Women with culture!

[mercy_mankind]

After Lote-tree's thread about the normal Woman ,
I have a question to all both Men and Women
Will you accept to marry from (woman , man) less than you in culture, or non-cultured at all?
culture mean knowledge about a great number of the life fields.
culture as defined by the objects, images, artefacts, literature, music,politics, sciences, and so on

[Granny5]

After Lote-tree's thread about the normal Woman ,
I have a question to all both Men and Women
Will you accept to marry from (woman , man) less than you in culture, or non-cultured at all?

I'm not sure what you mean by culture. Is that like social class?

[manolia]

Do you mean educational level?

[Granny5]

I don't think social class means much to the people here in the U.S. I would think that educational level would be more important, or at least intelligence level. I would love my husband no matter what social class or educational level he was. I just might not have ever met him if our differences had been great.

[Lote-Tree]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]After Lote-tree's thread about the normal Woman ,


LOL :D my thread was to amuse and nothing more.

All my threads are about amusement ;-)

So don't take anything I do or say seriously :D

Regards
Lote

[mercy_mankind]

Do you mean educational level?
Yes , that is what i mean .


I don't think social class means much to the people here in the U.S. I would think that educational level would be more important, or at least intelligence level. I would love my husband no matter what social class or educational level he was. I just might not have ever met him if our differences had been great.

Yes Granny, the educational level is so important , but how could you love someone don't even understand you , there would be no proportionate life between you.


LOL :D my thread was to amuse and nothing more.

All my threads are about amusement ;-)

So don't take anything I do or say seriously :D

Regards
Lote
:)
I know , don't worry.

[Lost Arts]

I was "in love" with a very nice young man when I went away to college. His first letter to me revealed what I had never realized while we were dating - he was nearly illiterate. While I realized that I could teach him to have more literacy skills, it helped me also realize that our interests where too different for us to be compatible for the long term. He just wasn't interested in books, art, philosophy, etc. And I wasn't all that interested in sports. I still think of him fondly,:blush: but for a long time I had nightmares that I had gone ahead and married him. When I woke up and realized my college prof husband was beside me I sighed in relief.
So if by culture, you mean the level of interest in cultural things I think it is best to marry someone who you can share with on an equal footing.

[Lote-Tree]

:)
I know , don't worry.

Ah Bueno! Never lose the sight of that ;-) :D

Regards,
Lote.

[Bakiryu]

Nope.

I could never be married to someone who can't impress me. It'd be rather boring (unless he/she is extremely rich :p)

[Lote-Tree]

Nope.

I could never be married to someone who can't impress me.

Baki I did not realise that you could be quite vain! :D

What happened to "Love will conquer This Evil Empire" :D

[Chava]

Well, I happen to be in love with a very intelligent bloke. But i must admit that the crushes/relationships I have had to people at a different cultural level than my self have died REALLY quickly.
In the end you have to have interests you can share.. I think.

[manolia]

I don't think i would mind really. I don't think that education makes a person all that interesting, not necessarilly. There are sophisticated and refined people, with good manners and an excellent way of thinking who haven't received higher education. On the other hand i have met some educated people (engineers for example, since most of my acquaintances belong to that profession) who were completely dull, or unbearable who haven't interesting personalities or ideas, whose opinions of what is going on in the world are simply unacceptable and are almost foolish..See my point?

For me there is a difference between education and culture. A person can be educated but not cultured and vise versa.

[mercy_mankind]

- he was nearly illiterate. While I realized that I could teach him to have more literacy skills, it helped me also realize that our interests where too different for us to be compatible for the long term. He just wasn't interested in books, art, philosophy, etc.
So if by culture, you mean the level of interest in cultural things I think it is best to marry someone who you can share with on an equal footing.

So , you tried to change him , but he refused that
you tried that is because it is really a problem to find your self speaking and there is no one understand!


Ah Bueno! Never lose the sight of that ;-) :D

Regards,
Lote.
Okay , I won't , but Buena is well in spanish or , what?


Nope.

I could never be married to someone who can't impress me. It'd be rather boring (unless he/she is extremely rich :p)

:) :) :) :)
I think that money does not help , :)

[Lote-Tree]

For me there is a difference between education and culture. A person can be educated but not cultured and vise versa.

I am terribly uneducated and definately uncultured Manolia and I am not even an Engineer ;-(

[manolia]

I am terribly uneducated and definately uncultured Manolia and I am not even an Engineer ;-(

There is still hope for you lad ;) :
a) you can find an equally uneducated and uncultured lady
b) you can find true love
c) you can jump into the lake :p

[Chava]

There is still hope for you lad ;) :
a) you can find an equally uneducated and uncultured lady
b) you can find true love
c) you can jump into the lake :p

Haha... Aw man.... *goes away, giggling*

[Lote-Tree]

There is still hope for you lad ;) :
a) you can find an equally uneducated and uncultured lady


Like Jessica Alba :D



b) you can find true love


Yikes sounds like a disease :-(



c) you can jump into the lake :p

But I will float :D

[manolia]

Like Jessica Alba :D

Ermmm..i know the name but can't associate it with a face :D




Yikes sounds like a disease :-(

Yep for the faint-hearted. It is ok for NORMAL people :p :D




But I will float :D

Are ye a witch? :lol:

[mercy_mankind]

I don't think i would mind really. I don't think that education makes a person all that interesting, not necessarilly. There are sophisticated and refined people, with good manners and an excellent way of thinking who haven't received higher education. On the other hand i have met some educated people (engineers for example, since most of my acquaintances belong to that profession) who were completely dull, or unbearable who haven't interesting personalities or ideas, whose opinions of what is going on in the world are simply unacceptable and are almost foolish..See my point?

For me there is a difference between education and culture. A person can be educated but not cultured and vise versa.
Thank you , :thumbs_up
really that is exactly what i want to say , but i think that some of you link education with culture , but I want to say that i really just like you met doctors don't understand anything in life around them .
Thank you again .:)

[Lote-Tree]

Ermmm..i know the name but can't associate it with a face :D




Yep for the faint-hearted. It is ok for NORMAL people :p :D




Are ye a witch? :lol:


My my Manolia you are on top form this evening :D Bueno!
I did not believe you had it in you ;-)

[Pensive]

Will you accept to marry from (woman , man) less than you in culture, or non-cultured at all?

If I start looking for people as cultural (in the sense of having knowledge more than me as you say) I don't think I would have many (or rather any) choices. :p

Just kidding. :p

Don't know really, marriage is a complicated business, you don't know whom you fall over or if you never ever fall for even cultural ones, wouldn't like to be too sure about it.

[jon1jt]

After Lote-tree's thread about the normal Woman ,
I have a question to all both Men and Women
Will you accept to marry from (woman , man) less than you in culture, or non-cultured at all?
culture mean knowledge about a great number of the life fields.
culture as defined by the objects, images, artefacts, literature, music,politics, sciences, and so on



When you use this word "non-cultured" I take it to mean any person who has lived their entire life in a dark room. But even they might have something intriguing to say about the darkness that we can't. ;)

[muhsin]

mercy_mankind again? Gud!

[SleepyWitch]

Are ye a witch? :lol:

nope, but his head is made from wood :D

I don't think I could marry anyone who's less educated than me. as manolia and others have said, there are lots of educated but uncultured people.
and I'm sure there are lots of uneducated but intelligent people. I've met uneducated people who were a million times more intelligent than some of the educated people I know.
but on average, uneducated or so-called lower class men tend to be more macho, chauvinist and bossy than educated ones.
I prefer male bosses to female ones, but I won't be bossed around by my own husband, least of all if that husband was less educated and/or less intelligent than me :mad:

[Lote-Tree]

nope, but his head is made from wood :D

Do you realise how smutty that comment is!? :D

[mercy_mankind]

If I start looking for people as cultural (in the sense of having knowledge more than me as you say) I don't think I would have many (or rather any) choices. :p

Just kidding.

:thumbs_up
something of self confidence ,:)


When you use this word "non-cultured" I take it to mean any person who has lived their entire life in a dark room. But even they might have something intriguing to say about the darkness that we can't. ;)
wonderful image "darkness"
that is why i'm asking would accept to live in darkness , darkness in your mind .


mercy_mankind again? Gud!

Sorry , but what do you mean by again?
you want me to leave that forum , or any thing else?:)
Clarify ,please because I don't want to misunderstand you.



nope, but his head is made from wood :D

I don't think I could marry anyone who's less educated than me. as manolia and others have said, there are lots of educated but uncultured people.
and I'm sure there are lots of uneducated but intelligent people. I've met uneducated people who were a million times more intelligent than some of the educated people I know.

uneducated never be well cultured , it is impossible , but might be intelligent
so education considered to be an important item in culture ,
education is not to know writing and reading , because there is illiterate people and they are well cultured .

[manolia]

Thank you , :thumbs_up
really that is exactly what i want to say , but i think that some of you link education with culture , but I want to say that i really just like you met doctors don't understand anything in life around them .
Thank you again .:)

You are welcome :)


My my Manolia you are on top form this evening :D Bueno!
I did not believe you had it in you ;-)

hehe you didn't believe that i had what in me?

[Lote-Tree]

hehe you didn't believe that i had what in me?

Witticism you being an Civil Engineer and all that :D

[muhsin]

Sorry , but what do you mean by again?
you want me to leave that forum , or any thing else?:)
Clarify ,please because I don't want to misunderstand you.

If I wanna you to leave the forum why should I say *good*? I didn't know of the existence of the thread initially, then I saw it and was so surprised. I was under a misconception following the locking up of your other two threads that you leaved us.

[mercy_mankind]

If I wanna you to leave the forum why should I say *good*? I didn't know of the existence of the thread initially, then I saw it and was so surprised. I was under a misconception following the locking up of your other two threads that you leaved us.

Now don't worry I'll leave that forum , except you told me to leave it .:)
about my two threads , I know that there are here rules and all of us have to respect them , the first one I actually did not read the forum rules carefully that made me don't understand them ,
the second one I tried to respect everyone as I could , but there are some people ( don't want to mention them ) do with no respect to my religion .
So there is no reason to make me leave , at least Now!
I'm sorry for misunderstanding :)

[manolia]

Witticism you being an Civil Engineer and all that :D

:lol: ahh that's what you mean...engineers can be really funny as opposed to compute-heads who tend to joke using their lingo which noone understands but them ;) :p

[muhsin]

I'm sorry for misunderstanding :)

Oh...it happens always. No probs.

[DeathAngel]

Personally I don't think any culture is "lower" than another,
however just thinking of it seems to diffifult, I'll pass,
maybe, maybe not,
I won't jump the boat in a sec tho...

[Lote-Tree]

:lol: ahh that's what you mean...engineers can be really funny...


No way! If they were their buildings would just fall apart as soon as you put them up :D

[Bakiryu]

Baki I did not realise that you could be quite vain! :D

What happened to "Love will conquer This Evil Empire" :D

vain? No! Realistic.



:) :) :) :)
I think that money does not help , :)

As long as it gets my starving family out of Cuba, yes it does. :alien:

Culture, schulture.

[Lote-Tree]

vain? No! Realistic.

LOL :D

Realism has finally caught up with you then :D

But reality sucks you know that ;-)

[B-Mental]

Hmm, as one of the eligible bachelors of the Lit-net I think I'd better put in my two bits. And for what its worth to the gentlemen out there its worth a whole lot more than two bits! Can you DIG it?

A very wise man told me...When it comes to women... You must learn to find the beauty in everything. When you learn that everything is beautiful, well shucks, everything is beautiful!

Now lets apply this to women...There is no ugly, no fat, no dumb, crazy(normal or abnormal) and no disfigured woman in the world. Repeat that line to yourself....when you start to believe it, and can see the beauty in all women, you will find yourself the master of your world. {Yes, I'm talking to you Lote~Twig}

Unfortunately there is mean, self-centered, lazy, and just plain unhappy. I am looking for a woman for the rest of my life. She will not be vain, mean, self-centered, or unhappy, nor shall I. When I find her..when ... I don't give a rats A S S if she is poor, fat, ugly, disfigured, has different interests, any, or all of the above. If she is a woman I shall treat her with respect. And I will find the most beautiful woman to marry, have chldren, and be happy with until I cease to exist...and I got a whole lot of living to do yet!


and so it goes....Women, ALWAYS Women! Can i get an AMEN?!
Toodles, B

[aabbcc]

No - in sense that I could never marry a person who does not display a wide set of interests, some of which are congenial with mine ones; who does not have a broad view on the world which is impossible to have without background in good general knowledge; who is not even remotely interested in so-called "high culture" (I do expect from my lovers to take me to theatre, exhibitions, cinema with art movies rather than cinema with Hollywood-ish ones, etc) as I am accustomed to it and it makes an important part of my life which I would not desire to have severed from my partner; who is generally uninterested in the world or stuck within his little field (no matter how great expert he can be, I still prefer open-minded people with more interests); and who is not "cultured" in sense of having some classical manners with women and people in general - the manners of language, behaviour, etc; and who is not at least to some level well-read in terms of classical literature. So, in that sense, I do expect my lover/husband to display a certain level of culture, since it is important to me.

Yes - in sense that I would never go as far to judge people by the level of formal education they have got behind them (I know people with university degrees who are examples of "stuck within his field" and close-minded, unfortunately... :(), so I would never require of my lover to have finished some elite classical lycée and musical conservatory "just so we are on the same level", as I find that to be pure elitism, and concentrating on the form rather than the content - which I do not do.
I would also never require of him to share exclusively my interests, to be totally excited about the same things I am, etc.

So, some miniumum of culture is important to me, and my "minimum" is probably far greater than the minimums of many other people; but I would never go to extremes nor 'prescribe' what does somebody must have or have learnt to please me. :rolleyes: An intelligent, warm-hearted, well-mannered person with a basic 'cultural' background and willingness to participate in some aspects of culture in our life together is all I ask for.

[mercy_mankind]

Personally I don't think any culture is "lower" than another,

I don't understand , do you mean that all people are equal in their knowldge?
Thank you DeathAngel, :)



As long as it gets my starving family out of Cuba, yes it does. :alien:

That is MONEY , not the person who has it ,:)
there is a great difference Bakiryu ,



Hmm, as one of the eligible bachelors of the Lit-net I think I'd better put in my two bits. And for what its worth to the gentlemen out there its worth a whole lot more than two bits! Can you DIG it?

A very wise man told me...When it comes to women... You must learn to find the beauty in everything. When you learn that everything is beautiful, well shucks, everything is beautiful!

Now lets apply this to women...There is no ugly, no fat, no dumb, crazy(normal or abnormal) and no disfigured woman in the world. Repeat that line to yourself....when you start to believe it, and can see the beauty in all women, you will find yourself the master of your world. {Yes, I'm talking to you Lote~Twig}

Unfortunately there is mean, self-centered, lazy, and just plain unhappy. I am looking for a woman for the rest of my life. She will not be vain, mean, self-centered, or unhappy, nor shall I. When I find her..when ... I don't give a rats A S S if she is poor, fat, ugly, disfigured, has different interests, any, or all of the above. If she is a woman I shall treat her with respect. And I will find the most beautiful woman to marry, have chldren, and be happy with until I cease to exist...and I got a whole lot of living to do yet!


and so it goes....Women, ALWAYS Women! Can i get an AMEN?!
Toodles, B

What all is this?!
I think that you won't never find that person who is completely good , because there is no one on Earth complete ,
as you want a complete Woman , beautiful in every thing , you have to ask yourself a question , Are you completely good one?!
but any way , I hope that you find your dream , AMEN .:)




No - in sense that I could never marry a person who does not display a wide set of interests, some of which are congenial with mine ones;

So, some miniumum of culture is important to me, and my "minimum" is probably far greater than the minimums of many other people; but I would never go to extremes nor 'prescribe' what does somebody must have or have learnt to please me. :rolleyes: An intelligent, warm-hearted, well-mannered person with a basic 'cultural' background and willingness to participate in some aspects of culture in our life together is all I ask for.
You are saying very wonderful words , Thank you
you are right Anastasiha

[Logos]

After Lote-tree's thread about the normal Woman ,
I have a question to all both Men and Women
Will you accept to marry from (woman , man) less than you in culture, or non-cultured at all?
culture mean knowledge about a great number of the life fields.
culture as defined by the objects, images, artefacts, literature, music,politics, sciences, and so on First of all I don't believe in having to 'institutionalise' a relationship, ie: 'marry' -- *shock* --but the more experience I gain in matters love I have to say no, ultimately socio-political-economic-cultural status of my partner does not have a huge effect on my feelings towards them.

edited to add: But ja, sure, it would be nice if they were well-read, could tolerate going to theatre or ballet now and then :p appreciated fine food and wine, going to live music concerts etc., are semi-aware of what is going on in the world around them, hahaa, but that does not define *who* a person is to me.

[B-Mental]

First of all I don't believe in having to 'institutionalise' a relationship, ie: 'marry' -- *shock* --but the more experience I gain in matters love I have to say no, ultimately socio-political-economic-cultural status of my partner does not have a huge effect on my feelings towards them.

edited to add: But ja, sure, it would be nice if they were well-read, could tolerate going to theatre or ballet now and then :p appreciated fine food and wine, going to live music concerts etc., are semi-aware of what is going on in the world around them, hahaa, but that does not define *who* a person is to me.

Ditto, I meant to also say in my post above, that any woman that could find and participate in this community (i.e. Lit-net) is already on the cool list...not that I'm quite sure that they are beautiful. Bailey is a young woman, her mother(motherhubbard) is a mature woman, her grandmother (Granny5) is a WOMAN....they are all beautiful, thoughtful, kind women...and I respect that!

Mercy....
What all is this?!
I think that you won't never find that person who is completely good , because there is no one on Earth complete ,
as you want a complete Woman , beautiful in every thing , you have to ask yourself a question , Are you completely good one?!
but any way , I hope that you find your dream , AMEN .

When you think the way I do...they are all complete, and I know its cliche but if they aren't complete, and I am not complete, maybe just maybe they complete me. Does that make any sense. Peace, B

[Anza]

Hmm, as one of the eligible bachelors of the Lit-net I think I'd better put in my two bits. And for what its worth to the gentlemen out there its worth a whole lot more than two bits! Can you DIG it?

A very wise man told me...When it comes to women... You must learn to find the beauty in everything. When you learn that everything is beautiful, well shucks, everything is beautiful!

Now lets apply this to women...There is no ugly, no fat, no dumb, crazy(normal or abnormal) and no disfigured woman in the world. Repeat that line to yourself....when you start to believe it, and can see the beauty in all women, you will find yourself the master of your world. {Yes, I'm talking to you Lote~Twig}

Unfortunately there is mean, self-centered, lazy, and just plain unhappy. I am looking for a woman for the rest of my life. She will not be vain, mean, self-centered, or unhappy, nor shall I. When I find her..when ... I don't give a rats A S S if she is poor, fat, ugly, disfigured, has different interests, any, or all of the above. If she is a woman I shall treat her with respect. And I will find the most beautiful woman to marry, have chldren, and be happy with until I cease to exist...and I got a whole lot of living to do yet!


and so it goes....Women, ALWAYS Women! Can i get an AMEN?!
Toodles, B


Amen. That was very beautifully put.

[B-Mental]

Thanks Anza...I needed that. oh and welcome to the forums...I look forward to seeing you around. B

[Anza]

I've been here for a while...

[B-Mental]

I know, but we haven't interacted before.

[Anza]

okay. Hi! :D
Are you out of rant mode from earlier?

And on topic, I don't think "culture" can be used with superlatives. There is "good" but there is no "better," "best," "worst," "worse," or "bad"

[B-Mental]

umm, I'm never out of rant mode... and now back to your regularly scheduled lit~net thread = Women with Culture....aka~Women. Can't Live With Em', Can't Live Without Em'.

[Nightshade]

Hmm, as one of the eligible bachelors of the Lit-net I think I'd better put in my two bits. And for what its worth to the gentlemen out there its worth a whole lot more than two bits! Can you DIG it?

A very wise man told me...When it comes to women... You must learn to find the beauty in everything. When you learn that everything is beautiful, well shucks, everything is beautiful!

Now lets apply this to women...There is no ugly, no fat, no dumb, crazy(normal or abnormal) and no disfigured woman in the world. Repeat that line to yourself....when you start to believe it, and can see the beauty in all women, you will find yourself the master of your world. {Yes, I'm talking to you Lote~Twig}

Unfortunately there is mean, self-centered, lazy, and just plain unhappy. I am looking for a woman for the rest of my life. She will not be vain, mean, self-centered, or unhappy, nor shall I. When I find her..when ... I don't give a rats A S S if she is poor, fat, ugly, disfigured, has different interests, any, or all of the above. If she is a woman I shall treat her with respect. And I will find the most beautiful woman to marry, have chldren, and be happy with until I cease to exist...and I got a whole lot of living to do yet!


and so it goes....Women, ALWAYS Women! Can i get an AMEN?!
Toodles, B

Hum must be thick tonnight that whole post B whooosh right over my head.
Well lets see Im really not one to talk as I have yet to meet or even see anyone male or female that Im the least bit attracted to or have any inclantaiopn of marrying, or in any other way getting sucked into potentionally emotion draing reationship with... ta but no thanks.

Having said that if I ever did find someone then quite simply no I wouldnt ever marry anyone who came from a differnt cultural background to me, because while it works out between the couple inverible cross culture kids are screwed up one way or another, and I guess Im evidence of that enough myself, and Ive yet to meet a single one who isnt. But if there was a garentee that we could never ever have kids then sure why not marry someone who is differant. I think if you had someone just like you well then you could get bogged down in a cmfort zone and there would be nothing there to cpush you into evolving into a better person.

but yeah, like I said not the to talk really.

[Mortis Anarchy]

Since I enjoy a good, heavy, intelligent conversation with people, a guy I am interested in would have to be able to participate in it without boring me...not saying all of my conversations are heavy, because they are not, but still. I like being able to talk about art, books, politics etc. I enjoy them and most of my friends do as well.

Sometimes people that don't have a lot of formal education are very smart. I met this guy in Mexico that went to school until the sixth grade yet he was extremely intelligent and interesting. I think it would be difficult to be with someone that you couldn't talk to...ha, thats what I get after all of my rambling...

[Scheherazade]

Culture is over-rated. Viva la ignorance!

[mercy_mankind]

First of all I don't believe in having to 'institutionalise' a relationship, ie: 'marry' -- *shock* --but the more experience I gain in matters love I have to say no, ultimately socio-political-economic-cultural status of my partner does not have a huge effect on my feelings towards them.

edited to add: But ja, sure, it would be nice if they were well-read, could tolerate going to theatre or ballet now and then :p appreciated fine food and wine, going to live music concerts etc., are semi-aware of what is going on in the world around them, hahaa, but that does not define *who* a person is to me.


First of all , I was shocked while seeing you sharing here without locking the TOPIC, but I remembered that I'm not in the religious forum! :) :) :)
Just kidding , :)
In my opinion you might don't believe in "Marry" because there is no equivalence between you and your partner , I know Many people canceled their marriage because of the level of culture , the way of thinking , all of this are important ,
Thank you , :)

[Granny5]

Hmm, as one of the eligible bachelors of the Lit-net I think I'd better put in my two bits. And for what its worth to the gentlemen out there its worth a whole lot more than two bits! Can you DIG it?

A very wise man told me...When it comes to women... You must learn to find the beauty in everything. When you learn that everything is beautiful, well shucks, everything is beautiful!

Now lets apply this to women...There is no ugly, no fat, no dumb, crazy(normal or abnormal) and no disfigured woman in the world. Repeat that line to yourself....when you start to believe it, and can see the beauty in all women, you will find yourself the master of your world. {Yes, I'm talking to you Lote~Twig}

Unfortunately there is mean, self-centered, lazy, and just plain unhappy. I am looking for a woman for the rest of my life. She will not be vain, mean, self-centered, or unhappy, nor shall I. When I find her..when ... I don't give a rats A S S if she is poor, fat, ugly, disfigured, has different interests, any, or all of the above. If she is a woman I shall treat her with respect. And I will find the most beautiful woman to marry, have chldren, and be happy with until I cease to exist...and I got a whole lot of living to do yet!


and so it goes....Women, ALWAYS Women! Can i get an AMEN?!
Toodles, B

AMEM !
What you've said is just beautiful. I'm very impressed...wanna meet my daughter?? :lol: just kidding.

[Granny5]

You guys should realize that when you do meet the right person, it won't matter if they are fat and ugly and pick their nose in public, if they are the one they are the one. It hits ya so hard and fast you don't even think about all the other stuff. Just that you want to be with them. Some of us get lucky and meet them and they know how to behave.

[TheFifthElement]

Hmm, as one of the eligible bachelors of the Lit-net I think I'd better put in my two bits. And for what its worth to the gentlemen out there its worth a whole lot more than two bits! Can you DIG it?

A very wise man told me...When it comes to women... You must learn to find the beauty in everything. When you learn that everything is beautiful, well shucks, everything is beautiful!

Now lets apply this to women...There is no ugly, no fat, no dumb, crazy(normal or abnormal) and no disfigured woman in the world. Repeat that line to yourself....when you start to believe it, and can see the beauty in all women, you will find yourself the master of your world. {Yes, I'm talking to you Lote~Twig}

Unfortunately there is mean, self-centered, lazy, and just plain unhappy. I am looking for a woman for the rest of my life. She will not be vain, mean, self-centered, or unhappy, nor shall I. When I find her..when ... I don't give a rats A S S if she is poor, fat, ugly, disfigured, has different interests, any, or all of the above. If she is a woman I shall treat her with respect. And I will find the most beautiful woman to marry, have chldren, and be happy with until I cease to exist...and I got a whole lot of living to do yet!


and so it goes....Women, ALWAYS Women! Can i get an AMEN?!
Toodles, B

AMEN!

[Lote-Tree]

I don't give a rats A S S if she is poor, fat, ugly, disfigured, has different interests, any, or all of the above. If she is a woman I shall treat her with respect.


Yeah right!;-)

Thats why there are 160,000 visits to the Memmbers Photo Album Thread :D

Respect is EARNED and should not be just given.

[kilted exile]

Yeah right!;-)

Thats why there are 160,000 visits to the Memmbers Photo Album Thread :D

Respect is EARNED and should not be just given.

Your logic fails you for two reasons Lote:

1) It is an undeniable fact that those 160,000 visits to the Members Photo Album thread are all by people desperate to catch a glimpse of the glory that is kilted

2) There are a lot more views of the "How are you feeling today" thread - suggesting we are more interested in how people feel than how they look

[Lote-Tree]

Your logic fails you for two reasons Lote:

1) It is an undeniable fact that those 160,000 visits to the Members Photo Album thread are all by people desperate to catch a glimpse of the glory that is kilted


I have no doubt about that! Man wearing a Skirt is quite intriguing to a lot of women :D



2) There are a lot more views of the "How are you feeling today" thread - suggesting we are more interested in how people feel than how they look

Your comparison can't be made like this.

You need to compare two threads about pictures :D

And I bet members one comes extremely high on this :D

[kilted exile]

Your comparison can't be made like this.

You need to compare two threads about pictures :D

And I bet members one comes extremely high on this :D

'Course it can. To my reading the discussion is something like this:

B: "Looks are unimportant"
You: "you say that, but then why are there so many views of the photos posted"

So, unless I am again misunderstanding things (which to be fair happens quite a lot) your position is men care more about looks than anything else. Therefore bringing up the feelings thread is apt. I would use the pics of pets thread but we aren't talking to animals (except when people talk to me - oink):p

[mercy_mankind]

You guys should realize that when you do meet the right person, it won't matter if they are fat and ugly and pick their nose in public, if they are the one they are the one. It hits ya so hard and fast you don't even think about all the other stuff. Just that you want to be with them. Some of us get lucky and meet them and they know how to behave.

Granny , you are right .
I agree with you ,
Thanks ,



Yeah right!;-)

Thats why there are 160,000 visits to the Memmbers Photo Album Thread :D

Respect is EARNED and should not be just given.



Your logic fails you for two reasons Lote:

1) It is an undeniable fact that those 160,000 visits to the Members Photo Album thread are all by people desperate to catch a glimpse of the glory that is kilted

2) There are a lot more views of the "How are you feeling today" thread - suggesting we are more interested in how people feel than how they look

I'll tell you that lote-tree might be right , but also one of my relatives was searching for a good girl to marry , he was searching for beauty , culture , education , family level , etc.. ,
but number 1 is BEAUTY .
he got married , but his wife has not much beauty as he wanted , but if you asked him about her , he will tell you that she is the most beautiful woman in the world .
check out Granny's words again . then you will realize that it is something differ from person to another , but I still think that the way of thinking and culture (for cultured people) is very Important.
Thank you, :)

[blazeofglory]

I don't think social class means much to the people here in the U.S. I would think that educational level would be more important, or at least intelligence level. I would love my husband no matter what social class or educational level he was. I just might not have ever met him if our differences had been great.

You have ofcourse better understanding of class and indeed we must transcend limits of racism and social gaps. Yet culture means more than this, the quality of life and kind of equanimity with which one can live and behave with all.

[blazeofglory]

I
So if by culture, you mean the level of interest in cultural things I think it is best to marry someone who you can share with on an equal footing.

This is something I am opposed to and do not subscribe to your views at all. Indeed there are elements of truth in what you said. Of course equal footings play a vital role in choosing partners in life. This is what most do traditionally. Yet as far as love is concerned the love you have said of it transcend limits of the equal footing you have set up.

[blazeofglory]

Well, I happen to be in love with a very intelligent bloke. But i must admit that the crushes/relationships I have had to people at a different cultural level than my self have died REALLY quickly.
In the end you have to have interests you can share.. I think.

No, deep love will not die so quickly the way you said.

[blazeofglory]

I am terribly uneducated and definately uncultured Manolia and I am not even an Engineer ;-(

So what? I am moved by the way you present yourself so interestingly and beautifully.

[aeroport]

No - in sense that I could never marry a person who does not display a wide set of interests, some of which are congenial with mine ones; who does not have a broad view on the world which is impossible to have without background in good general knowledge; who is not even remotely interested in so-called "high culture" (I do expect from my lovers to take me to theatre, exhibitions, cinema with art movies rather than cinema with Hollywood-ish ones, etc) as I am accustomed to it and it makes an important part of my life which I would not desire to have severed from my partner; who is generally uninterested in the world or stuck within his little field (no matter how great expert he can be, I still prefer open-minded people with more interests); and who is not "cultured" in sense of having some classical manners with women and people in general - the manners of language, behaviour, etc; and who is not at least to some level well-read in terms of classical literature. So, in that sense, I do expect my lover/husband to display a certain level of culture, since it is important to me.

Yes - in sense that I would never go as far to judge people by the level of formal education they have got behind them (I know people with university degrees who are examples of "stuck within his field" and close-minded, unfortunately... :(), so I would never require of my lover to have finished some elite classical lycée and musical conservatory "just so we are on the same level", as I find that to be pure elitism, and concentrating on the form rather than the content - which I do not do.
I would also never require of him to share exclusively my interests, to be totally excited about the same things I am, etc.

So, some miniumum of culture is important to me, and my "minimum" is probably far greater than the minimums of many other people; but I would never go to extremes nor 'prescribe' what does somebody must have or have learnt to please me. :rolleyes: An intelligent, warm-hearted, well-mannered person with a basic 'cultural' background and willingness to participate in some aspects of culture in our life together is all I ask for.

*smiles bashfully* Hi, I'm Jamesian...
j/k

Seriously, though, apply all that to a woman, and I need say nothing more.