Just asking . .

[Mona ..]

First , I want to say that I respect all the religions because my religion teach me to be an indulgent person.

But I want to ask you all " what do you know about Islam "

in order to correct the error or misunderstanding !!


Mona.. :wave:

[Poetess]

Just like you said, the first thing ever in Islam is to respect every single religion.

[Shield&Sword]

Well Mona, they dont know much. Even their own religion they dont know. Media is the new preacher.

[Erichtho]

Well Mona, they dont know much. Even their own religion they dont know. Media is the new preacher.

They? Who is that?

[mercy_mankind]

They? Who is that?


Well, i think that shield wanted to say "You" Non-Muslims people here .
But if you think that we're wrong tell us please what is right and answer the first question of Mona.
thank you,

[Nighteyes5678]

I know the basic 5 tenants of belief that they hold sacred, I know a lot of their history, and I know a few Muslims that help me understand their way of looking at things better whenever I have questions.

[Rav Maji]

I know that there is not one Islam, but millions. Each adherent mind builds its own version, just as with any other system of belief. Out of millions of versions geographic/political trends arise, some violent, some peaceful, some something else. Also, Islam, like other religions, serves as a cultural touchstone for its civilization. Any attempt to organize people is political in my view.

[mercy_mankind]

I know the basic 5 tenants of belief that they hold sacred, I know a lot of their history, and I know a few Muslims that help me understand their way of looking at things better whenever I have questions.

Very good that you ask Muslims to understand the religion , not to ask Media.
I think you want to say "The five pillars of Islam" . But you have to realize that everything , every command in Islam is considered to be sacred , not only the Five Pillars. And the Five Pillars are the BASIC.
Welcome Nighty.



I know that there is not one Islam, but millions. Each adherent mind builds its own version, just as with any other system of belief.

No , No ,No. It is not true at all , there is only one Islam , but there are billions of Muslims. All Muslims have one only BELIEF. Our creed is to believe in Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, the Day of Judgment, and Fate whether good or bad.

1-Belief in Allah's Lordship, Oneness.
2-The Quran and Sunnah.
3-Belief - Angel's Functions.
4-Allah's Books(Belief - Books Known - The Qur'an Is Protected from Change - Previous Scriptures Changed).
5-Messengers(Belief - The First and Last Messengers - The Best Messengers - Messengers are Human Beings - Islam The Universal and Final Message - Rightly Guided Caliphs ~ The Prophet's Companions ).
6-The Day of Judgment(Belief - The Resurrection - The Records and Scales - The Prophet's Intercession - The Prophet's Pool - The Straight Path - Paradise and Hell - What Happens in the Grave).
so there is only one ISLAM.

[pbmn]

Well, Shield, I think that is rather stereotypical of you. Not all of us are like that, some actually know quite a bit about other religions.

What I know comes partly from school, the rest from some friends of mine and my sisters. I know that Islam was founded in the seventh century (632 AD...?) and that is the start of the Islamic calendar. Muhammad was visited in a cave by the angel Gabriel and he went out to spread the word in his home town of Medina (if I remember correctly). He was persecuted for his beliefs, and he fled to Mecca (I may be getting the towns flipped around though, please correct me if I am wrong) where he brought up an army and conquered Medina. This is the meaning of the hajj, correct? All of this happened during the Sasanid Dynasty.

I am not too familiar, however, with all of your customs and beliefs, except for the Five Pillars, although Christians, Jews, and Muslims all believe in the same God, just a different prophet/Messiah. We all have sprouted from Abraham, but Christians and Jews come from Isaac, while Muslims come from Ishmael.

The major sects of Islam, Shi'ite and Sunnis were result of an Ummayad (or is it Abassid?) ruler, Ali, who was a relative of Muhammad, son of an uncle or something along those lines, and was overthrown by the Sunnis to let another person not related to Muhammad rule. The Shi'ites fight for Ali, and Sunnis fight against. That's all I know.

Again, please correct me if I am wrong in any place.

[Shield&Sword]

pbmn scuse me if you felt insulted because of my post, i didnt talk about all but most, and i say that because i live in europe and know how things work.

You got good info but allow me to correct some of them, and i will be happy to do it.
First the islamic calender started in day of migration of prophet Mohammad Peace be upon him, it will be 13 years from the beginning of spreading his teachings and 53 years after his birth. Thats why islamic calender is called the Hijry date which mean migration date. They didnt statr counting from the beginning of islam.
Mohammad pbuh was born in Mecca and treated so badly by his tribe for nearly 10 years, then he decided to got to Medina. Medina is a city which followed Mohammad and believed him and became islamic city. only you switched the cities.
Mecca decided to fight Muhammad pbuh so they faced each other (Mecca and Medina) in a place called Badr, this place is much more close to Medina than to Mecca, and it shows that the non muslims started the fight not muslims, muslims won and 7 years passed since migration Muhammad pbuh made a deal with mecca, but mecca betrayed muslims and killed some muslims, so Muhammad pbuh went to Mecca and took it and he forgave all Mecca for what they have done for him and other muslims, this was 8 year since migration.

About sunni and shia' issue i dont you will get my point. Sunni mean the one who follow sunna. Sunna is all the deeds and sayings of Prophet pbuh that teach us our religion and explain it. So sunni are the companions and all people who came after prophet, the people who follow the prophet.
After the death of the prophet pbuh upon him, Abu Bakr became the leader of Muslims (abu Bakr is the closest one to prophet pbuh), after Abu Bakr muslmis chose Omar, after Omar people chose Othman. In Othman period islam became a big nation, and some of the enemies decided that it will be suitable to pretend to be muslims and then they do their work, and so it was, Othman was killed. Then muslims chose Ali, at time of Ali same enemies made a big problem and divided muslims and Ali was killed by these enemies. So all the time muslims were sunni. But after Ali's death some people started to say that they are shia' (mean supporter) of died Ali may Allah be pleased with him. And so shia appeared. Thats why Sunni love love Ali and Othman and Omar and Abo Bakr and blame the enemies of islam who pretended to be muslims and killed Othman and Ali and made the separation of muslims. Aftar that the companion Moaoia took the leadership and all muslims were united again, only shia no. Hope its enough.
And will be so happy to respond any Q. you ask.
By the way musims believe that Moses is a prophet and Jesus is prophet and that Jesus was born without father but only mother by God's power, for a muslim Jesus is a miracle, not god or son of God, when God say to thing Be and it is.

[pbmn]

I knew I had the cities mixed up, it didn't sound right to me. And as for the Jesus/Moses thing, I did actually know that, and when I was talking, I noticed that I made it sound otherwise. I mean that Christians believe in Christ to be the Messiah, Jews are still waiting, and Muslims... what do they wait for/ believe in? Just curious.

[blazeofglory]

First , I want to say that I respect all the religions because my religion teach me to be an indulgent person.

But I want to ask you all " what do you know about Islam "

in order to correct the error or misunderstanding !!


Mona.. :wave:

Mona, I have read several of your postings, and everywhere I found you as a personality of humility and meekness. I am happy to share ideas with a person who is not disgustful of others' faith.

In fact personally I do not hold any religions in point of fact. I am totally respectfull of people of others' faith. I have read Islam and the Sufis are very close to my heart. I feel like crying and of course tears well up in my eyes when I read Sufi poems. All I find very soothing and moving.

I am sure that all religions if not backed by fundamentalism are good at the center. Yet the wryiest thing in every religion is when religon is handled and defined by fundamentalist.

Anyway, I respect Islam and still more Muslims.

[Shield&Sword]

Muslims are not waiting for any one. we believe that Mouhammad pbuh is the last prophet and no one will come after him.
For jews, they knew at time of Mouhammad pbuh that a messenger must come (before Mouhammad pbuh start to spread the message), and they thought (jews) that the prophet will be a jew, and they were saying to the arabs "when our prophet come we will control you all. But Mouhammad pbuh was arabic so the jews were so angry and refused the message of Mouhammad pbuh. Thats why in holy Quran its written that jews know Mouhammad pbuh more than their own children. A jew became Muslim at time of Mouhammad pbuh, and they asked him how do you know Mouhammad more than your son, he said i dont know if my son is really my son but i am sure that Muhammad is prophet because its written in our books (Torah and books of jews).
Even Jesus said that a prophet will come, he said you will know the true prophet from the false by his sayings, the true prophet will talk in my name (as i remember). And there is no prophet came after Jesus and said that Jesus is prophet born wihtout father from a pure lady but Mouhammad pbuh. And Jesus said the false prophets will die, all people who came after Jesus and claimed to be prophets were vanished, only Mouhammad remained since 1430 years with same message and with growing followers.

[Tournesol]

Mona, first let me greet you with that which Muslims greet one another:
Asalamu alaikum: peace be with you.

If you want information about orthodox Islam, and not of anybody's opinion or of the media's warped perception, then you can visit the following websites and read and find out for yourself:
1. youngmuslims.ca
2. islamicity.com

Also, there's a book called 'Towards Understanding Islam' by Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi, it's short, simple and concise. Trust me, you'll enjoy reading it!
Here's the address for the book: http://www.ymsite.com/books/tui/tui.html

I hope you enjoy your quest of getting to know Islam, as much as I did.
And remember, the very first word of the Quran to be revealed, was "Iqra" or "Read" [chapter 96: verse 1]
It sends a message: keep learning, keep seeking answers, to seek out the truth!

[Mona ..]

I'm sorry .. I was so busy last days :blush:

thank you all for sharing , I'm so happy


by the way , I want to say to Kareemah Ali that I'm Muslim and know everything about Islam

[NikolaiI]

Can you tell me about Muslim Mysticism? I read about Kabir in a book, and I'm interested in the subject. Thanks! (Especially interested of Kabir. Thanks!)

[blazeofglory]

Can you tell me about Muslim Mysticism? I read about Kabir in a book, and I'm interested in the subject. Thanks! (Especially interested of Kabir. Thanks!)

Kabir was in essence very close to Sufism or to put put correctly he was a Sufi. Originally Sufism was a blend of both Islam and Hinduism. Kabir was a great mystic and one can realize once one reads his devotional songs.

Nikolai, Kabir was a unique personality. I like all of his poems, for he rose above
all dogmas. He was at a time when there was religious fundamentalism creating a great division and Kabir was the one who was a meeting point between different faiths, indeed a conflunce.

[blazeofglory]

First , I want to say that I respect all the religions because my religion teach me to be an indulgent person.

But I want to ask you all " what do you know about Islam "

in order to correct the error or misunderstanding !!


Mona.. :wave:

Islam is a way of living, a course, a sacred one.

[blazeofglory]

I know that there is not one Islam, but millions. Each adherent mind builds its own version, just as with any other system of belief. Out of millions of versions geographic/political trends arise, some violent, some peaceful, some something else. Also, Islam, like other religions, serves as a cultural touchstone for its civilization. Any attempt to organize people is political in my view.

Yes I agree no religions should be politicized and religions should be private affairs and it should not dictate others. One religion should not overshadow another.

[Saladin]

Can you tell me about Muslim Mysticism? I read about Kabir in a book, and I'm interested in the subject. Thanks! (Especially interested of Kabir. Thanks!)

You should check out Rumi also if you havent already.