What is your favorite quote? And why?

[cafolini]

I think, since I can remember lucidely, I was always a Buddha (the one who no longer needs to reincarnate, live or die, being now in Nirvana). But because I don't think miracles are involved in being a Buddha, I choose to be a warrior for democracy in order to preserve the possibility of being a Buddha. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

The following is a well-meant, very ironic quote from Richard Gere. The venerables cannot be hurt by it. Neither do I. Somehow we are called to protect Nepal.

Maybe the Dalai Lama is the only person who is totally honest, and even with him, he's skillful not to hurt anybody. He's skillful. ~ Richard Gere

[bennyptnk]

I like this two quotes:
- If the theory is different from the parctice, let's change the practice! Enstein.
- If you thing you can or you cant, you're both right - Henry Ford.

[cafolini]

Einstein's position is one of a retard. Nothing to do with Henry, who's idea includes Einstein's retardation. Henry doesn't come from theory. Einstein was so utterly stupid that when they offered him the presidency of Israel, he said: Sorry, but politics is everchanging, while an equation is eternal. And he didn't accept on those grounds. He continue wasting his days trying to find the Unified Field Theory which, any scientist knew upfront as an idiocy.
Henry was talking about belief and knew that you can believe whatever you please and act upon it, while Einstein was so retarded that he actually thought his was much more than a belief.

[cafolini]

Apart from Meade, who was key to the northern triumph at Gettysburg, the other great general was Sherman. He understood beyond the shadow of a doubt that civilians are the fuel of progress when inclined in that direction. So he destroyed all the southerners he could. Close to the end, Atlanta was no more. Bob Lee was not that great, but to duty. He would have never been a confederate had he not been from Virginia. Against Meade, although the latter's episode was shortlived, Lee gambled his soldiers and had to run away. He might have had bravery with character, but not enough to be a great general, no matter how famous he might have been. He was a good husband and father. That much I give him. It might be enough for what he truly loved apart from duty. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

Grant without Sherman would have been just a drunkard. He was mentally competent but, like Lee, not the great general that went down in history. He might as well have been Rudolph the red nose ... He was not who caused Lincoln to win a second overhelming term. Sherman was. ~ C A Cafolini

Human rights is the soul of our foreign policy, because human rights is the very soul of our sense of nationhood. ~ Jimmy Carter

America did not invent human rights. In a very real sense human rights invented America. ~ Jimmy Carter

[xtianfriborg13]

"Death ends a life, not a relationship." Mitch Albom, Tuesdays With Morrie

I love this quote because it speaks the truth about death. It's also very positive, for me. :)

[cafolini]

A person who has not admitted the inevitability of his/her death is a coward who cannot defend his/her or anyone's rights, including the ones of those he/she imagines to love. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

"I did not come here to make men better. I came to make better use of their weakness." Hitler

"We do not expect to be loved by too many." Himmler

"Never before in history so many owed so much to so few." Churchill

[ShazzyBear]

"Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes." - Oscar Wilde
I like this quote because it makes me smile, and makes Oscar Wilde seem like a very down to Earth person.

[Goodman Brown]

This is crazy for me to post but I have to! I heard this from a friend of mine say twenty years my senior and I don't know if he made it up or he heard it fom someone else but it goes like this,,(If I would have known I was going to live this long I would've taken better care of myself),,,, the ironic part of it is that it's starting to apply to me!!!!!!

[bulfinch]

"I did not come here to make men better. I came to make better use of their weakness." Hitler

"We do not expect to be loved by too many." Himmler

"Never before in history so many owed so much to so few." Churchill

how could you like a Hitler quote? Or do you just do that to provoke?

[miyako73]

I pedaled as fast as I could as if I were escaping from longing, from innocence, from her. Time has passed, and I've loved many women. And as they've held me close and asked if I will remember them, I've said, "Yes, I will remember you." But the only one I've never forgotten is the one who never asked... Malena.

--Renato Amoroso, the narrator in the film "Malena"

The most beautiful narrated lines in a film for me.

[Pierre Menard]

how could you like a Hitler quote? Or do you just do that to provoke?


Does a person being a monster necessarily mean they can never come out with something quotable? Or worthwile even? I'm not saying that particular Hitler quote did much for me, but I'll admit to have been impressed by certain quotes from monsters all throughout history.

[cafolini]

how could you like a Hitler quote? Or do you just do that to provoke?

I don't care how you take the three quotes. They are there for you to look at them in whichever way you like.

[cafolini]

There are no great men. There are great challenges ordinary men must take forced by circumstances. ~ General Halsey, while fooling Yamamoto in Guadalcanal.

Any other outcome would have allowed the Japanese to enter Australia. Halsey was also one of MacArthur's favorites in the Philipines.

[cafolini]

Our purpose is not to conquer Leningrad and Moscow, but to completely destroy the enemy and plow the land for the expansion of the Aryan race. ~ Goebbels

Later, he and his wife kill their children and commit suicide.

[cafolini]

Of all the quotes I posted here the following two by Richard C Vogel, first lieutanant, US Army, are some of the ones I consider most meaningful. These statements were made to his grandson Kyle while Vogel explained the meaning of a trunk of souvenirs he kept after the war.

"There is one [true] difference between men and the other animals. They can kill at a [long] distance."

"Once you accept to put on the military uniform, it makes no difference what your post or the risk is. What makes the difference is how you do it and for what."

[aliengirl]

"Oh, the comfort - the inexpressible comfort of feeling safe with a person - having neither to weigh thoughts nor measure words, but pouring them all right out, just as they are, chaff and grain together; certain that a faithful hand will take and sift them, keep what is worth keeping, and then with the breath of kindness blow the rest away." ~Dinah Craik, A Life for a Life

It may not be impossible but it's certainly very rare to find such a person.

[cafolini]

"Oh, the comfort - the inexpressible comfort of feeling safe with a person - having neither to weigh thoughts nor measure words, but pouring them all right out, just as they are, chaff and grain together; certain that a faithful hand will take and sift them, keep what is worth keeping, and then with the breath of kindness blow the rest away." ~Dinah Craik, A Life for a Life

It may not be impossible but it's certainly very rare to find such a person.

Indeed. Can't walk on egg shells without breaking them. Merry Christmas.

[bulfinch]

Our purpose is not to conquer Leningrad and Moscow, but to completely destroy the enemy and plow the land for the expansion of the Aryan race. ~ Goebbels

Later, he and his wife kill their children and commit suicide.

you see to delite in posting borderline offensive quotes. There is no value to be gainedfrom your Goebbels quote and I don't see why it would be anyones favourite.

[cafolini]

you see to delite in posting borderline offensive quotes. There is no value to be gainedfrom your Goebbels quote and I don't see why it would be anyones favourite.

Thanks for posting it again. You are right, I mean, dead right.

[bulfinch]

Thanks for posting it again. You are right, I mean, dead right.

no need to get passive aggressive.

[Hawg Horse]

Ninety-nine percent of the world's lovers are not with their first choice. That's what makes the jukebox play. Willie Nelson, Country Singer

[cafolini]

Meeting F D Roosevelt was like uncorking your first bottle of champagne. ~ Winston Churchill during a visit to FDR's grave in 1946.

[cafolini]

People should be born dead. Then they will be honest. ~ Mark Twain

[cafolini]

When you go to heaven, leave your dog out. Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would go out and the dog would go in. ~ Mark Twain

[cafolini]

A the peak of his success, Mark Twain realized the importance of Huckleberry Finn:

I am not an American. I am THE American. ~ Mark Twain

[cafolini]

If the marvels of the world took into account actions, one most majestic one would have to be the link of the railroad to California through the Sierra Nevada. It was done with explosives, advancing 8 inches per day. ~ C A Cafolini

[2X2E5]

“I agree that two times two makes four is an excellent thing; but if we are dispensing praise, then two times two makes five is sometimes a most charming little thing as well.” - Fyodor Dostoevsky

[cafolini]

It is unfortunate that some people, as soon as they realize how easy it is to pull a trigger, become criminal instead of suicidal. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

Live every day as if it were your last because one it will be. ~ Breaker Morant

[cafolini]

Some people place the idea upsidedown when they say, for example, "that is hard to believe." In reality, to believe is easy. The difficulty is in knowing. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

Of all the mental strategies I must place valor as the priority for a person. It is in its firmness that we might enter old age with dignity. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

It was a saving grace that Albert Speer was such an ignorant asso when it came to calculate strength of materials. The allies were able to destroy the large network of underground tunnels he designed for the manufacturing of the V2 rocket and later, chemical gases, destined to destroy London. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

You don't have to be a genius or a visionary or even a college graduate to be successful. You just need a framework and a dream. ~ Michael Dell

[jayat]

Hi,
I'm a quotes lover, above all when they challenge my mind. I heard that from a dead Catalan writer, Josep Pla, when he was interviwed in the Serrano's Spanish program (decades ago) and said quoting Paul Valéry "the deepest thing in man is his skin". Again, against the idealism. Maybe...

[jayat]

...and luck and you must work nearly too much to achieve your goal....But always depends from what you want, what is your ambition (Be a secondary school teacher or the next Bill Gates).

[cafolini]

Don't be too quick to call a spade a spade. Check the compromising effects upon yourself. When the Russian males raised their middle fingers and endorsed them on Margaret Thatcher for returning the kingdom to the meritorious psychology of Alfred the Great, and called her "the unlady of the west," they thought they knew what they were talking about, and so, The Iron Lady acquired the Russian fantasy, flew all over Asia always with the middle finger up the Russian assos. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

When the Jsapanese performed the infamous attack on Pearl Harbor, Winston Churchill said: I rejoyced with the attack on Pearl Harbor, not because of the tragedy or the insane undertaking, but because it told Americans that they had been at war already for several years, and they had remained indifferent to the realities that were inevitable.

Churchill was correct and we Americans had a very rude awakening to the facts.

[cafolini]

When Yamamoto was ordered to attack Pearl Harbor, he warned. But few paid attention.

I know Americans. I studied in USA. They are a very noble people. I don't know that I can hold then for more than a year. ~ Yamamoto

No officer of high rank paid attention to him. He was correct.

[cafolini]

I'm not a prophet, but I always thought it was natural for dictatorships to fall. I remember in 1989, two months before the fall of the Berlin Wall, had you said it was going to happen no one would have believed you. The system seemed powerful and unbreakable. Suddenly overnight it blew away like dust. ~ Salman Rushdie

[cafolini]

In the first six to twelve months of a war with the United States and Great Britain I will run wild and win victory upon victory. But then, if the war continues after that, I have no expectation of success.~ Isoroku Yamamoto

[cafolini]

I feel it is impossible not to be amazed by those who want total nuclear disarmament. Most amazing are the dictatorships of the Middle East. They think that they could scare the American people with propaganda about the end of the world. The point they don’t get is that we Americans would absolutely prefer the end of the world to the loss of the American dream or the globalization of democracy. I would give my life if it led to the fall of one of those dictatorships. My death would not even be worth a dime compared to the elimination of one of those dictatorships. I have seldom contemplated higher stupidity than the one shown by the leaders of those dictatorships. Give me liberty or give me death! ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

What is needed is a move beyond tradition, nothing less than a reform movement to bring the core concepts of Islam into the modern age, a Muslim Reformation to combat not only the jihadist ideologues but also the dusty, stifling seminaries of the traditionalists, throwing open the windows to let in much-needed fresh air. (...) It is high time, for starters, that Muslims were able to study the revelation of their religion as an event inside history, not supernaturally above it. (...) Broad-mindedness is related to tolerance; open-mindedness is the sibling of peace. ~ Salman Rushdie

[aliengirl]

"It is from cowardice and not from want of enlightenment that we do not read in our own hearts." -- Stendhal

[cafolini]

"It is from cowardice and not from want of enlightenment that we do not read in our own hearts." -- Stendhal

Indeed!
People who have been made to suffer by certain things cannot be reminded of them without a horror which paralyses every other pleasure, even that to be found in reading a story. ~ Stendhal

[cafolini]

Pulling together is the aim of despotism and tyranny. Free men pull in all kinds of directions. ~ -Terry Pratchett

[cafolini]

The Roman Catholic Church is dissolving day after day. Once upon a time they use to kill a useless pope and place him in a sealed lead coffin. Eventually they began to poison him slowly as he aged and the cardinalia could no longer use it. Today they began to allow him to resign. The latest retirement home is Castel Gandolfo, in Lazio, a few miles from Rome. Why couldn't they send the cardinalia there and have a massive retirement party. They could beautify everybody and thus promote the globalization of democracy before fascism is finished for keeps. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

Some sick people are often so thirsty for freedom that they might try to enslave others in order to then play liberators. Some fill their children with insanity in order to later try to cure them. ~ C A Cafolini

[Bleeding Pawn]

People collect souvenirs or art which is or has been a part a someone else memories and moments of time gone by , but they do not value and cherish the life of their loved ones who exist and in their presence and they know it.

[cafolini]

People collect souvenirs or art which is or has been a part a someone else memories and moments of time gone by , but they do not value and cherish the life of their loved ones who exist and in their presence and they know it.

Some people. Not in general. Percentagewise just a few.

[Bleeding Pawn]

Some people. Not in general. Percentagewise just a few.

If we consider the earth`s population to be around almost 7 billion , even that small percentage will have dire effect on the social system of a community.

[cafolini]

A perfect man/women comes out of a perfect failure a learned man/woman. Also, a perfect man/woman could come out of a perfect failure not learning anything but hiding in the perfect idiocy of imperfection. Failures are perfect ways to learn to chose perfectly better. A perfect idiot is the man/woman who considers him/herself a complete, ultimate failure out of one perfect failure. ~ C A Cafolini

[free]

“When someone loves you, the way they say your name is different. You know that your name is safe in their mouth.”
― Jess C. Scott, The Intern

[cafolini]

It is impossible to understand why some people think of Napoleon as a great military genius. He was a consummated idiot. The nations he won over in Europe were poor ones, outnumbered in almost every way. Then, against the lessons of history, of which he apparently knew diddly, he invaded Russia. And to show his lack of military ability, in Waterloo, he confronts a master, Wellington, with the strategy of an idiot. Napoleon a great military genius? He used to tell Josephine to bathe in the stable with the horses' excrement to please him when they met in bed. ~ C A Cafolini

[Bleeding Pawn]

It is impossible to understand why some people think of Napoleon as a great military genius. He was a consummated idiot. The nations he won over in Europe were poor ones, outnumbered in almost every way. Then, against the lessons of history, of which he apparently knew diddly, he invaded Russia. And to show his lack of military ability, in Waterloo, he confronts a master, Wellington, with the strategy of an idiot. Napoleon a great military genius? He used to tell Josephine to bathe in the stable with the horses' excrement to please him when they met in bed. ~ C A Cafolini

It is easy to judge past personalities on what they did, but it seems critical to base ones decision on WHY they did so.

[cafolini]

WHY is neither here nor there. HOW, WHEN, WHAT and WHERE is what accounts. ~ C A Cafolini

[Janine]

Too many to list. I love quotes!

[cafolini]

It's a very long way before anything gets to be philosophical. It is so long that chances are men will know too much to get there. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

The difference between philosophy and religion is that the former can only spring from a belief of knowing enough while the latter springs from acknowlegment of ignorance when it comes to the will of God. ~ C A Cafolini

[free]

“Any fool can know. The point is to understand.”
― Albert Einstein

[cafolini]

I'll be philosophical the day I manage, for example, to ingest an ounce of arsenic without dying. ~ C A Cafolini

[Adolescent09]

I'll be philosophical the day I manage, for example, to ingest an ounce of arsenic without dying. ~ C A Cafolini

Your favorite quotes are the ones you make up...? Well at least you don't lack self-confidence.

Anywho I have 3 personal favorites: "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." - JFK

"Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me again... shame on... shame on... If you're fooled once you can't get fooled again" - George W. Bush

"Eric Cartman, you are handsome and not even remotely fat." - Jimmy's mother in the episode 'Fishstick' from SouthPark

[Bleeding Pawn]

Anywho I have 3 personal favorites: "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." - JFK

Patriotic quote isnt it? Well these words are not originally of JFK himself but he was quoting a quote from one of the works of Khalil Gibran, (Lebanese origin) which appeared more than 35 years before he used it in his inaugural speech. We cannot blame JFK for plagiarism because he never ever in his life ever mentioned that this quote was his own.

The original quote goes as:

“Are you a politician asking what your country can do for you or a zealous one asking what you can do for your country?” Khalil Gibran.

[Bleeding Pawn]

WHY is neither here nor there. HOW, WHEN, WHAT and WHERE is what accounts. ~ C A Cafolini

In the past whenever humanity underwent an incident of catastrophic nature, the only question engraved on the minds of the victims was ,WHY? Why they had to suffer too much from man himself? They did not have time for trivial queries like HOW WHEN WHAT and WHERE but surely these questions must be/are valuable for historians, whose concerns are not for the destruction of the emotional fraternity of Man by Man himself, so that is the most probable reason why WHY was not accounted for anywhere.


Simply put " The question WHY constitutes the roots of all wisdom"

[Bleeding Pawn]

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[cafolini]

Patriotic quote isnt it? Well these words are not originally of JFK himself but he was quoting a quote from one of the works of Khalil Gibran, (Lebanese origin) which appeared more than 35 years before he used it in his inaugural speech. We cannot blame JFK for plagiarism because he never ever in his life ever mentioned that this quote was his own.

The original quote goes as:

“Are you a politician asking what your country can do for you or a zealous one asking what you can do for your country?” Khalil Gibran.

Gibran's quote is okay, but JFK's was his own and didn't look at all like Gibran's. The actual speech by JFK was in general, to the public, and it is displayed in the upper front of the headquarters in Fort Gordon, Georgia: Do not ask what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. It is very different than what Gibran said to politicians, where Gibran's applies very well. JFK's is a most Catholic BS to the people. If you don't ask what your country can do for you, what do you want government for? These and many other issues were probably the assassination cause. For it is precisely the Catholic representative in govrerment that protestants couldn't stand, nor do I, personally. Get your facts straight before you endorse JFK stuff on a sensical man like Gibran. If you want to endorse something probable on JFK and his protectorate, endorse the death of Marilyn and say with her "happy birthday mr ****sident." Good day!!

[Bleeding Pawn]

To effectively communicate, we must realize that we are all different in the way we perceive the world and use this understanding as a guide to our communication with others.

Anthony Robbins

[Bleeding Pawn]

The lessons this life has planted in my heart : pertain more to caring than crops, more to Golden Rule than gold, more to the proper choice than to the popular choice.

Kirby Larson,

[Adolescent09]

“The person, be it gentleman or lady, who has not pleasure in a good novel, must be intolerably stupid." Jane Austen

This has to be one of the stupidest things anyone has ever said, and cements my dislike for Austen even more. I'm going to be torn apart for saying this but I don't care...Pride and Prejudice is FAR from a decent novel let alone a good one, the characters are all shallow and one dimensional and the fact that she is praised more than Dickens and Thackeray is appalling, considering that they wrote great books and she wishes she was a real author. She was just another absolutely despicable feminist.

[qimissung]

In your opinion, you mean. :D

[Adolescent09]

In your opinion, you mean. :D

Why yes, qimi! :)

[Shaman_Raman]

"At least I ain't led no hum-drum life." Forrest Gump

[cafolini]

To give from your self what you know is not enough. You shall also, in complete transparency, whether you like it or not, give from yourself what you don't know. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

Sheer Playfulness and Deadly Seriousness are my closest friends. ~ Philip Roth

[cafolini]

It's okay for some people to see s**t and think it's chocolate. But then, after tasting it, they are not much concerned with having eaten it. They are more concerned about how they could have stepped on it had they not tasted it. ~ C A Cafolini.

[Bleeding Pawn]

It's okay for some people to see s**t and think it's chocolate. But then, after tasting it, they are not much concerned with having eaten it. They are more concerned about how they could have stepped on it had they not tasted it. ~ C A Cafolini.

You dont have to dive into a pile of s**t to know really know if it is indeed a pile of s**t.. you can smell it from a distance.- Unknown

[cafolini]

You dont have to dive into a pile of s**t to know really know if it is indeed a pile of s**t.. you can smell it from a distance.- EA

My, to what length people can go.

Some people. Percentagewise very few. They refuse to smell so that some goons can feed them without trouble. Then, of course, comes the redemption: at least not stepping on it.

[Adolescent09]

"In summertime, I'm like: forget the roof! In winter, I'm like: where's the roof!?!" - 2 Chainz (It's Nothing)

"Double, Double Toil and Trouble..." - Shakespeare (Macbeth)

"Even the geniuses ask us questions. Be grateful for blessings. Don't let the change keep your essence, the power is in the people and politics we address. Always do your best. Don't let the pressure make you panic and when you get stranded and things don't go the way you planned it... dreaming of riches, in a position of making a difference...Politicians and Hypocrites? They don't wanna listen!" 2pac (Me Against the World)

"Et tu, Brute?" - Shakespeare (Julius Caesar)

[cafolini]

It is true that we are weak and sick and ugly and quarrelsome but if that is all we ever were, we would millenniums ago have disappeared from the face of the earth. ~ John Steimbeck

[The Atheist]

Presently, my sig line. Reason for liking it is self-explanatory.

[cacian]

''to the seed its wheat and to the wheat the leap the weather may sweep to pastures for sweets''
''never say nowhere you're always somewhere''

[cafolini]

Cacian is improving? LOL Noooooo!!

[Adolescent09]

"Can you not say the 'n-word' or 'mf' word?"

"N***a, you mean mother****er?" - Eddie Griffin

"Who's gonna crush my grapes, make my wine, hm?? That wasn't nuttin but one man with a stick! Y'all had sticks! Y'all need to be wearin' them little skirts y'all got on." - Eddie Griffin

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself" - FDR

[cafolini]

Mother****er is norepresentative because the actual sount is mofar. But that's ok.
FDR got that one from Herbert Hoover and made it part of the New Deal. He beat Hoover with Hoover's own thoughts. But that was also ok and needed.

[cafolini]

Some people use "nothing" and "no thing" as if they meant the same. But nothing is the absence of any thing, while no thing refers to the presence of any thing. ~ C A Cafolini

[Adolescent09]

'I feel very uncomfortable watching this. How old are these...*pause*...things?'

'I believe they are 13, sir.'

'Good? God!' - Brock's Dub of Jenna Rose video


'Are we allowed to slap these parents? Perhaps with a phone book? Or a FISH? - Same video

[cacian]

''poetry says read it and reading says see it that just about sums it up writing says''
''sitting down clenches and standing up wrenches a bit of both and it's moving satiety is groovy''

[aliengirl]

"I felt it shelter to speak to you." ~ Emily Dickinson

I like this because of it's overwhelming affirmation of faith in another person. How lucky it would be to find such a person!

[cacian]

"I felt it shelter to speak to you." ~ Emily Dickinson

I like this because of it's overwhelming affirmation of faith in another person. How lucky it would be to find such a person!

Hi aliengirl what does actually the saying mean?

[Adolescent09]

Einstein's position is one of a retard. Nothing to do with Henry, who's idea includes Einstein's retardation. Henry doesn't come from theory. Einstein was so utterly stupid that when they offered him the presidency of Israel, he said: Sorry, but politics is everchanging, while an equation is eternal. And he didn't accept on those grounds. He continue wasting his days trying to find the Unified Field Theory which, any scientist knew upfront as an idiocy.
Henry was talking about belief and knew that you can believe whatever you please and act upon it, while Einstein was so retarded that he actually thought his was much more than a belief.

Ironically, the only wisdom that shines brightly through your diatribe of lunacy is the Einstein 'quote'= Politics is everchanging, while an equation is eternal. Not to blatantly accuse you of anti-Semitism, but the vast majority of critics who discredit Einstein are Neo-Nazis and people who think Calculus is the hardest subject math has to offer.

Oh... you were just kidding!? Allow me to guffaw in private.

[cafolini]

Ironically, the only wisdom that shines brightly through your diatribe of lunacy is the Einstein 'quote'= Politics is everchanging, while an equation is eternal. Not to blatantly accuse you of anti-Semitism, but the vast majority of critics who discredit Einstein are Neo-Nazis and people who think Calculus is the hardest subject math has to offer.

Oh... you were just kidding!? Allow me to guffaw in private.

What did you stay away from the forum for five years for? To turn five years more ignorant. Who gave you this impossible job? You, underground? ROFLMAO!

[Adolescent09]

What did you stay away from the forum for five years for? To turn five years more ignorant. Who gave you this impossible job? You, underground? ROFLMAO!

Oh, cafolini, please do continue to "ROFLMAO" (return this useless acronym to the elementary school child, from whom you borrowed it, K? Thanks :)) at the gibberish you write that is completely devoid of thought, humor and insight. You "diss" one of the greatest physicists of the 20th century by making a comment based purely on spite, supported by absolutely NO argument. Oddly enough, the only thing remotely humorous about you is that you quote yourself! You, the oh so opinionated God of the world wide web of LitNet, please be merciful when smiting my young buns with your wiener of hardboiled facts! :)

Will your highness permit me to humbly quote a small product of your ingenious mind?:


To turn five years more ignorant

(1) I'm assuming you were aiming for self-parody since you use the word, 'ignorant', which is easily the most blatantly misused word in the English language (no exception here). Thus, the reason I rarely, if ever, use it.

(2) The first textbook definition for the word, "ignorant", is to lack knowledge or awareness in general. We all generally lack knowledge and awareness about many things that are general so to use this definition is analogous to accusing someone of being alive. So yes, I am alive, and doing quite well, thank-you for asking :D.

(3) The second textbook definition for "ignorant" follows directly from the first: "Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular". This one is subject to the periodically correct use of literary grammarians and the rampant misuse of nearly everyone else. Contrary to popular belief, it does not mean stupid, that which suggests a lack of knowledge about everything. It means: "to not know something". We can logically link the broad definition in (2) with the the specific definition in (1). In other words, if a block of wood is comprised of splinters, then the block is as much a composition of splinters as it is a piece of wood. Notice how all three entities are not literally the same, but come together to form the same thing. To avoid deviating from the topic thread, allow me to quote Joe Pesci:


It makes sense, don't it?

You are saying that I am alive, again! Gee, didn't I tell you? I am alive, and doing fine! Thank-you so much for your incessant concern! :D

(4) You deem me 'ignorant' through a group of words that are not a sentence.

(5)...

(6)...

...

(198,283,489). Read (1) again.

[aliengirl]

Hi aliengirl what does actually the saying mean?

Hi cacian,
The sentence I quoted is from Emily Dickinson's letter to her friend. She wants to say that it feels very good to speak to him because it offers her protection and warmth like a shelter. It is admirable that she had such faith in him.

[cafolini]

The importance of the witch trials at Salem had nothing to do with the young witches who were having a revengeful ball with their idiotic accussed and knew full well what they were doing. The importance was the aftermath of the situation. That was the first time in American history when the beauty of the American future was pronounced: a person is innocent until PROVEN guilty. This was the beginning of the change from the idiotic Britiish law practice to the fruitful American practice. And it stuck and flourished little by little. C A Cafolini

[Adolescent09]

"Time is all the currency in the world that you will ever need" - Nieve (Life's so Hard underground Hip Hop track)

[Adolescent09]

"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" - George W. Bush

[Bleeding Pawn]

“The person, be it gentleman or lady, who has not pleasure in a good novel, must be intolerably stupid." Jane Austen


It seems Jane Austen was being modest, what she actually wanted to say/meant by being stupid are the ones who haven`t read any works by her.


"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" - George W. Bush

Surprised something relating to coexistence come from Mr. junior Bush. When did he say that and why? was he say fishing literally or metaphorically?Did he mean fishes as in fishing or was he trying to say regarding superior communities tolerating inferior society internationally? Was this quote released during the election season? whatever the reasons it seems that either he wanted to garner the votes of PEW organisation or he was in an mentally inebriated state.

The measure of your faith is the measure of the pain you can endure. D.Brown

[cafolini]

Children are often inventing and telling lies. Adults often do the same, but worse. They forget. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

I'm not sure why Religion is tied strictly to Spirituality, when one could be religious doing anything. ~ Shaman_Raman

[cafolini]

When it comes to dealing with terrorism there can't be any form of official brutality. There cannot even be any Miranda rights. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

Lotus 123456

Justice will be done. ~ Bush

We did not want that war. ~ Bush

This is the mother of all wars. ~ Saddam as emperor of Babylon

I am the president of Iraq and I am willing to negotiate. [Is this the mother of all peace?] ~ Saddam as ace in the hole.

Today, justice has been done. ~ Obama

Case closed.

[nayyarsarah]

"Shoot for the moon, and if you miss you'll still land among the stars"
-P.S, I love you.

[cafolini]

The soul cannot accept a rank. Fools are those who want to give it an involuntary one, for their own or for that of others. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

My most profound respect for Jason Collins. Being a heterosexual, like I am, is my most precise way of not being stupidly homophobic. ~ C A Cafolini

[Ecurb]

Why do so many people who support gay rights announce their own heterosexuality? I hear it regularly: "I'm straight myself, but I support gay marriage...." It's as if many who support gay rights are terrified of being identified as gay themselves.

[ksvane]

It can certainly be interpreted that way, but it might also be that they announce their heterosexuality simply because it makes supporting gay rights seem even more heroic ("Look at me, I'm so deep and accepting, yes, even towards people who are not like me.")

[cafolini]

Why do so many people who support gay rights announce their own heterosexuality? I hear it regularly: "I'm straight myself, but I support gay marriage...." It's as if many who support gay rights are terrified of being identified as gay themselves.

That's not true, Ecurb. The vast majority do not use the word "straight" as a distinction.

[Shaman_Raman]

“Sometimes there is absolutely no difference at all between salvation and damnation.” Stephen King


I'm not sure why Religion is tied strictly to Spirituality, when one could be religious doing anything. ~ Shaman_Raman

Cafolini, I just saw you quoted me, I'm touched. Please forgive my honesty, but I can't figure out whether I should like or resent you at this point, lol.

[Bleeding Pawn]

Is the word "gay" being used here as an alternative for Sodomists or for Les**ns ?and does the act of sodomy cease to persist if they are in a consensual relationship?
I`ve noticed that the "natural" rights of sodomists are very much highlighted, especially during the election season and the politicians are more determined to prioritise their union as God given authority of free will not as God forbidden act. The same goes with the Femen or PETA organisations.

[The Atheist]

Is the word "gay" being used here as an alternative for Sodomists or for Les**ns ?and does the act of sodomy cease to persist if they are in a consensual relationship?

Ask some religious men. Married to women kind of men, that is, since "sodomy" is specifically an act not just between two men, and most couples practice things that can be described as sodomy.

Funnily enough, there is no christian, biblical-based objection to lesbians and lesbianism. Given that the god-chappie is said to be omnipresent, does that mean female couples are ok?


I`ve noticed that the "natural" rights of sodomists are very much highlighted, especially during the election season and the politicians are more determined to prioritise their union as God given authority of free will not as God forbidden act. The same goes with the Femen or PETA organisations.

Can you provide an example of gay rights advocates claiming a god-given authority? Or PETA, for that matter?

I'm interested in your focusing on sodomy - do you have a personal problem you're trying to avoid?

Gay relationships and marriage are about love, not sex.

[Ecurb]

Gay relationships and marriage are about love, not sex.

Well, if "gay" is used as a synonym for "homosexual" this seems clearly incorrect. ("Homosexual" certainly refers to sex, not love.) Personally, I think "same sex marriage" is the more appropriate term. There are opposite sex marriages in which (if we can believe "Dear Abby" letters) there is very little sex involved, and (probably) same sex marriages about which the same is true. I sort of like the now quaint and old fashioned euphemisms such as "long time companion" and "great and good friend", which can be used equally for same sex and opposite sex members of unmarried couples. (As a matter of literary form, I don't like "partner", which suggests that the relationship is based on money and business.)

[The Atheist]

Well, if "gay" is used as a synonym for "homosexual" this seems clearly incorrect.

I don't, so this is a better way of describing it to avoid confusion:


Personally, I think "same sex marriage" is the more appropriate term.


(As a matter of literary form, I don't like "partner", which suggests that the relationship is based on money and business.)

Agree entirely, and it bugs the hell out of me that it's been co-opted by non-married couples. I have had several business partners and every time I refer to "my partner", I'm then required to explain that it's a business partner, as opposed to my wife.

Worst of all, the tendency for 18 year-olds who have been dating for two weeks to refer to each other as their "partner" that I hear all the time.

[Bleeding Pawn]

Ask some religious men. Married to women kind of men, that is, since "sodomy" is specifically an act not just between two men, and most couples practice things that can be described as sodomy.


Given that the god-chappie is said to be omnipresent, does that mean female couples are ok?

The act of sodomy I was refering to here was the act between the union of homosexuals.

All Abrahamic faith denounces the act of homose*uality.

Genesis 18: 8 quotes Bible


“Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

And in the Koran


026.165 Y: "Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males,"
P: What! Of all creatures do ye come unto the males,
S: What! do you come to the males from among the creatures
026.166 Y: "And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing (all limits)!"
P: And leave the wives your Lord created for you? Nay, but ye are froward folk.
S: And leave what your Lord has created for you of your wives? Nay, you are a people exceeding limits.

These verses clearly contradicts homose*uality preferring heterose*uality as the natural way.



Funnily enough, there is no christian, biblical-based objection to lesbians and lesbianism.

What?!!! Are you trying to emphasize that Bible and all its stories are representatives of moral values of humanity? Does that mean whatever is not mentioned Bible or to which it holds no objection, is tolerable ? So if we go by this criteria then whatever is in Bible is also acceptable?
There are way many graver acts besides homos**uality,mentioned in it and if we go by the standard you put forth then incestuous relations will be the norm today.
Would a sane man or for that matter, any human being indulge in this heinous crime?



Can you provide an example of gay rights advocates claiming a god-given authority? Or PETA, for that matter?

It says God given authority of free will, not a free roller-coaster in the name of authority.



I'm interested in your focusing on sodomy - do you have a personal problem you're trying to avoid?

If we show some concern about a certain social issue, how can it be deemed personal? If we as relevant citizens of a responsible society stand up against a serious crime like rape and vouch for severe punishment for the culprit as an act of justice for the victim, does that mean that we have a personal issue with the act of rape and the rapist?
We do not necessarily have to go through a tragedy to comprehend the side-effects of a certain negative element of our society and the humanity in general.


Gay relationships and marriage are about love, not sex.

Were you saying this out of personal experience? It is all about love and everybody loves to do what they love. How can you be sure that all homose*uals just desire mutual affection and not enjoyment of ones flesh? Does not the love one has for their spouse transgresses beyond the emotional attachment?

[The Atheist]

The act of sodomy I was refering to here was the act between the union of homosexuals.

So sodomy is ok between couples? Pleased to hear that. Once the churches that are still anti-gay see the date, there's some chance they will realise that there isn't a valid reason to oppose homosexuality.


All Abrahamic faith denounces the act of homose*uality.

Genesis 18: 8 quotes Bible

Fail.

The passage is saying the girls should sleep with the men of their father's choice, not the other ones. It makes no comment on lesbians at all. Maybe you should re-read it in context.

Using the bible as evidence in this way means that incest is clearly ok, then. If you read on just a little - Genesis 19:30-36 - then it's clearly ok to have sex with your daughters.


And in the Koran

I didn't mention the koran, but you're right, it does prohibit lesbianism. The koran also says:


And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.

Since the koran is infallible, that means it's ok to kill atheists. This is why I don't consider the koran as a serious basis for any kind of morality. As I'm sure you know, that passage is not the only one.



What?!!! Are you trying to emphasize that Bible and all its stories are representatives of moral values of humanity?

Nope; I was just pointing out that the bible doesn't mention lesbianism.



It says God given authority of free will, not a free roller-coaster in the name of authority.

This is pretty simple - either the god gives free will or it does not. I do realise that having a dollar each way has long been a religious prerogative.



If we show some concern about a certain social issue, how can it be deemed personal?

How on earth is it a social issue? They aren't making gayness compulsory. Do you object to people masturbating in their homes? Both the bible and koran prohibit that.


If we as relevant citizens of a responsible society stand up against a serious crime like rape and vouch for severe punishment for the culprit as an act of justice for the victim, does that mean that we have a personal issue with the act of rape and the rapist?

I'm glad you typed that, because it is the crux of the issue. Rape and murder involve innocent victims, and are therefore very much society's problem. Homosexual sex is consensual and has no victim.

I am interested that you are trying to equate murder & rape to homosexuality, though.



We do not necessarily have to go through a tragedy to comprehend the side-effects of a certain negative element of our society and the humanity in general.

Given that statement, here's a very simple question for you:

In what way is homosexuality negative for society?

I've racked my brains trying to think of one rational way it could be a societal issue, but I can't find one. Homosexuality isn't infectious, so seeing and being around gay & lesbian couples won't cause mass outbreaks of gayness.



Were you saying this out of personal experience? It is all about love and everybody loves to do what they love. How can you be sure that all homose*uals just desire mutual affection and not enjoyment of ones flesh? Does not the love one has for their spouse transgresses beyond the emotional attachment?

Crikey, you are out of touch with reality. Gays don't need to marry to get sex: there's even a smartphone app to find sexual partners at short notice. The very fact that some of them are choosing to turn away from the promiscuous lifestyle to marriage is pretty much self-evidence that they're doing it for love.

As it happens, I'm married to a woman and have several children.

[cafolini]

Saddam Hussain will not be permitted to annex Kuwait. This is nor a threat. This is the way it's going to be. Our cause is just. Our cause is moral. Our cause is right. ~ President Bush.

[Inky]

I love the whole poem of Invictus, but the last lines really hit home.

"It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul."

Another that comes to mind -

“Two men look out through the same bars: One sees the mud and one the stars.”

Frederick Langbridge

[cafolini]

All that really belongs to us is time; even he who has nothing else has that. ~ Balthasar Gracian

[Bleeding Pawn]

So sodomy is ok between couples?

In what way is homosexuality negative for society?

Sodomy is sodomy whether it involves women or man, though there are some precautions and health concerns that you need to be aware of and take into mind certain medical considerations regarding this activity. (http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS01B1)



Fail.

The passage is saying the girls should sleep with the men of their father's choice, not the other ones. It makes no comment on lesbians at all. Maybe you should re-read it in context.

Wong.
If you go through the conversations prior to this verse, between the townsfolk and Prophet Lot, we will know that he was in fact subjected to pleading the townsfolk to spare his guests (males) and their modesty, lest they be defiled. As an alternative to their desires for males, he suggested to fulfill their carnal pleasures with females, in turn literally offering his daughters (females).


Using the bible as evidence in this way means that incest is clearly ok, then.

Did not I mention this in my earlier post? or maybe you had missed it by chance.


If you read on just a little - Genesis 19:30-36 - then it's clearly ok to have sex with your daughters.
There is more, if you go down a little further you will find in Genesis 38:11-30, a chain of events unfolding which starts with seduction followed my incest and the end result being, pure bastardy.


I didn't mention the koran, but you're right, it does prohibit lesbianism.
Koran prohibits lesbianism!! Pray do point it out to me where exactly in The Koran it forbids lesbianism.


And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.

Since the koran is infallible, that means it's ok to kill atheists.
Really?!!! Atheists?!!! Where is it mentioned atheists? or Do I have to read between the lines to really grasp the true hidden meaning of this quote.
As far as history concerns, there were no atheists in Pre-Islamic Arab region nor in the 7th century when Islam was propagated through out the Arab world as a religion. Rather it was the opposite, since the pagan arabs concept of God was similar to the Greek Mythological Gods, worshiping different gods for different purposes on alternative days.
It seems you are confused to whom them is referred to in this verse and when googling it and going through the earlier threads in the religious section of Lit-Net, it is more probable that you have quoted this verse out of context.


Nope; I was just pointing out that the bible doesn't mention lesbianism.
and here I was thinking that lesbians were categorised as homos**uals but the way you put it, it seems they are a whole new creed altogether. Are you confused or you do not want to accept them as Homos?


This is pretty simple - either the god gives free will or it does not. I do realise that having a dollar each way has long been a religious prerogative.
I was expecting you to raise up this issue, sooner or later.It is evident in the earlier thread/posts in the Religious Texts of Lit-Net that whenever someone`s comments were even remotely related to free-will, destiny, predestination, somehow the ineffectiveness of God as an omnipresent Being was dragged into the issue ending with the confusion related to the existence of God. Enough has been said/discussed regarding this topic that it has become a pretty hackneyed subject, which even though is interesting but has nothing new to offer to prolong this discussion nor have i got to add anything new to it.


Do you object to people masturbating in their homes? Both the bible and koran prohibit that.

Wonders of wonders. We knew that the Bible has contents relating to rape, murder, incest and beastialities but never ever have its biggest detractors, after thousands of years, gone on record to claim the masturbation thing. . Do you have any evidence to back-up this claim of Koran and Bible prohibitng masturbation?


I've racked my brains trying to think of one rational way it could be a societal issue, but I can't find one. Homosexuality isn't infectious, so seeing and being around gay & lesbian couples won't cause mass outbreaks of gayness.

It isn`t contagious maybe because, as they claim, they practice it safe but then we can`t be sure, after reading the report, for whole of this creed to practice it religiously


Crikey, you are out of touch with reality. Gays don't need to marry to get sex: there's even a smartphone app to find sexual partners at short notice. The very fact that some of them are choosing to turn away from the promiscuous lifestyle to marriage is pretty much self-evidence that they're doing it for love.
It seems puzzling to why they go to great lengths to legalise their unholy union. Isn`t the salvation thing their only motive behind all their efforts for equal marriage rights?


As it happens, I'm married to a woman and have several children.
I did not ask you to clarify about your personal life or maybe you mistook my query about your personal experience, in fact I was amused by your firm belief that g*y relationships revolved around love. How can you be sure about that? Do have anyone in your circle who practice it

I'm glad you typed that, because it is the crux of the issue. Rape and murder involve innocent victims, and are therefore very much society's problem. Homosexual sex is consensual and has no victim.

I am interested that you are trying to equate murder & rape to homosexuality, though.

It may not be magnanimous in its seriousness as/when compared to rape but then when has quantity got something to do with such sensitive issues.
Many religious persons claim that they are provoking the wrath of God and the day is not far when the history of Sodom and Gomorrah is repeated ( though it seems absurd to me to think of like that happening today). Another group, a tax-paying-conscious-group,thinks that since homos**uals patients are being taken care of by the public healthcare, their treatment is a burden on the society.

Homos**uality, its magnanimity notwithstanding, is still an issue and if the above given report`s findings is based on truth then this issue should be dealt with with utmost care. Would not it be humane enough to detoxify the society, not from their existence but from the psychological ailments they are suffering from.

[cafolini]

All that really belongs to us is time; even he who has nothing else has that. ~ Balthasar Gracian

[The Atheist]

Sodomy is sodomy whether it involves women or man, though there are some precautions and health concerns that you need to be aware of and take into mind certain medical considerations regarding this activity. (http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS01B1)

It's a shame the homophobe who wrote that didn't count the statistics from Africa, where AIDS is a primarily heterosexual disease, with millions more sufferers than USA.



If you go through the conversations prior to this verse, between the townsfolk and Prophet Lot, we will know that he was in fact subjected to pleading the townsfolk to spare his guests (males) and their modesty, lest they be defiled. As an alternative to their desires for males, he suggested to fulfill their carnal pleasures with females, in turn literally offering his daughters (females).

Yeah, he was offering his daughters to MEN. You need to read that bit again.



There is more, if you go down a little further you will find in Genesis 38:11-30, a chain of events unfolding which starts with seduction followed my incest and the end result being, pure bastardy.

Does not forbid it, however, plus the rather obvious fact that if the god only created Adam & Eve, the siblings were having sex to populate the planet.



Koran prohibits lesbianism!! Pray do point it out to me where exactly in The Koran it forbids lesbianism.

This is getting a bit strange, because it was you that said the koran prohibited it!

Are you now saying it does not prohibit lesbianism?



Really?!!! Atheists?!!! Where is it mentioned atheists? or Do I have to read between the lines to really grasp the true hidden meaning of this quote.
As far as history concerns, there were no atheists in Pre-Islamic Arab region nor in the 7th century when Islam was propagated through out the Arab world as a religion. Rather it was the opposite, since the pagan arabs concept of God was similar to the Greek Mythological Gods, worshiping different gods for different purposes on alternative days.
It seems you are confused to whom them is referred to in this verse and when googling it and going through the earlier threads in the religious section of Lit-Net, it is more probable that you have quoted this verse out of context.

The context is pretty straightforward: "such is the reward of those who suppress faith". Who it referred to originally is irrelevant, and it's made even more obvious by Saudi Arabia and many other islamic-ruled countries where atheism is punishable by law - by death in Iran.

You realise you're arguing against islamic religious scholars?



and here I was thinking that lesbians were categorised as homos**uals but the way you put it, it seems they are a whole new creed altogether. Are you confused or you do not want to accept them as Homos?

Technically, they are homosexuals, but the word has evolved to mainly refer to gays rather than lesbians. I don't care how they are categorised.

Wonders of wonders. We knew that the Bible has contents relating to rape, murder, incest and beastialities but never ever have its biggest detractors, after thousands of years, gone on record to claim the masturbation thing. . Do you have any evidence to back-up this claim of Koran and Bible prohibitng masturbation?

Koran: 23:5-7 is again recognised by most islamic scholars as anti-masturbation. “And who guard their private parts, Except before their wifes or those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blameable, But whoever seeks to go beyond that, these are they that exceed the limits”

Hey, I'm no expert on the koran and islam, so if masturbation isn't banned by the book and the scholars, let me know.

In the bible, the story of Onan is considered by many churches as a prohibition against masturbation. I actually that is incorrect, but who is an atheist to argue against churches. Again, if masturbation is not seen as sinful by churches, please let me know.


It isn`t contagious maybe because, as they claim, they practice it safe but then we can`t be sure, after reading the report, for whole of this creed to practice it religiously

I was referring to the homosexuality being contagious.



It seems puzzling to why they go to great lengths to legalise their unholy union. Isn`t the salvation thing their only motive behind all their efforts for equal marriage rights?

It has absolutely nothing to do with salvation, and everything to do with equality. Denying them marriage is reinforcing their incorrect status as second-class citizens.



I did not ask you to clarify about your personal life or maybe you mistook my query about your personal experience, in fact I was amused by your firm belief that g*y relationships revolved around love. How can you be sure about that? Do have anyone in your circle who practice it

Given the number of heterosexual relationships where the male controls the female, or the relationship is dysfunctional for other reasons, I have no reason to doubt love as the basis for homosexual couples to publicly state their desire for a long-term relationship.

I know a great deal of gay men and lesbian women. Some of them are after love, some are after sex - just like everyone else.


Would not it be humane enough to detoxify the society, not from their existence but from the psychological ailments they are suffering from.

Alas, neither psychologists nor the wider medical community see homosexuality as an illness.

[Darcy88]

It seems puzzling to why they go to great lengths to legalise their unholy union. Isn`t the salvation thing their only motive behind all their efforts for equal marriage rights?


I did not ask you to clarify about your personal life or maybe you mistook my query about your personal experience, in fact I was amused by your firm belief that g*y relationships revolved around love. How can you be sure about that? Do have anyone in your circle who practice it


It may not be magnanimous in its seriousness as/when compared to rape but then when has quantity got something to do with such sensitive issues.
Many religious persons claim that they are provoking the wrath of God and the day is not far when the history of Sodom and Gomorrah is repeated ( though it seems absurd to me to think of like that happening today). Another group, a tax-paying-conscious-group,thinks that since homos**uals patients are being taken care of by the public healthcare, their treatment is a burden on the society.

Homos**uality, its magnanimity notwithstanding, is still an issue and if the above given report`s findings is based on truth then this issue should be dealt with with utmost care. Would not it be humane enough to detoxify the society, not from their existence but from the psychological ailments they are suffering from.

Gay relationships are as much about love as heterosexual ones are. This is a simple fact. If there is any doubt of this in your mind then you need to go interact with some gay people.

That Family Research Council link is so homophobic and bogus I wish I could regurgitate it from my brain. Gays don't suffer from "psychological ailments" anymore than heterosexuals do. Its ironic that anyone would characterize love as a "psychological ailment," ignoring the true ailment here, which is the hatred such people have for people who love certain people.

[Scheherazade]

~

~ R e m i n d e r ~

The aim of this thread is to share your favourite quotes with your fellow Forum members.

If there are other issues you would like to discuss,

please do so in separate threads.

Off-topic posts will be removed without further notice.

~

[Nathanial]

Ask the learned, speak with the wise, and associate with the poor.
slow and steady wins the race.
The good of this world and the world to come is with knowledge.
The destruction of man lies in three (things): his stomach, his lusts, and his tongue.

[Bleeding Pawn]

No man is rich enough to buy back his past - Oscar Wilde

[Buckthorn]

Diotallevi was at the door of his room, pointedly tolerant.
Diotalleve's tolerance was always exasperating, but Belbo didn't seem to mind it. He tolerated it. - Umberto Eco

[cafolini]

God may forgive your sins, but your nervous system won't. ~ Alfred Korzybski

[Darcy88]

"I should have loved a thunderbird instead;
At least when spring comes they roar back again.
I shut my eyes and all the world drops dead.
(I think I made you up inside my head.)”

- Sylvia Plath

[Darcy88]

“Let us read, and let us dance; these two amusements will never do any harm to the world.” - Voltaire

[cafolini]

I am somewhat sad about Voltaire. He was such a good thinker, but often he had circumstantial antisemitic fibs. I really like the one you now carry around by Goethe.

[Bleeding Pawn]

People are bound to pardon a wild, profane, godless man, if saints have never flourished in their area. Hound of the Baskervilles

[cafolini]

You must live for another if you wish to live for yourself.~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[cafolini]

If you live in fear, this is not for you. But assuming you have no fear, has His Grace given you good morals? I am asking this because no fear with no morals is the most accurate definition of a criminal. ~ C A Cafolini

[Darcy88]

"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." - Thoreau

"Absence diminishes small loves and increases great ones, as the wind blows out the candle and fans the bonfire." - François de La Rochefoucauld

"The best thing for me is a drunken sleep on the beach." Rimbaud

"There are women who inspire you with the desire to conquer them and to take your pleasure of them; but this one fills you only with the desire to die slowly beneath her gaze."
— Charles Baudelaire

"The Poet is a kinsman in the clouds
Who scoffs at archers, loves a stormy day;
But on the ground, among the hooting crowds,
He cannot walk, his wings are in the way."
— Charles Baudelaire (Les Fleurs Du Mal)

[hannah_arendt]

"There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about" O.Wilde

[Bleeding Pawn]

Our life is made by the death of others - Leonardo da Vinci

Does anyone know why Leonardo said that and what he meant by it?

[TheLhix]

Well, in a literal sense he was a scientist and, science often gives theories about how you cannot have life without death. That would be my literal guess.


"The darkest places in hell rest for those who maintain there neutrality in times of crisis" - Dante

I am not a believer in the hell and, heaven theories and Ideals but, I don't think you have to be to understand this quote.

[Bleeding Pawn]

"The darkest places in hell rest for those who maintain there neutrality in times of crisis" - Dante

So was that the reason behind Dante acting as "God" and cast certain historical characters to the hell fire in Inferno?

[TheLhix]

It's a very good possibility whence you wrap you're mind around it.

[Bleeding Pawn]

Seems so, not scrutinisng though but just thinking.

[Heaven'sflower]

Try to keep that person always happy whome you see everyday in the mirror :)
nd why why why :willy_nilly:
love self inspirations. thats why :)

[Darcy88]

“I am eternally grateful for my knack of finding in great books, some of them very funny books, reason enough to feel honored to be alive, no matter what else might be going on.” ― Kurt Vonnegut

[cafolini]

On every tree there sits a bird
Singing a song of love

On every tree there sits a bird
And every one I ever heard
Could break my heart without a word
Singing a song of love

A song of love is a sad song
Hi-lili, hi-lili, hi-lo
A song of love is a song of woe
Don't ask me how I know

A song of love is a sad song
For you have loved and it's so

You sit at the window and watch the rain
Hi-lili, hi-lili, hi-lo
Tomorrow you'll probably love again
Hi-lili, hi-lili, hi-lo
Hi-lili, hi-lili, hi-lo

A song of love is a song of woe
A song of love is a sad song
For you have loved and it's so

You sit at the window and watch the rain
Hi-lili, hi-lili, hi-lo
Tomorrow you'll probably love again
Hi-lili, hi-lili, hi-lo

~ Helen Deutsch

[Bleeding Pawn]

When the seagulls follow the trawler it is because they think sardines will be thrown in to the sea.
Eric Cantona ( ex- France/ Manchester United player)

According to Cantona, even he did not know why he said that but it seems he was indirectly targeting the paparazzi.

[cafolini]

Incredible is what's true. Credible is what's a lie. ~ C A Cafolini

[Bleeding Pawn]

The two biggest sellers in every bookstore are the cookbooks and the diet books. The cookbooks tell you how to prepare the food and the diet book tells you how not to eat any of it. Andy Rooney

[cafolini]

If you wish to write fantasy, use it for the purpose of showing what's not there, so that what's there is what's left. Any other way of writing fantasy is the game of malice and doesn't count. One person telling the truth is worth billions playing the game of malice. Case closed. ~ C A Cafolini

[Jaerith]

Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing.

--- Clive James

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[cafolini]

Both Hemingway and Lorca admired bullfighters. Lorca wrote about the dancing art of the torero which did not spring from considerations about what the spectator thought. The dis-grace at the Spanish plaza was the unnecessary killing and ear slashing. ~ C A Cafolini

[Mairwen]

"I am the master of my fate, / I am the captain of my soul." William Ernest Henley (from his poem "Invictus")
"Has any one supposed it lucky to be born? / I hasten to inform him or her it is just as lucky to die, and I know it." Walt Whitman (from his poem "Songs of Myself")

The second one is really to say that it is lucky to die because it shows that one has lived (hopefully a long, fruitful life).

[Mairwen]

"I am the master of my fate, / I am the captain of my soul." William Ernest Henley (from his poem "Invictus")
"Has any one supposed it lucky to be born? / I hasten to inform him or her it is just as lucky to die, and I know it." Walt Whitman (from his poem "Songs of Myself")

The second one is really to say that it is lucky to die because it shows that one has lived (hopefully a long, fruitful life).

I love these because the first one comes from a poem that has been inspiring me since I read it as a senior in high school. I would recite it to myself before going into exams. Passing with flying colors, I realized that it gave me a certain strength and focus that I thought previously had been beyond me. The second one is just a beautiful observance, in my opinion. Walt Whitman was gifted in that he could see life for the gift that it was. Those of us lucky enough to live it, will be lucky enough to see death. Death, to Whitman, really is just an illusion because everything is a part of everything. Truly, he seems like the first American literary hippie to me. If there was one before him, do not hesitate to inform me.

[cafolini]

Terrorism is a delinquency dressed up with political rags and sleazy newspapers. ~ C A Cafolini

[Bleeding Pawn]

The enemy has only images and illusions behind which he hides his true motives; destroy the image and you will break the enemy. Taoism

[Cuppa' Tea]

"Show me a man or a woman alone and I'll show you a saint. Give me two and they'll fall in love. Give me three and they'll invent the charming thing we call 'society'. Give me four and they'll build a pyramid. Give me five and they'll make one an outcast. Give me six and they'll reinvent prejudice. Give me seven and in seven years they'll reinvent warfare. Man may have been made in the image of God, but human society was made in the image of His opposite number, and is always trying to get back home." -Glen Bateman from Stephen King's book "The Stand"

In war,' answered the weaver, 'the strong make slaves of the weak, and in peace the rich make slaves of the poor. We must work to live, and they give us such mean wages that we die. We toil for them all day long, and they heap up gold in their coffers, and our children fade away before their time, and the faces of those we love become hard and evil. We tread out the grapes, and another drinks the wine. We sow the corn, and our own board is empty. We have chains, though no eye beholds them; and are slaves, though men call us free.' -Oscar Wilde's "The Young King"

“I want to rip off your logic and make passionate sense to you. I want to ride in the swing of your hips. My fingers will dig in you like quotation marks, blazing your limbs into parts of speech.” - Jeffrey McDaniel

[cafolini]

The only time machine is a clock. It moves forward. It measures time. The units of measurement are arbitrary. If we convene as to the units of measurement to be used, we can measure time together. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

If as an atheist you are willing to do good, we might find a meeting place. ~ Pope Bergoglio, AKA Francis.

[The Atheist]

If as an atheist you are willing to do good, we might find a meeting place. ~ Pope Bergoglio, AKA Francis.

Context. (http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/did-pope-francis-say-that-atheists-can-get-to-heaven-by-good-works)

[cafolini]

Thinking that any thing is the word of God results in very funny reasoning. But what are we to think? We who live in the midst of the mystery of life have no other genuine alternative. The hope is that we will be blessed by His Grace. May we all be blessed by His Grace. In God we trust. ~ C A Cafolini

[Negin]

"The more difficult the obstacle the more glory in overcoming it." Moliere
It gives me hope and energy in facing difficulties.

[cafolini]

"The more difficult the obstacle the more glory in overcoming it." Moliere
It gives me hope and energy in facing difficulties.

Those who seek glory are playing God and they already lost that battle a long time ago.

[Ecurb]

"The more difficult the obstacle the more glory in overcoming it." Moliere
It gives me hope and energy in facing difficulties.


Henry V responds to Westmorland's wish for ten thousand more Englishmen, at the Battle of Agincourt.


What's he that wishes so?
My cousin Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin:
If we are mark'd to die, we are enow
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God's will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires:
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England:
God's peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more, methinks, would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made
And crowns for convoy put into his purse:
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.

[Bleeding Pawn]

It is not the want of will, its the strength that i want. If i could i would but as sure as i am alive, I cannot.

[Jackson Richardson]

From Act 2 of The Importance of Being Earnest

Jack. Ah! that reminds me, you mentioned christenings I think, Dr. Chasuble? I suppose you know how to christen all right? [Dr. Chasuble looks astounded.] I mean, of course, you are continually christening, aren’t you?

Miss Prism. It is, I regret to say, one of the Rector’s most constant duties in this parish. I have often spoken to the poorer classes on the subject. But they don’t seem to know what thrift is.

[Jackson Richardson]

And the dialogue directly following is pretty good as well. (It is Miss Prism's interjections that are wonderful to my mind.)

Chasuble. But is there any particular infant in whom you are interested, Mr. Worthing? Your brother was, I believe, unmarried, was he not?

Jack. Oh yes.

Miss Prism. [Bitterly.] People who live entirely for pleasure usually are.

[papillondemai]

One of my favorites that I can remember now is "timshel" (thou mayest) from East of Eden. My preferred translation of what God told Cain when he banished him to the Land of Nod, east of Eden because it lays the burden of overcoming evil and attaining salvation directly on Cain himself. Since we are all descendants of Cain, God is telling us that we may overcome and be saved by our own works. But I have wondered if I really understand it because this interpretation seems to be inconsistent with the message of Jesus which is that we are saved not by our works but by accepting Jesus as our savior. But, I do find some encouragement in my interpretation.

[papillondemai]

Here's another. This one is by Arthur Rimbaud from Morning in A Season In Hell.

"when shall we go beyond the mountains and the shores, to greet the birth of new toil, of new wisdom, the flight of tyrants, of demons, the end of superstition, to adore-the first to adore!-Christmas on the earth."

[papillondemai]

Another one by Rimbaud. From Farewell in A Season In Hell.

"Spiritual combat is as brutal as the battle of men: but the vision of justice is the pleasure of God alone."

[papillondemai]

Here's one by Charles Baudelaire from the prose poem Be Drunken.

"Be drunken, always. That is the point; nothing else matters. If you would not feel the horrible burden of Time weigh you down and crush you to the earth, be drunken continually. Drunken with what? With wine, with poetry or with virtue as you please. But be drunken"

[cafolini]

Well she seemed all right by dawn's early light
Though she looked a little worried and weak
She tried to pretend he wasn't drinkin' again
But daddy left the proof on her cheek
And I was only eight years old that summer
And I always seemed to be in the way
So, I took myself down to the fair in town
On Independence Day

Well word gets around in a small, small town
They said he was a dangerous man
Mama was proud and she stood her ground
She knew she was on the losin' end

Some folks whispered some folks talked
But everybody looked the other way
When time ran out there was no one about
On Independence Day

Let freedom ring, let the white dove sing
Let the whole world know that today is a day of reckoning
Let the weak be strong, let the right be wrong
Roll the stone away, let the guilty pay, it's Independence Day

Well she lit up the sky that fourth of July
By the time that the firemen come
They just put out the flames and took down some names
And sent me to the county home

Now, I ain't sayin' it's right or it's wrong
But maybe it's the only way
Talk about your revolution
It's the Independence Day

Let freedom ring, let the white dove sing
Let the whole world know that today is a day of reckoning
Let the weak be strong, let the right be wrong
Roll the stone away, let the guilty pay, it's Independence Day
Roll the stone away, it's Independence Day


MARTINA MCBRIDE - INDEPENDENCE DAY LYRICS

[cafolini]

Some errors in judgment.
It’s a big error to assume that the revolutionary war caused Americans not call themselves British. They saw themselves as British a-priori. They called the redcoats regulars. The issue in those days was to determine who would rule the colonies. When the revolution ended and the independence was declared, the Americans still thought of themselves as British. Not much really changed in that regard until much later, and that was because USA became a land of the free and the home of the brave through multiple migrations.
Another error occurs regarding calling people Protestants. I do not know any protesters or Protestants after the reformation was established. Only the Roman Catholics, not willing to admit having been finished by the reformers, still insist that they are protesters. But think about carefully: how could the victors be protesting? Ridiculous.
Still another error is to think that by using the word Catholic (meaning worldwide, or universal) we are automatically referring to the Roman Catholics. But there is the Episcopal Catholic Church, and the Anglican Catholic Church. The members of this two churches combined are about a tenth of the members of the Roman Catholic Church. If you look at the numbers, and you are naïve, you could think of the Roman Catholics as more powerful. But the power of the other two Catholic Churches is far far greater in ruling the world through democracy. I thought I’d provide this thoughts in the appropriate timeframe of Independence Day.

[Anaïs]

We die only once, and for such a long time - Molière

Don't steal rolls! - Levin in Anna Karenina

[cafolini]

Understanding the meaning of morals requires the following thoughts.

We invented the word immorality to hide from ourselves a clear understanding of morals. Naturally we then think of bad morals as immoral. But morals are a gift of pre-eminence, a-priori. This gift lets us judge what's convenient or inconvenient to us, that is, good or bad morals. You may consider this a gift of God or not. I prefer to look at it that way, but it is irrelevant in the actual context. Bad morals are the ones of a criminal. They are simply not convenient morals. Good morals are the ones of a law-abiding citizen. They are simply convenient morals. And in this regard, if you grasp this, the word "immorality" in contrast to "morality" loses the feigned meaning and disappears as such. Also in knowing this, any "amorality" becomes impossible, for a moral judgment is always imperative in behavior calls. Hope you get this. It's the way it ist, ex-ist, and makes sense at once. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

The answer to the question of death is not "nothing." The answer is "who knows?" ~ C A Cafolini

[Darcy88]

Here's one by Charles Baudelaire from the prose poem Be Drunken.

"Be drunken, always. That is the point; nothing else matters. If you would not feel the horrible burden of Time weigh you down and crush you to the earth, be drunken continually. Drunken with what? With wine, with poetry or with virtue as you please. But be drunken"

That quote is awesome. I put up a couple Baudelaire gems a few pages or so back and almost added that one as well. The greatness of it is that he isn't merely referring to alcoholic inebriation but rather to intoxication of all kinds, including that of poetry, which alongside music I consider the highest of all.

[cafolini]

That quote is awesome. I put up a couple Baudelaire gems a few pages or so back and almost added that one as well. The greatness of it is that he isn't merely referring to alcoholic inebriation but rather to intoxication of all kinds, including that of poetry, which alongside music I consider the highest of all.

Poor Baudelaire. What a meaningless, desperate time he must have had.

[bookowskee]

Look at it go! - Vonnegut, Hocus Pocus

[cafolini]

The biggest mistake any of us can make is thinking that love is a feeling, an emotion. It's not that at all. It's an action. ~ Luanne Rice

[quidoftullamore]

Aside from the quote in my signature, probably "You cannot swim for new horizons until you have courage to lose sight of the shore." - William Faulkner. It's on the back of my copy of The Bear.

[cafolini]

The book to read is not the one which thinks for you, but the one which makes you think. No book in the world equals the Bible for that. ~ Harper Lee

[Subhasis Mondal]

my fav quot is from hamlet>>" to be or not to be that is the question"

[Subhasis Mondal]

Cool ...very true

[faithmairee]

"If you can't run with the big dogs stay on the porch." I probably like it because I can be pretty competitive at times.

[cafolini]

“Sometimes it's more generous to take than give,
he said.

"How?" Caroline asked.

"To let the other person give you what he has to offer. If you're always the one giving, you never have to feel disappointed, because you don't expect anything in return. But it's miserly in its own way. Because you never leave yourself open or give the other person a chance.” ~ Luanne Rice

[cafolini]

The book to read is not the one which thinks for you, but the one which makes you think. No book in the world equals the Bible for that. ~ Harper Lee

[cafolini]

A coward cannot be measured by his/her conscientious objection to war.
***
It was times like these when I thought my father, who hated guns and had never been to any wars, was the bravest man who ever lived. ~ Harper Lee

[Horrace_A_White]

"When I go to heaven, I'm going to ask to see the upstairs."
The quote is from the label on Retox's YPLL vinyl, although I think it's written on the CD as well, it's just so evil I love it.

[Melanie]

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t540/melaniespoetry/970731_542520849141441_1696379838_n_zps6862cda8.jp g (http://s1312.photobucket.com/user/melaniespoetry/media/970731_542520849141441_1696379838_n_zps6862cda8.jp g.html)

[bookowskee]

Where can a man escape to, when he hasn't enough madness left inside him? - Louis-Ferdinand Celine

[cafolini]

We could have gone to Vietnam, pave all the roads, install parking meters all over the place, and be back home for Christmas. ~ Ronald Reagan

Mr. Gorbochof, tear down that wall. ~ Ronald Reagan

We will not allow Saddam to annex Kuwait. This is not a threat. This is the way it's going to be. ~ Bush

Regarding the invasion of Iraq.

Our cause is just. Our cause is moral. Our cause is right. ~ Bush

Regarding the Berlin wall.

If I had told you that the wall of Berlin was going to be down a month before it happened, you would have refused to believe it. Then, from one day to the next, it had disappeared. ~ Salman Rushdie

[Premm]

My favorite quote is: "Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life" by Confucius . Seriously this quote always hover around my mind!

[cafolini]

My favorite quote is: "Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life" by Confucius . Seriously this quote always hover around my mind!

That's assuming that in the days of Confucius you would be allowed to do the job in actuality. That's why it hovers. But there were too many fortune cookies involved. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

Understanding the meaning of morals requires the following thoughts.

We invented the word immorality to hide from ourselves a clear understanding of morals. Naturally we then think of bad morals as immoral. But morals are a gift of pre-eminence, a-priori. This gift lets us judge what's convenient or inconvenient to us, that is, good or bad morals. You may consider this a gift of God or not. I prefer to look at it that way, but it is irrelevant in the actual context. Bad morals are the ones of a criminal. They are simply not convenient morals. Good morals are the ones of a law-abiding citizen. They are simply convenient morals. And in this regard, if you grasp this, the word "immorality" in contrast to "morality" loses the feigned meaning and disappears as such. Also in knowing this, any "amorality" becomes impossible, for a moral judgment is always imperative in behavior calls. Hope you get this. It's the way it ist, ex-ist, and makes sense at once. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

It's a very long ways before any thing can get to be philosophical. People will never get there before they get any thing there is to get. Don't waste your effort. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

Excellent definition of the psychopath in the Ariel Castro trial. He knows he's sick. He knows right from wrong and still thinks he was right and free to choose. At the same time he's capable of asking the victims and even God to forgive him because he's sick and impulsive, but then claiming that he's not a monster and that what happened was consensual. This is very different than the position of the mentally ill, who commits the crime based on moral grounds and thinks he/she is absolutely right, without any attention to right or wrong, because he/she is absolutely right.

[cafolini]

All mental cases are very credible. What's incredible is what makes sense. Why would you need to believe that? But unfortunately, all mental cases make sense to the ill. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

A few statistical facts and consequences.
23% of Mexicans are openly racist toward blacks. Another high percentage say to be neutral. But this neutrality only helps the racist and should be called indifference. A very small percent of Mexicans are openly against racism.
So, a black child runs home persecuted by a neighborhood watchman. The child is unarmed, yelling for help when he arrives to his doorsteps. His mother comes out when Zimmerman shoots him in the chest from two or three feet. The child runs away and collapses. His mother gets to him as he dies in her arms. Most likely there will be a civil suit against Zimmerman, as it should be. The charge should be Negligent Manslaughter. ~ C A Cafolini

[Sweetgirl]

One of my favourite quotes is "Life is like photography. You need the negatives to develop".

I don't know where it comes from, but it definitely is very true. I'm also into photography, so maybe that's why I like it so much :)

[cafolini]

To become a trusted person, one must have principles. But the problem is to find principles that make sense. Lacking that, people develop convictions which they call ethics, and try to force them on other people. Impossible. ~ C A Cafolini

[Bleeding Pawn]

A human is known, not by his compassion for his friends, but by his compassion for his enemies. Dan Brown


( Don`t know how much of that holds weight in today's world but has a nice ring to it, though )

[cafolini]

A human is known, not by his compassion for his friends, but by his compassion for his enemies. Dan Brown


( Don`t know how much of that holds weight in today's world but has a nice ring to it, though )

Yes it just has some ring to it. Can you imagine?
But of course, a defeated enemy as a POW inspires com-passion for that. But what passion in common could a soldier have for a fighting enemy? None.
The ax of Herodotus? YES!!!

[cafolini]

Many people think that money produces power (I'm not talking about the average citizen who mostly think so, but rather people that are relatively rich). But the truth is that the respect people has for the lastingly powerful is what produces the money. Those who think money does it are always a passing lightning bolt. ~ C A Cafolini

[Sweetgirl]

"Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans" - not sure where it comes from though!

[cafolini]

"Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans" - not sure where it comes from though!

That's one of John Lennon's best.

Add to that "The map is not the same as the territory," by Korsybski.

Add tp that "Life is not the one we lived, but the one we remember," by Gabby Marquez.

[Bleeding Pawn]

Don't let people judge your character and personality, you are what you are. ~ ?

[cafolini]

Watch your thoughts, for they become words.
Watch your words, for they become actions.
Watch your actions, for they become habits.
Watch your habits, for they become character.
Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny."


-Unknown

[Sweetgirl]

Watch your thoughts, for they become words.
Watch your words, for they become actions.
Watch your actions, for they become habits.
Watch your habits, for they become character.
Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny."


-Unknown

Love that one!

[cafolini]

There is no greater pain than the collection of past happiness during times of misery. ~ Dante

[cafolini]

There are three new synonyms that make so much sense that if you oppose their being synonyms to an extreme, you might lose all sense. Of course, synonyms need a framework where they operate.
Will take the military and the religious.
Attention Adam Gadahn, Daniel San Diego and Zulkili Abdhir, among many others.

The synonyms are for the word "Nuking." In the military there are two: "Droning" and "Enolagaying." In the religious framework: "Baptism" (by fire). ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

Understanding what Seal Team Six (not its real name which is a national secret) requires a grasp of a specific kind of flexibility. The training is for individuals and it is extremely exhausting. But it is not, as some people believe, a show of mind over matter. In order to enter the training people have to be very physically fit, but this is not the ultimate focus. Of all the people that enter only about 10% make it to the end. Why? Great athletes have applied, but most give up fast. Why? Because the objective is to show and prove how much a biological body can take, which is a lot a lot more than it is most commonly assumed. That’s the objective of the training. The people that graduate do so as individuals. Team work is not of the essence during the training. Only after they graduate the are thought as members of the team, during which stage they spend several years showing that they can do it. And it is a lifetime job. ~ C A Cafolini

[kushy]

Poetry is the work of poets, not of peoples or communities; artistic creation can never be anything but the production of an individual mind.

[Bleeding Pawn]

Those who came before us made certain that this country rode the first waves of the industrial revolutions, the first waves of modern invention, and the first wave of nuclear power, and this generation does not intend to founder in the backwash of the coming age of space. We mean to be a part of it--we mean to lead it. For the eyes of the world now look into space, to the moon and to the planets beyond, and we have vowed that we shall not see it governed by a hostile flag of conquest, but by a banner of freedom and peace. We have vowed that we shall not see space filled with weapons of mass destruction, but with instruments of knowledge and understanding. J.F.K

[cafolini]

Do not ask what you can do for your country unless you ask first what your country can do for you. Otherwise what would you want government for? What would you want good morals and law and order for? ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

Being humble, humus of this earth, might be a good thing, a very wise thing. A tail cannot waggle a dog. But having your thought repressed, a victim of antidemocratic treatment, might rightly demand and arrogant revolutionary. Jefferson and many other founding fathers thought so. ~ C A Cafolini

[Senserial]

“Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.”
― Rumi

[cafolini]

Some persons have what has been called “presence.” This is an unexplainable ability to enter a place and change the disposition of the audience in their absolute favor. David Letterman, Larry King, and Jay Leno, some of the very best interviewers of the 20th century recognized this “presence.” There have been several people in history that have had it. To mention a few: Cyrus the Great of Fars, Alfred the Great of England, Eleanor Roosevelt at the UN, Lew Wasserman of MCA, Johnny Carson of The Tonight Show. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

Russian president Putin is one of those guys who often makes me smile and sometimes laugh out loud. He plays it as if the UN were a body of people able to make decisions regarding how we in USA will act. But the UN is an advisory organ, not a decision-making one.
Regarding Syria and the gasing of rebels we will act according to the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA’s best interest, regardless of the stupid KGB blah-blah of Dicktopped Putin. We have demonstrated this again and again and will do it once more for sure. ~ C A Cafolini

[cafolini]

Memorable quotes from basic training in the 60's.

This is my weapon
this is my gun
this is for fighting
this is for fun.

***
-What is the spirit of the bayonet?
-To kill, sergeant, sir. To kill.
-How many kinds of bayonet fighters are there?
-The quick and the dead, seargent, sir. The quick and the dead.

[Emil Miller]

I just found this from Thomas Pynchon, it's an acute observation on the cabalistic nature of politicians; especially in relation to their desire to bomb Syria without proof or legality.

Quotation:

"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers."

[cacian]

''to understand life you must conquer right, and to do that you must live prosper and give ''

''to infinity a beyond and to the beyond a long, let both bond, to you there is mond''

[cafolini]

Tyrants, despots and nepotists are so much the same in their obstinacy that they cannot be dealt with other than by getting them out of their posts by whatever means are available. ~ C A Cafolini

The last words of Saddam Husain:

I am the president of Iraq and I'm willing to negotiate ~ Ace in the hole.

I am Saddam. Allah loves me ~ Close to death.

When president Videla, in Argentina was sentenced to life imprisonment for his crimes:

"Going to prison is just another service I'll render my country."

[Bleeding Pawn]

“You must not let anyone define your limits because of where you come from. Your only limit is your soul.” - Ratatouille

[cafolini]

Today there is no quote that could reach the memorial that is taking place as the families of the victims of 9/11 read the names.

[Bleeding Pawn]

Some problems arise when we begin to believe literally in our own metaphors. - D.Brown.

[cafolini]

It is true that if the Syrians of Assad use chemical weapons, we should attack their headquarters without delay. But Assad's army already killed tens of thousands with so-called conventional weapons and we should arm the rebels like we did in Lybia. Assad, like one more Gadaffi that will eventually bite the dust, will scream "kill the rats," to the heavens just like Gadaffi did. We have to, we must help get him and his out of there without delay. ~ C A Cafolini

[Melanie]

As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.”
― Ernest Hemingway, A Moveable Feast

[cafolini]

Once I met a man, born into Islam. He was an exiled like myself (whatever that is). He was a good man from Iraq and very ingenious, industrious, and more. We could talk many subjects, for he was well read. He would tell me stories about the torture chambers of Chemical Ali in the fascist government of Saddam Husain, how he had been in jail for months and how his good fortune had finally liberated him. He was a relative to one of the powerful hypocrites in government and by the pleading of his wife he was given a ticket to exile in America.
One day we were discussing the Quran, Mohamed’s exile from La Mecca to Yatrib, later known as Medina (The City of the Prophet), and the battles that were fought against the tribes until by the time of his death he had the Arabs at his feet.
Suddenly he started telling me that the Quran was a revelation, for it was impossible for Mohamed to have created it. He said, “Mohamed didn’t know his *** from a hole in the ground. He was an analphabet, a very poor man.”
I began thinking of Handel’s famous Messiah and paralleling it, “Unto us a true prophet is born, and the government shall rest upon his shoulder.”
But he was no longer listening. He had gone into a trance, as if seeking the unspeakable. And that, my friends, was the funniest joke a Muslin ever told me.

C A Cafolini

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1. Understanding the meaning of morals requires the following thoughts.

We invented the word immorality to hide from ourselves a clear understanding of morals. Naturally we then think of bad morals as immoral. But morals are a gift of pre-eminence, a-priori. This gift lets us judge what's convenient or inconvenient to us, that is, good or bad morals. You may consider this a gift of God or not. I prefer to look at it that way, but it is irrelevant in the actual context. Bad morals are the ones of a criminal. They are simply not convenient morals. Good morals are the ones of a law-abiding citizen. They are simply convenient morals. And in this regard, if you grasp this, the word "immorality" in contrast to "morality" loses the feigned meaning and disappears as such. Also in knowing this, any "amorality" becomes impossible, for a moral judgment is always imperative in behavior calls. Hope you get this. It's the way it ist, ex-ist, and makes sense at once. ~ C A Cafolini

[Buckthorn]

"Tell me, what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life?" Mary Oliver

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In college, you learn how to learn. Four years is not too much time to spend at that. ~ Mary Oliver

[Melanie]

To see the world in a grain of sand,
and to see heaven in a wild flower,
hold infinity in the palm of your hands,
and eternity in an hour.

William Blake

[Buckthorn]

In college, you learn how to learn. Four years is not too much time to spend at that. ~ Mary Oliver

I like that!!!!

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I like that!!!!

She was very outstanding in a very modest way. She was the #1 best seller of the New York Times for the longest time. I'm very glad you brought her to our attention. It is easy to forget some people that don't make much noise on the surface. Thanks.

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To see the world in a grain of sand,
and to see heaven in a wild flower,
hold infinity in the palm of your hands,
and eternity in an hour.

William Blake

Many have called Blake a romantic, but he's one of the most scientific poets.

Of course there is a world in a grain of sand, since the depths of it are infinite for which infinity can be held in the palm of your hands. And heaven can be anywhere you decide. And what about time? There is as much in one second as there is in 1000 years. Conventions don't measure absolute time but only for communications. Blake is consistent with science in whatever he says.
Check Robert Frost's I'm Well Acquainted with the Night, for another version of it.

Good quote, Melanie.

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Regarding prayer, every person has committed outrageous acts to a larger or lesser degrees, such as blind reactions, malice, uncalled for prejudices, vengeance, pride, envy, the seeking of glory, etc. So people's biggest prayer, outspokenly or in silence goes to asking that the punishment will not come to be an eye for an eye but that God in His Grace would give them a second chance to show that they have fully recognized their outrageous stupidity and allow each to become a member of the Church of God. This church is beyond the scope of any denomination or congregation claiming apostolic power. C A Cafolini

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To paraphrase Mencken: the apes have a definite disadvantage.

It is very difficult for people to accept that they evolved from apes. But it is far more difficult for apes to accept that they evolved from people.

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There is an extraordinary myth built around and wrapped around murderers. The idea is that it is possible to commit murder in cold blood. But every criminal I ever studied was always hot as hell at the time. ~ C A Cafolini

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There is no salvation-ism that could help beyond this life. There is no congregation or denomination that could redeem you beyond a hope. And there is no prayer that could close the issue. Clues are not dues. It is only by His Grace that you can be given a second chance to love before it becomes too late. Your complete exposure to your acts are unavoidable. You are absolutely transparent to those of us that have sense. And if so, can you imagine how transparent you are to your creator? ~ C A Cafolini

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There is absolutely no question as to the validity of genetic evolution. But some people think of it as a synonym of progress. It is not. It is a form of change that could go one way or the other.

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How long would it take you to tell me that time doesn't exist? ~ C A Cafolini

[Love Literature]

onE oF mY fAv iS "Maybe GOD hAS a biGGer pLan fOr mE thAn I hAd fOr mYSelf.... thiS thinKinG bRinGs a pOSitivE enerGy...

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The only thing you own is time. You either waste it or you join us in the establishment of conventional units of measurement in order to communicate your whats. hows. wheres. and whens. ~ C A Cafolini

Time is the only critic without ambition. ~ John Steimbeck

[Poppy23]

“Have you ever been in love? Horrible isn’t it? It makes you so vulnerable. It opens your chest and it opens up your heart and it means that someone can get inside you and mess you up. You build up all these defenses, you build up a whole suit of armor, so that nothing can hurt you, then one stupid person, no different from any other stupid person, wanders into your stupid life…You give them a piece of you. They didn’t ask for it. They did something dumb one day, like kiss you or smile at you, and then your life isn’t your own anymore. Love takes hostages. It gets inside you. It eats you out and leaves you crying in the darkness, so simple a phrase like ‘maybe we should be just friends’ turns into a glass splinter working its way into your heart. It hurts. Not just in the imagination. Not just in the mind. It’s a soul-hurt, a real gets-inside-you-and-rips-you-apart pain. I hate love.”
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones

“…”Shhh”, she said. “I`m sleeping.”
Just like that. From a hundred miles an hour to asleep in a nanosecond. I wanted so badly to lie down next to her on the couch, to wrap my arms around her and sleep. Not ****, like in those movies. Not even have sex. Just sleep together, in the most innocent sense of phrase. But I lacked the courage and she had a boyfriend and I was gawky and she was gorgeous and I was hopelessly boring and she was endlessly fascinating. So I walked back to my room and collapsed on the bottom bunk, thinking that people were rain, I was drizzle and she was a hurricane.”

–John Green, Looking for Alaska


“It’s just… I wish it was easier, for me, you know?” I make a special point not to look at her. “I wish it was someone else who was chosen for this. Someone competent. If only I didn’t stop that robbery. I wish I didn’t have to go through with it all.” It comes gushing out, with words like spilled milk. “And I wish it was me with you and not that other guy. I wish it was my own skin touching with yours…”

And there you have it.

Stupidity in its purest form.

“Oh, Ed.” Audrey looks away. “Oh, Ed.”

Our feet dangle.

I watch them, and I watch the jeans on Audrey’s legs.

We only sit there now.

Audrey and me.

And discomfort.

Squeezed in, between us.

She soon says, “You’re my best friend, Ed.”

“I know.”

You can kill a man with those words.

No gun.

No bullets.

Just words and a girl.”

― Markus Zusak, I am the Messenger

“The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.”
― William Shakespeare, As You Like It


“My tongue will tell the anger of my heart, or else my heart concealing it will break.”
― William Shakespeare, The Taming of the Shrew


“My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep; the more I give to thee,
The more I have, for both are infinite.”
― William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet

“When he shall die,
Take him and cut him out in little stars,
And he will make the face of heaven so fine
That all the world will be in love with night
And pay no worship to the garish sun.”
― William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet


“Lord, what fools these mortals be!”
― William Shakespeare, A Midsummer Night's Dream

“thus with a kiss I die”
― William Shakespeare

Stars, hide your fires; Let not light see my black and deep desires. ― William Shakespeare, Macbeth

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The only thing you own is time. You either waste it or you join us in the establishment of conventional units of measurement in order to communicate your whats. hows. wheres. and whens. ~ C A Cafolini

Time is the only critic without ambition. ~ John Steimbeck

[liza]

“Have you ever been in love? Horrible isn’t it? It makes you so vulnerable. It opens your chest and it opens up your heart and it means that someone can get inside you and mess you up. You build up all these defenses, you build up a whole suit of armor, so that nothing can hurt you, then one stupid person, no different from any other stupid person, wanders into your stupid life…You give them a piece of you. They didn’t ask for it. They did something dumb one day, like kiss you or smile at you, and then your life isn’t your own anymore. Love takes hostages. It gets inside you. It eats you out and leaves you crying in the darkness, so simple a phrase like ‘maybe we should be just friends’ turns into a glass splinter working its way into your heart. It hurts. Not just in the imagination. Not just in the mind. It’s a soul-hurt, a real gets-inside-you-and-rips-you-apart pain. I hate love.”
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones

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If any thing you state is ultimately an illusion, what's the point in telling me that? Isn't that also an illusion? Pricking, psychopathic behavior? Who could you kid? ~ C A Cafolini

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The deep, personal material of the latter half of your life is your children. You can write about your parents when they're gone, but your children are still going to be here, and you're going to want them to come and visit you in the nursing home. ~ Alice Munro

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The world has changed so much that the young people must reinvent everything: a way to live together. Institutions, a way of being and of knowing. ~ Michel Serres

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You have to be an SOB to tell somebody what the president can't tell. ~ Leon Panetta

[Spring-heeled J]

I've been a quote freak longer than I care to remember; forever thumbing through my 17th edition of Bartlett's Familiar Quotations in search of sublime and inspirational quotes (good thing it's hardcover.) Here's one that just popped into my head:

It was a brave man who first ate an oyster.
- Jonathan Swift