SMURFS: A Comunist Village

[s.santa]

Have you ever heard about the theory of Smurf used as a means to promote Sovietic Comunism? :banana:

It's kinda odd but once you get to think about it, it sounds very very scary!!!!
Just an example: the smurfs live in village where each smurf is equal to the other, has the same rights and the same duties; they have only one chief (that wears a red cap and look disturbingly like Karl Marx) and can be recognized in relation to their role in the production process. Besides there's no commerce, the product is equally handed out among the smurfs (which haven't a middle-class or a bourgeois class; even sexual discrimination and competition is excluded: there aren't "anathomical" differences except for Smurfette the only female smurf (probably equally divided among the male smurfs...:eek2: ).
There's even the revolutionary Trotskij (Brainy Smurf), Papa Smurf's man Friday, and Capitalism is represented by Gargamel, who wants to turn the smurfs in gold (=work); by the way G's cat has a typical Jew name (see anti semitism)!!!

It has little to do with 1984, but has lots of connections with Socialism Comunism and so on...
What do you think about it?

[NickAdams]

:lol: Sound about right. If each Smurf emodies an idea and how it works in a Communist society, then Vanity is equal to Handy and Greedy?

[s.santa]

:lol: Sound about right. If each Smurf emodies an idea and how it works in a Communist society, then Vanity is equal to Handy and Greedy?

It could be but it's not a theory of mine....just found it on ht e net!

[Oniw17]

Why is that scary?

[s.santa]

Why is that scary?

cause if it's true comunists used (are useing) children to promote their ideologies! let's say, even if it's not properly right, they are corrupting children through cartoons to let them change their own society into a "smurf society". It's the means they use that is scary not the ideas (though I'm not very into Comunism)

[NickAdams]

cause if it's true comunists used (are useing) children to promote their ideologies! let's say, even if it's not properly right, they are corrupting children through cartoons to let them change their own society into a "smurf society". It's the means they use that is scary not the ideas (though I'm not very into Comunism)

The majority of cartoons in the 80's promoted social ideas. Heroism, competition and so forth.

[Oniw17]

cause if it's true comunists used (are useing) children to promote their ideologies! let's say, even if it's not properly right, they are corrupting children through cartoons to let them change their own society into a "smurf society". It's the means they use that is scary not the ideas (though I'm not very into Comunism)

Santa Clause is the same thing for capitalism though; and I'm sure more kids like Samta than those who even know what smurfs are. Even when I was little, very few kids apart from myself knew about smurfs and thundercats and hong kong fooey. Santa is eternal though. And all rich children behave better than poor children obviously.

[crazefest456]

Thunder Cats!!!!

[Chava]

Hmm yeah, infact there was an interesting article in my regular paper the other day, stating that the bible promoted violence, (David throws rocks at goliath, and so forth) but please mate, take it with a grain and salt. Do you feel particularily influenced by the little blue men?
Anyway, i can't see whats scary about a program that promotes equality, and encourages people to share. aren't those principals we try to teach kids anyway? when was the last time you told your kids that they were better than everybody else, or even told them not to share?

[s.santa]

Hmm yeah, infact there was an interesting article in my regular paper the other day, stating that the bible promoted violence, (David throws rocks at goliath, and so forth) but please mate, take it with a grain and salt. Do you feel particularily influenced by the little blue men?
Anyway, i can't see whats scary about a program that promotes equality, and encourages people to share. aren't those principals we try to teach kids anyway? when was the last time you told your kids that they were better than everybody else, or even told them not to share?

Of course I'm not influenced by Smurfs(else I would have to paint my face blue and wear a white funny hat:p ). I just found the whole theory v. scary if it's true, and frankly odd in general.
anyway I see nothing scary in a society where there isn't a conception of "special", where there's cultural flatness: what if Shakespeare was born in a comunist country? He would probably have been hanged or something for being a genius! in communism equality is so stressed that being different (read: better, cleverer, talented, gifted) is a crime. In 1984, for example, the comrades aren't even allowed to write books, that are written by machines!

for this particular aspect read "Wild Swans" if you can....it's an autobiography set in China during Mao Tse Tung; the writer is a woman, and she has always been very good at writing. One day she wrote a poem and they obliged her to make it in pieces and to throw it in the toilet!!! Why? because she wasn't allowed to be different! So this is what you teach to your children? not to be themselves? What I'd teach my children is not to share but to deserve to do their best and to be careful to be paid for it. What's the point of trying so hard when others do nothing and get their equal part of what everybody produces?

[Chava]

I'm not a communist. I believe in equality and individuality. I was merely commenting on your projection earlier, where it seemed you managed to sound as if you opposed the idea of equality, though i doubt that was your intention :)
Naturally conditons like those of 1984, or Mao's china are appaling and should not be enforced upon anybody. Cheers mate

[s.santa]

I'm not a communist. I believe in equality and individuality. I was merely commenting on your projection earlier, where it seemed you managed to sound as if you opposed the idea of equality, though i doubt that was your intention :)
Naturally conditons like those of 1984, or Mao's china are appaling and should not be enforced upon anybody. Cheers mate

oops! iìm sorry if i sounded polemic, it's not i was attacking you mate! it's just my way of speaking, sorry if i sound like an old acidic spinster:p ....uh maybe i am.....
ok btw glad to know your not a communist, neither a fascist i suppose, but even if i'm risking to sound anti-liberal, i prefer a fascist dictatorship instead of a communist one....(now i suppose they'll track my computer until they will find me and hang me!:sick: )

[motherhubbard]

Here is the problem with the theory.

I remember the Smurfs very well, I was in the 3rd grade with the craze hit. One boy in my class bought all of the Smurfs and their houses and was allowed to set the village up on a table in the back of the classroom, actually it took two tables. Many of the cartoons from that time were created to sell toys, videos, games, sleeping bags, plates, shirts and other character related merchandise. Strawberry Shortcake and The Care Bears are just two examples of the goldmine. While you did draw some funny correlations between the Smurf village and communism, it was all about capitalism. And it was capitalism that was thinly disguised as a show with some social or moral message for children.

[s.santa]

Here is the problem with the theory.

I remember the Smurfs very well, I was in the 3rd grade with the craze hit. One boy in my class bought all of the Smurfs and their houses and was allowed to set the village up on a table in the back of the classroom, actually it took two tables. Many of the cartoons from that time were created to sell toys, videos, games, sleeping bags, plates, shirts and other character related merchandise. Strawberry Shortcake and The Care Bears are just two examples of the goldmine. While you did draw some funny correlations between the Smurf village and communism, it was all about capitalism. And it was capitalism that was thinly disguised as a show with some social or moral message for children.

Comunism promoted by Capitalism? unlikely

[Oniw17]

Comunism promoted by Capitalism? unlikely

I think that was what was being said.

[motherhubbard]

Comunism promoted by Capitalism? unlikely

that was my point.