 PM

Common sense would be, for me, to avoid making amalgams about different situations. Her boyfriend behaves badly with her, but that might have nothing to do with their age difference. But of course, once again, people had to find reasons to point this out, because love which is out of the norm has to be criticized. I'm not surprised. I'm just hopeless.
There is a difference between common sense and deluded sense, ultimate freedom leads to ultimate anarchy. As much as I love to see people be free of judgement or stigma's there is just a place where the ego of one suppresses the other in co-dependence or dominance, which ultimately takes away all freedom and leaves total control.

Sweets America

04-29-2008, 03:48 PM

There is a difference between common sense and deluded sense, ultimate freedom leads to ultimate anarchy. As much as I love to see people be free of judgement or stigma's there is just a place where the ego of one suppresses the other in co-dependence or dominance, which ultimately takes away all freedom and leaves total control.

My question is why do you link what I said with the idea of dominance? What she is experiencing with her boyfriend is her personal story, this should not be taken as a model for any relationships with an age difference. But of course people who are against what is different will jump on this example to take advantage of it.:rolleyes:
And who talked about ultimate freedom? I know it is very difficult to have ultimate freedom, but I don't see why someone could not have freedom when it only concerns this person's life. But that has already been discussed elsewhere....
Anyway, I'm not sure the original poster would like her thread to go towards that direction, so I will make the effort to shut up, for once. :)

AimusSage

04-29-2008, 03:58 PM

My question is why do you link what I said with the idea of dominance? What she is experiencing with her boyfriend is her personal story, this should not be taken as a model for any relationships with an age difference. But of course people who are against what is different will jump on this example to take advantage of it.:rolleyes:
And who talked about ultimate freedom? I know it is very difficult to have ultimate freedom, but I don't see why someone could not have freedom when it only concerns this person's life. But that has already been discussed elsewhere....
Anyway, I'm not sure the original poster would like her thread to go towards that direction, so I will make the effort to shut up, for once. :)
Ah, you misunderstood, I am not against the age difference, although it might cause conflicts relating to the age difference, but that is on a case by case basis. I am against the (mental) dominance that she is subjected too. which you I am sure will agree with is a bad thing for her.

You refer to papaya's comment that love is no reason to throw out common sense by saying common sense is something completely nonsensical. You are the one to compare apples and oranges, That's all. :)

PrinceMyshkin

04-29-2008, 05:56 PM

stephofthenight

04-29-2008, 06:08 PM

okay, first off. I'm sorry that I upset you guys thats not what I wanted...I just wanted help on how to lose weight. The truth is I dont love him, but I'm going to stay with him, because I know eventualy ill learn to love him, and he cares about me. My age does not matter, my image does. Hes a model and a body builder, he cant have a crappy looking girlfriend like me. So if I'm going to stay in his life (and eventualy get over andy) I have to make some changes...my weight is the begining of a long road I'm taking not just for him but for myself as well. If i'm small enough he will learn to love me, and thats all I want.

papayahed

04-29-2008, 06:14 PM

i ddont mind at all dori in fact i think the same thing allllll the time... i realy hate him sometimes. as long as i keep him happy he seems okay and dont yell much. so i realy neeeeeed to do this

hes 26 and a body builder with a nasty temper...im 15, and a lot smaller than him with a scared of men attitude...

Common sense would be, for me, to avoid making amalgams about different situations. Her boyfriend behaves badly with her, but that might have nothing to do with their age difference. But of course, once again, people had to find reasons to point this out, because love which is out of the norm has to be criticized. I'm not surprised. I'm just hopeless.

Do the quotes above sound like love? Does it sound like someone capable of being in a mature relationship? Common sense makes me believe this isn't a good relationship. Common sense tells me that there is a world of difference in mind set, life experience, and expectations between 15 and 26.

You're right I am criticizing and I am butting in, So? that's what friends do. Just like I would tell my friend if thy're about to walk off a cliff I'd tell Steph this doesn't seem right.

stephofthenight

04-29-2008, 06:20 PM

Sweets America

04-30-2008, 02:25 AM

Do the quotes above sound like love? Does it sound like someone capable of being in a mature relationship? Common sense makes me believe this isn't a good relationship. Common sense tells me that there is a world of difference in mind set, life experience, and expectations between 15 and 26.

You're right I am criticizing and I am butting in, So? that's what friends do. Just like I would tell my friend if thy're about to walk off a cliff I'd tell Steph this doesn't seem right.

You don't understand what I meant. I meant that I agreed with you about this relationship which is abusive, but I meant that nobody should generalize about that and certainly not about age differences. Who are you to know about all the 15 years old and all the 25 years old? Your common sense is only your closed-minded opinion.

Pensive

04-30-2008, 06:16 AM

And my bf does care, and he treats me pretty decent.

Yeah, pretty decent indeed.

Madhuri

04-30-2008, 07:19 AM

your probably right, its prrobably not the best relationship for me. but I need to feel loved, by somone tangiable. and I realy need to get over Andy, its not good for me to remain so attached to someone I dont get to see... And my bf does care, and he treats me pretty decent.

Are you sure you deserve a 'pretty decent' treatment? Do you think he desreves more for only 'pretty decent' treatment he shows you?

Boost up your confidence, and self-respect, you will realise that you should be treated well, not just decent.....

Most of the people here have the same opinion. It indicates that you need to re-think about the situation you are in (ofcourse its your call finally). It is better to confront the situation than being afraid to take any action for the fear that something big might happen, which you may not want to handle (like breaking up).

Its only the start that seems difficult. :)

I hope all works out fine for you.

Scheherazade

04-30-2008, 09:58 AM

R e m i n d e r

Unless you are able to offer your opinions without personal and/or inflammatory comments,

please refrain from taking in part in this discussion.

papayahed

04-30-2008, 08:56 PM

You don't understand what I meant. I meant that I agreed with you about this relationship which is abusive, but I meant that nobody should generalize about that and certainly not about age differences. Who are you to know about all the 15 years old and all the 25 years old? Your common sense is only your closed-minded opinion.

I guess we have different opinions of closed mindedness. I consider myself open minded but that stops when things become detrimental to anybody's health and well being. An adult / child relationship has a very great potential to be very damaging and there is absolutely no reason to throw that fact out the window because someone says the word love. It's like saying, "I realize it's midnight and there's two guys in ski masks but I'm gonna walk down this alley because I don't want to assume those guys are bad doers" why take that risk?

Sweets America

05-01-2008, 05:55 AM

I guess we have different opinions of closed mindedness. I consider myself open minded but that stops when things become detrimental to anybody's health and well being. An adult / child relationship has a very great potential to be very damaging and there is absolutely no reason to throw that fact out the window because someone says the word love. It's like saying, "I realize it's midnight and there's two guys in ski masks but I'm gonna walk down this alley because I don't want to assume those guys are bad doers" why take that risk?

Yes, but:
1) if you start to imagine all the risks there can be out there, then you stay in your house and you never get out.
2) Why do you generalize in calling all 15 year olds 'children'?? Each person is different, each person has a different level of maturity at 15. It depends on your personal experiences and what you have faced through life. I was certainly not a kid at 15.

novelsryou

05-01-2008, 06:22 AM

papayahed

05-01-2008, 07:54 AM

Yes, but:
1) if you start to imagine all the risks there can be out there, then you stay in your house and you never get out.

There are acceptable risks and unacceptable risks, everbody has a different thersholds. It's not closed minded to think about risk and make decisions based on what one considers acceptable.

2) Why do you generalize in calling all 15 year olds 'children'?? Each person is different, each person has a different level of maturity at 15. It depends on your personal experiences and what you have faced through life. I was certainly not a kid at 15.

ummm, is it a generalization if under US law 15 year olds are considered children with absolutely no legal rights?

There may be some mature 15 year olds, there's always exceptions. For those of us that remember 15 and remember 26 most, if not all can, probably agree that we were not the same person at 26 that we were at 15. There are huge fundamental changes that occur in one's teenage years.

Sweets America

05-01-2008, 09:03 AM

There are acceptable risks and unacceptable risks, everbody has a different thersholds. It's not closed minded to think about risk and make decisions based on what one considers acceptable.

Yes, it's just that what you consider acceptable is not necessarily what others consider acceptable. It's the same for me. What I want to say is that one cannot judge if other people's relationhips are acceptable or not, you cannot judge the risks since you are not in the person's shoes.

ummm, is it a generalization if under US law 15 year olds are considered children with absolutely no legal rights?

There may be some mature 15 year olds, there's always exceptions. For those of us that remember 15 and remember 26 most, if not all can, probably agree that we were not the same person at 26 that we were at 15. There are huge fundamental changes that occur in one's teenage years.

I think a US law saying that all 15 year olds should be considered as kids is actually a stupid generalization. This law is no excuse to base your reasoning on it. You can think by yourself, too.

I see you recognize that there are mature 15 year olds, but there's no reason to call them exceptions, as if the 'normal' thing was for a 15 years old to be immature.

Yes, at 23 I feel different from at 15, my personality is the same in depth but I have expanded my horizons. However, that absolutely does not mean that I was immature at 15, I was just different and I would have found it so stupid to let other people decide what was good or bad for me. I don't understand this tendency that people have to want to decide for other people. Just leave them alone and live your life. Only you can know if you are mature enough to take risks. Each human is different and this is why I will not judge people's relationships or choices because I am just not them.

papayahed

05-01-2008, 09:26 PM

Yes, it's just that what you consider acceptable is not necessarily what others consider acceptable. It's the same for me. What I want to say is that one cannot judge if other people's relationhips are acceptable or not, you cannot judge the risks since you are not in the person's shoes.

oh, I can judge however I like to call it having an opinion.

I can certainly judge risks, it's called learning from my experiences humans are not that different from each other that we can't learn from each others mistakes.

I think a US law saying that all 15 year olds should be considered as kids is actually a stupid generalization. This law is no excuse to base your reasoning on it. You can think by yourself, too.

It seems like we're are all suppossed to think like you or were wrong. I've already stated about 3 times why I think a 15 year old shouldn't be considered an adult. Because I happen to agree with a law doesn't mean I blindly follow or don't think.

I see you recognize that there are mature 15 year olds, but there's no reason to call them exceptions, as if the 'normal' thing was for a 15 years old to be immature.

It is a normal thing for a 15 year old to be immature. It's a fact that brain pathways are still being formed at that age and hormones are raging.

Yes, at 23 I feel different from at 15, my personality is the same in depth but I have expanded my horizons. However, that absolutely does not mean that I was immature at 15, I was just different and I would have found it so stupid to let other people decide what was good or bad for me.

Me too, only I can look back and realize that what I thought I knew and what I actually knew are vastly different.

I don't understand this tendency that people have to want to decide for other people. Just leave them alone and live your life. Only you can know if you are mature enough to take risks. Each human is different and this is why I will not judge people's relationships or choices because I am just not them.

That's the problem many children may think they are mature enough to handle certain things when they actually aren't.