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the mooring
09-26-2004, 07:24 PM
How I came to Islam
By Yusuf Islam
January 1st, 1985

All I have to say is all what you know already, to confirm what you already know, the message of the Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) as given by God - the Religion of Truth. As human beings we are given a consciousness and a duty that has placed us at the top of creation. Man is created to be God's deputy on earth, and it is important to realize the obligation to rid ourselves of all illusions and to make our lives a preparation for the next life. Anybody who misses this chance is not likely to be given another, to be brought back again and again, because it says in Qur'an Majeed that when man is brought to account, he will say, "O Lord, send us back and give us another chance." The Lord will say, "If I send you back you will do the same." I was brought up in the modern world of all the luxury and the high life of show business. I was born in a Christian home, but we know that every child is born in his original nature - it is only his parents that turn him to this or that religion. I was given this religion (Christianity) and thought this way. I was taught that God exists, but there was no direct contact with God, so we had to make contact with Him through Jesus - he was in fact the door to God. This was more or less accepted by me, but I did not swallow it all. I looked at some of the statues of Jesus; they were just stones with no life. And when they said that God is three, I was puzzled even more but could not argue. I more or less believed it, because I had to have respect for the faith of my parents. Gradually I became alienated from this religious upbringing. I started making music. I wanted to be a big star. All those things I saw in the films and on the media took hold of me, and perhaps I thought this was my God, the goal of making money. I had an uncle who had a beautiful car. "Well," I said, "he has it made. He has a lot of money." The people around me influenced me to think that this was it; this world was their God. I decided then that this was the life for me; to make a lot of money, have a 'great life.' Now my examples were the pop stars. I started making songs, but deep down I had a feeling for humanity, a feeling that if I became rich I would help the needy. (It says in the Qur'an, we make a promise, but when we make something, we want to hold onto it and become greedy.) So what happened was that I became very famous. I was still a teenager, my name and photo were splashed in all the media. They made me larger than life, so I wanted to live larger than life and the only way to do that was to be intoxicated (with liquor and drugs).




IN HOSPITAL


After a year of financial success and 'high' living, I became very ill, contracted TB and had to be hospitalized. It was then that I started to think: What was to happen to me? Was I just a body, and my goal in life was merely to satisfy this body? I realized now that this calamity was a blessing given to me by Allah, a chance to open my eyes - "Why am I here? Why am I in bed?" - and I started looking for some of the answers. At that time there was great interest in the Eastern mysticism. I began reading, and the first thing I began to become aware of was death, and that the soul moves on; it does not stop. I felt I was taking the road to bliss and high accomplishment. I started meditating and even became a vegetarian. I now believed in 'peace and flower power,' and this was the general trend. But what I did believe in particular was that I was not just a body. This awareness came to me at the hospital. One day when I was walking and I was caught in the rain, I began running to the shelter and then I realized, 'Wait a minute, my body is getting wet, my body is telling me I am getting wet.' This made me think of a saying that the body is like a donkey, and it has to be trained where it has to go. Otherwise, the donkey will lead you where it wants to go. Then I realized I had a will, a God-given gift: follow the will of God. I was fascinated by the new terminology I was learning in the Eastern religion. By now I was fed up with Christianity. I started making music again and this time I started reflecting my own thoughts. I remember the lyric of one of my songs. It goes like this: "I wish I knew, I wish I knew what makes the Heaven, what makes the Hell. Do I get to know You in my bed or some dusty cell while others reach the big hotel?" and I knew I was on the Path. I also wrote another song, "The Way to Find God Out." I became even more famous in the world of music. I really had a difficult time because I was getting rich and famous, and at the same time, I was sincerely searching for the Truth. Then I came to a stage where I decided that Buddhism is all right and noble, but I was not ready to leave the world. I was too attached to the world and was not prepared to become a monk and to isolate myself from society. I tried Zen and Ching, numerology, tarot cards and astrology. I tried to look back into the Bible and could not find anything. At this time I did not know anything about Islam, and then, what I regarded as a miracle occurred. My brother had visited the mosque in Jerusalem and was greatly impressed that while on the one hand it throbbed with life (unlike the churches and synagogues which were empty), on the other hand, an atmosphere of peace and tranquillity prevailed.





THE QUR'AN


When he came to London he brought back a translation of the Qur'an, which he gave to me. He did not become a Muslim, but he felt something in this religion, and thought I might find something in it also. And when I received the book, a guidance that would explain everything to me - who I was; what was the purpose of life; what was the reality and what would be the reality; and where I came from - I realized that this was the true religion; religion not in the sense the West understands it, not the type for only your old age. In the West, whoever wishes to embrace a religion and make it his only way of life is deemed a fanatic. I was not a fanatic, I was at first confused between the body and the soul. Then I realized that the body and soul are not apart and you don't have to go to the mountain to be religious. We must follow the will of God. Then we can rise higher than the angels. The first thing I wanted to do now was to be a Muslim. I realized that everything belongs to God, that slumber does not overtake Him. He created everything. At this point I began to lose the pride in me, because hereto I had thought the reason I was here was because of my own greatness. But I realized that I did not create myself, and the whole purpose of my being here was to submit to the teaching that has been perfected by the religion we know as Al-Islam. At this point I started discovering my faith. I felt I was a Muslim. On reading the Qur'an, I now realized that all the Prophets sent by God brought the same message. Why then were the Jews and Christians different? I know now how the Jews did not accept Jesus as the Messiah and that they had changed His Word. Even the Christians misunderstand God's Word and called Jesus the son of God. Everything made so much sense. This is the beauty of the Qur'an; it asks you to reflect and reason, and not to worship the sun or moon but the One Who has created everything. The Qur'an asks man to reflect upon the sun and moon and God's creation in general. Do you realize how different the sun is from the moon? They are at varying distances from the earth, yet appear the same size to us; at times one seems to overlap the other. Even when many of the astronauts go to space, they see the insignificant size of the earth and vastness of space. They become very religious, because they have seen the Signs of Allah. When I read the Qur'an further, it talked about prayer, kindness and charity. I was not a Muslim yet, but I felt that the only answer for me was the Qur'an, and God had sent it to me, and I kept it a secret. But the Qur'an also speaks on different levels. I began to understand it on another level, where the Qur'an says, "Those who believe do not take disbelievers for friends and the believers are brothers." Thus at this point I wished to meet my Muslim brothers.

CONVERSION


Then I decided to journey to Jerusalem (as my brother had done). At Jerusalem, I went to the mosque and sat down. A man asked me what I wanted. I told him I was a Muslim. He asked what was my name. I told him, "Stevens." He was confused. I then joined the prayer, though not so successfully. Back in London, I met a sister called Nafisa. I told her I wanted to embrace Islam and she directed me to the New Regent Mosque. This was in 1977, about one and a half years after I received the Qur'an. Now I realized that I must get rid of my pride, get rid of Iblis, and face one direction. So on a Friday, after Jumma' I went to the Imam and declared my faith (the Kalima) at this hands. You have before you someone who had achieved fame and fortune. But guidance was something that eluded me, no matter how hard I tried, until I was shown the Qur'an. Now I realize I can get in direct contact with God, unlike Christianity or any other religion. As one Hindu lady told me, "You don't understand the Hindus. We believe in one God; we use these objects (idols) to merely concentrate." What she was saying was that in order to reach God, one has to create associates, that are idols for the purpose. But Islam removes all these barriers. The only thing that moves the believers from the disbelievers is the salat. This is the process of purification.

Finally I wish to say that everything I do is for the pleasure of Allah and pray that you gain some inspirations from my experiences. Furthermore, I would like to stress that I did not come into contact with any Muslim before I embraced Islam. I read the Qur'an first and realized that no person is perfect. Islam is perfect, and if we imitate the conduct of the Holy Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) we will be successful. May Allah give us guidance to follow the path of the ummah of Muhammad (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam). Ameen!
Yusuf Islam (Bio) (formerly Cat Stevens (Bio))
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this artical is written by yuosef islam

but iwant ask ....
do you have picture about him ...i dont

have.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D :D

subterranean
09-26-2004, 07:33 PM
now i think someone should post a reply about famous person who converted from islam religion to christianity..this would make the thread interesting :rolleyes:

the mooring
09-28-2004, 05:52 PM
conversion from religoin to another is normal thing and it is up to God who gets some people out of darkness to light or gets them out of light to darkness

but finally the truth must appeares which is supported by sciene ,values,and logical thoughts....>>>ISLAM



any way....i appreciate your visitation to my page
thanks alot..

subterranean
09-28-2004, 08:54 PM
conversion from religoin to another is normal thing and it is up to God who gets some people out of darkness to light or gets them out of light to darkness

but finally the truth must appeares which is supported by sciene ,values,and logical thoughts....>>>ISLAM


which God you refering to..?
And what you said about the conversion thing, which is normal to happen, make this thread bit useless.

the mooring
09-29-2004, 08:37 PM
hi ....again ..i think you intersted in my page
well , if you want to know the really God...
just look at the beautiful white moon which rise in adark night... who makes them in this beautiful scene??....He is God that i talk about...
look at the small birds which fly in sky... who teaches them to fly??? are you???
ofcourse no ..because HE is God who teaches them to do that
look at the coloures of the fish in the deep seas... who makes them in such shap and this harmony of these colours...are there any artists drow these coloures ????ofcourse no...because God that i talk about he makes that..
and look at the sun ...the mountains ...the other plants.... who keeps them from fall on us??... do you see any cable keep them from fall?? so ther is some one who keeps them from fall...and he is God that i talk about
who teaches the bees to produes the hony.and makes it very sweet???..do they have any schoole or any college to learn this complecated job??
ofcourse no... because the one who creates them teaches them to do that ...and this one is the GOD that i talk about.
who teaches the snake to use its poison to poison the victim then eat it??? and how it can live with mouth full of its poison????
ther is some one orders the poison to hurt the victims and not hurt the snake because it is a mean to its life ....and this one is God that i talke about..... if you turns your face any were you will find that every thing is aproof of the existence of God...
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dont warry about the thread ,i have said that there are many people worship many gods ....
some of them worship the cows!!!!
some of them worship the mouse!!!!
some of them worship idols!!!!
some of them worship the sun....the fire...and the prophets(pease be upon them)!!!
becuase they learn this from thier parents and their ancestors ....they cease their minds from thinking or searching about the right God and right religoin which i have said before it is supported by science,values,and logical thoughts....
and there some people worship the one who creates all this univers and minkinds, the sky ,the earth ,the mountains ,the people ,and the animals ....he creates every thing and asks us to believe in Him , to do good deeds , and avoid the bad deeds inorder to inter Paradise

He is the only God,He Has no wife no daughter and no son,there is no one like Him ...

so, give your mind the chance to search about the truth....
regards

by the way......
do you have any picture about Yousef Islam ....i really dont have :D :D :)

take my best regards


which God you refering to..?
And what you said about the conversion thing, which is normal to happen, make this thread bit useless.

if i say that suiside is anormal thing in America. ..do i mean that it is aright thing?????? ofcourse no...

so if there something is normal it doesnt mean that it is aright thing....like many people who play and enter a religoin then get out from it then they return to their first religioin and suddanly leave it and choice athird religoin


but put in your mind and dont forget that i said also that the really religion is the religoin which is supported by the science ,values, and logical thoughts...which means Islam....

dont forget the picture :D :D

Green Utopia
10-03-2004, 02:22 AM
Salam mooring really wonderful choice
thanks sister..May Allah give you a better reward

the mooring
10-03-2004, 06:08 PM
thanks my sister...

s h i n y
10-05-2004, 07:16 AM
hello sisters,
thanx mooring for this topic..

here is the picture you want:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/685000/images/_685613_yusuf_islam300.jpg

the mooring
10-05-2004, 04:53 PM
hello sisters,
thanx mooring for this topic..

here is the picture you want:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/685000/images/_685613_yusuf_islam300.jpg


thank you very much my dear...
i really search about his picture :) :) :)
thanks :wave: , thanks :wave: ,thanks :wave:

rocksea
10-05-2004, 11:07 PM
I have not been here for long and when i came back i
see how the forums are turned into!!

Do you know, there are around 4000 religions/faith groups in
this world?? If each of those started writing about their
"only god and religion" in the world.. :D it would really
be funny!!

Most of the religions teach love and tolerance and
respect to other human beings and fellow creatures.
If you want to follow a religion, why don't you
bring these characteristics to your life and spread
love which is something understandable and digestable
by every creature rather than spreading religion
and your own beliefs which may clash with others
and thus spread intolerance and fights?? see how much
agression it must've brought to many members in this
forum??

Everyone has a religion of his own.
It is better to leave others to their own choice.
Nature would decide what is best.

Green Utopia
10-06-2004, 02:12 AM
Allah-The Almighty- would decide what is best.....He who leads us to the straight path..


dear rocksea welcome back...

not at all so funny to share our believes

Best Regards,
Green Utopia

rocksea
10-06-2004, 07:47 AM
ya it is nice to share our beliefs but there are so many things in a religion which can be studied and shared with, other than linking always it with the attribute 'belief'.

and when there are so many other religions and faithgroups in this world, saying 'my religion is the best, only my religion saves the world' is not sharing belief. it is something like forcing beliefs??

s h i n y
10-06-2004, 12:30 PM
hi every1,,

rocksea ..
welcome back.
you've mentioned that some people say:
'....only my religion saves the world'
of course every1 will say that, but let's forget about the religion's influence on the world
and talk about its influence on the individuals;
each person, senseful one, would think deeply and ask himself (who created me? it can't by chance,and I shouldn't be created by several Gods and if so, whom am I doing to obay? )...
in this case, he'll look for reality and others' experiences to find the truth.

the question is....
How can a person like CatStevens, who enjoys his great fame among poeple of his religion, leave that religion and accept to lose that popularity??
For sure, he wanted to fulfill his spiritualistic needs with truth and only truth.
he looked seriously for it.. and he found it.

that's what the article is about. { ain't that right mooring?! }

the mooring
10-07-2004, 06:14 PM
I have not been here for long and when i came back i
see how the forums are turned into!!

into areligious conversation but with the respect for all believes...and i do so...am i right??? :confused:
Do you know, there are around 4000 religions/faith groups in
this world?? If each of those started writing about their
"only god and religion" in the world.. :D it would really
be funny!!

but finally the really religoin must wins and the truth must appears

Most of the religions teach love and tolerance and
respect to other human beings and fellow creatures.
If you want to follow a religion, why don't you
bring these characteristics to your life and spread
love which is something understandable and digestable
by every creature rather than spreading religion
and your own beliefs which may clash with others
and thus spread intolerance and fights?? see how much
agression it must've brought to many members in this
forum??
and i spread the love and the tolerance because this is the main job for my religion that i learn it from islam
after believe in one God (ALLAH),
and the one who dont do that ,he will be refused from isalm and muslims befor any one else
Everyone has a religion of his own.
It is better to leave others to their own choice.
Nature would decide what is best.
no...it is better to leave your mind choose your life, your religion , then your hereafter

look my dear the thing that your mind doesnt accept it,my religion also doesnt accept it
and if you think that i hurt any one by my speech ....tell me ...
and i apologize to him
regards

the mooring
10-07-2004, 06:26 PM
shiny....utopia....
thanks alot

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by the way , can both of you visit my poem that i have written in apersonal poetry
it is called((a long tale of an orphan’tears))
i wait you there
regaaaaaaaaards

BSturdy
10-18-2004, 06:14 PM
Hey Mooring & Shiny

I am a fan of Cat Stevens' (now Yusuf Islam) music and I found this post very interesting. But I have to state that your personal agenda is transparent - your thread has not even a veiled invitation to discussion. Is there something you want to discuss with the forum or are you just presenting a fait accompli?

Whilst Cat Stevens was a brilliant songwriter, and clearly a thoughtfull and intelligent man, the story you have posted has several inconsistencies. I think that people should find it disreputable and suspicious when politicians or religions start wheeling out their celebrity supporters.

My questions to you: -

1. Are you aware of the typical mental state of TB (tuberculosis) sufferers?

2. "Then I came to a stage where I decided that Buddhism is all right and noble, but I was not ready to leave the world. I was too attached to the world and was not prepared to become a monk and to isolate myself from society."

Conversion to Buddism (a very easy going religion/philosophy) does not require becoming a monk or isolating yourself from society.

Does this imply that Cat did not properly investigate any of the religions he discusses?

It seems to me, with respect, that Cat , after getting himself frazzled by the high-life, was looking for a bit of help staying on the straight and narrow. Not unusual for a sensitive young music star. Having contracted tuberculosis (I sympathise greatly with him as he must have been having a very tough time both to get the disease and then to deal with the symptoms) he would have been mentally very open to being indoctrinated.

I know that Yusuf Islam works at a school and is highly connected in the muslim world - I once met the Sheikh of Jeddah (a very intelligent and charming man) and he had been meeting Yusuf Islam. I sincerely hope that Yusuf Islam is teaching tolerance and understanding between religions as this is the only rational way forward for world.

Again with respect, it would be heartening to see more evidence of muslims showing that they do not agree to the extremists. This and more religious tolerance everywhere would be of great benefit to the world.

the mooring
10-23-2004, 11:25 PM
hi Bsturdy ....sorry for my late coming because these days i have exams....so excuse me i will answer you shortly...

it is awrong reason to think that yousef islam convert to islam because he suffered from TB becuase he didnt know any thing about islam except after his remedy ,when he want to Britin and received the holy quraan from his brother....but when he was suffered from TB he red many books about many religions but he didnt converted to any one of them....

and there are many people convert islam most of them are scientists,doctors,and philosophers ......do they suffer from TB also????

the really reasons that make millions of people convert islam are the justice they find it in , and the virtues they seek for .islam is the right way toward the happieness in life and after life.
so it is not astrang thing when we see such sensetive person with pure soul and kind heart convert to islam becuase islam identify with his character.islam is supported by the virtues ,the logical thoughts,and the science.
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also i wish to end this misunderstanding and i wish also that the end of these extremists is very close becuase they hurt us befor any one else :rage: :rage:
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iwish i pass the poetry exam tomorrow... :lol:

greetings :wave: :wave: :wave:

BSturdy
11-05-2004, 05:21 AM
Hi Mooring

You seem to be a very reasonable and sweet person and I appreciate very much that you have not jumped at my post in a blind rage. Sincerely good luck in your exams: you have a very good grasp of language so I am sure you can do well.

I stand by my post - it doesn't take a very intelligent person to get what I am implying. There is clearly no insult meant to Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens) or Islam itself.

Maybe you need to do some homework into the effects of TB.

Infact maybe you should be doing some revision for your exams rather than trying to find converts to your beliefs in places where people are trying to read things other than just the koran! I also really have work to do so I am being very hypocritical - sorry.

In the words of Anthony Burgess from The Malay Trilogy (approx.) "Islam is a derivatory, simple, observance based religion". Before you fly off the handle maybe you might think why such an undoubtedly highly intelligent (and learned and erudite) man thought this. I am not personally wanting to criticise Islam or muslims personally. That is a quote from a book (from memory). Oh..and he wrote it before he was diagnosed with a brain tumour and given a year to live (1957)- but he went on to live until 1993 and wrote 50 more books!

What I will criticise is your sticking propoganda up here and criticising other people's beliefs which you cannot understand (i.e. how much do you actually know about them?).

How do you know Islam is the way if you do not know about all other religions/philosophies. Because you accept that you are told so?

Doh! I was supposed to look at the poetry forum and I got distracted by this miserable sideshow.

://://://The future for the world must be tolerance and acceptance://://://

Scheherazade
11-05-2004, 05:49 AM
I think the important thing is that we should all agree that religions are nothing but set of doctrins aiming to make this world a better place to live in by teaching people to better themselves. The unfortunate point is that people interpret religious teachings as they see fit, in a way to suit their own needs and agendas.
In core, all religions advice similar things, maybe in different words.

We don't like our egg done in the same way. Some of us don't like eggs at all. Yet, this doesn't change the fact that egg is good for us, eaten in moderation. Even if you don't like yours sunnyside up or scrambled, why carry a grudge towrds someone because they happen to?

I know it is very simplified but sometimes simplification is the only way forward. There is always the risk of losing our way if we complicate things more than they deserve.

Do I get a penny for my thoughts? :p

BSturdy
11-07-2004, 07:21 PM
Very well said Scherehezade I agree with much of what you say. Except that encouraging blind acceptance of doctrines is a particularly bad trait of Islam (a verry young, though derivatory religion) - therefore muslims can be easily exploited by power mungers. Christianity/Judaism has had longer to be debated/adapted (but also of course has been/is used for political purposes)

Have just started - Catcher in the Rye, quite good so far

A bit tired, must go and hopefully speak to you in the Literature forum soon!

Take care Mooring and all here - Please try not to take this as an insult - I am trying to encourage love and acceptance of difference. Vive la difference! :) :) :)

Jester
11-07-2004, 09:24 PM
On a side note about preaching.... it really bothers me when people preachoutright as I can guess from almoste very agnostic or athiest that I have met, two groups that get preached to alot. But really my veiw is the each relgion provides a method for each person to find clarity in the world around them whether its a truth or not there are many versions of the truth and one of them could be islam just like it could be hinduism or buddhism but the point is is that each religions allows its adherants to make that choice of which path they want to follow and converts simply find a better path more suited to themselves with a different religion.

Personally its the fanatics that get all the press and the bad rep for religions :flare: :rage:

Scheherazade
11-08-2004, 06:44 PM
Very well said Scherehezade I agree with much of what you say. Except that encouraging blind acceptance of doctrines is a particularly bad trait of Islam (a verry young, though derivatory religion) - therefore muslims can be easily exploited by power mungers. Christianity/Judaism has had longer to be debated/adapted (but also of course has been/is used for political purposes)



BSturdy,

I think "encouraging blind acceptance of doctrins", as words suggest by themselves, is not and cannot be a healthy attitude and I don't think it would be wise to attribute such a characteristic to a whole religion and its followers. Every religion and every social group have extremists within themselves and we should not judge and brand religions based on those extremist. Afterall, this would be a blind prejudice.

All religions exploit. Correction: Few followers of all religions try to exploit. The history is full of examples of this (Since I do not want to start a religious discussion as to who did what and when, I will not go into detail. Are we allowed to do that?) Singling out one religion does not seem plausible.

On a lighter note, I am hoping to read 'Catcher in the Rye' soon too. How do you like it?

BSturdy
11-09-2004, 04:04 AM
Enough preaching to the converted (sic.)

Scheherazade (if I use your name again I will have to use the abbreviation Sche. as I have trouble spelling it easily) I am really enjoying old Catcher - I especially like the period slang (or maybe some of it is the author's own, I don't know).

In ways I find the protagonist very sympathetic. It is certainly a brilliant (swell) characterisation. I'd like to know if his brother, D.B., is fictional.

I often seem to think that I am glimpsing some allegorical level in books at the moment (phoney) - I won't let on about what I think this is, in this case, because I haven't finished it, I may be wrong (crap), and I don't want to ruin it for you.

On the other hand a friend of mine saw me reading it at the weekend and said something like: "Oh, that bloke just had problems with his dad" - I think this was literally a throw-away comment (lousy crumby moron)

miss tenderness
10-17-2005, 07:10 PM
thanks for ur post May Allah Reward u:)

bhekti
10-19-2005, 12:03 PM
How can one expect the person who himself asked to be forgiven be one's example in conducting one's life? Even he asked for mercy and commanded his followers to always do the same for him.

Nightshade
10-19-2005, 12:24 PM
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

bhekti
10-19-2005, 12:39 PM
Your smile is the most beautiful, nightshade!

Nightshade
10-19-2005, 03:45 PM
thankyou but its only there because I decide to stay out of a potential fight:nod:

bhekti
10-19-2005, 04:06 PM
I'll stay out...

subterranean
10-19-2005, 07:22 PM
In regards to the topic of this thread, personally, I don't see why some else's coversion should influence other person's belief. As I think spiritual issue is a matter of subjective truth, thus it shouldn't be an issue afterall..

lover of jesus
10-21-2005, 08:14 PM
why some else's coversion should influence other person's belief. As I think spiritual issue is a matter of subjective truth, thus it shouldn't be an issue afterall..

i think to identify the religion itself...
catstevens is a sensitive person so that he chooses Islam because he finds the delicacy and kindness he searches ...

BUT...not all people like him ,some of theme will not accept the religion or the thoughts till they see some scientific signs or any thing convince their intelligent minds....

so what does this kindness of islam will do with these people ???....
they will nt believe till their minds not(feelings) be convinced..

and as i always say God is a merciful ,He doesn’t leave those kind of people in this state ,He sends many scientific miracles in Quraan (just) to convince them .... so that many of seculars not(singers) have converted islam
it is amazing!!


May Allah guide us to good deeds and good sayings

:wave:

Amra
03-16-2006, 09:57 AM
Does anyone know the website of Yusuf Estes? He was a priest who converted to Islam 10 years ago, and supposedly has a lot of lectures about it, but I cannot find his website anywhere. :confused:

miss tenderness
03-20-2006, 03:20 PM
ASALAM ALYKUM sis Amra

i'm happy u r askin about sheikh Yusuf Estes site

it's www.islamtomorrow.com

i'm regular there so let me see u in the chatroom...

do not change ur nickname :)

myself
03-23-2006, 03:53 PM
salam every1, im new here so this forum is really cool to start with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

miss tenderness
03-25-2006, 04:59 PM
welcom here:)

Theshizznigg
03-27-2006, 02:59 PM
I seem to remember a rather funny book I saw the other day, in the books store under the religious section.

It was two brothers, both a Dr. and a Proffesor, who had used to be Moslem Clerics, but had seen through the fallacies of their own religion and converted to Christianity.

Still, I must say that you Mohammehdians have some interesting ideals.
I would state however that while you talk about your great conversions, such and such.
That you leave out such comments, hinting that Islam is the only proper state of religion.

It may well be in your mind, and I don't doubt that you think so, but others are entitled to a little bit of openmindedness.
I think that Christ and Christianity is the only true religion, but I remain open minded upon it.

Amra
03-27-2006, 11:02 PM
I must say that you Mohammehdians have some interesting ideals

WE are muslims. Just because you worship your Prophet doesn't mean that everybody else worships their Prophets. Is that really so hard to understand? :confused: