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PrinceMyshkin
11-21-2007, 11:24 AM
Touch is the noun and verb of the heart.
Not all the words that you or I
can murmur, sing or shout
-–hoarse with eloquence, mad
with truth--words that beseech
or beckon or command,
can equal the touch,
in passing, of a friendly hand.
J. Newman copyright 2006
Sweets America
11-21-2007, 12:07 PM
This is a sweet poem, Jer. I agree with it, I mean, most of the times, the unsaid is stronger than every word we could say. There is more to say than what oral language enables us to communicate. A hug can tell a lot, or even a quick glance. This part was interesting to me:
hoarse with eloquence, mad
with truth
I cannot explain how I feel about it right now, but there is a strength in those words. Makes me think of how we struggle sometimes to express something, and the other doesn't quite understand what we intended to say. And in that case, silence and gestures may help.
I like the rhythm of the three last lines, too.
TheFifthElement
11-22-2007, 05:32 AM
This has a lovely rhythm and some nice well disguised rhymes. Touch is a wonderful thing isn't it? Of all the senses it seems to be the one we could least live without.
PrinceMyshkin
11-22-2007, 08:57 AM
This has a lovely rhythm and some nice well disguised rhymes. Touch is a wonderful thing isn't it? Of all the senses it seems to be the one we could least live without.
Thank you. In view of your privately stated aversion to didacticism in general, and my own tendencies in that direction, I like to think that I CAN be didactic so long as I do it with a measure of music, wit or farce. In the end I hope the energy is at least as important as the lesson per se.
ampoule
11-22-2007, 09:12 AM
But touch is the one sense we most live without.
I love this poem Prince.
TheFifthElement
11-22-2007, 09:27 AM
But touch is the one sense we most live without.
This isn't so ampoule, we touch all the time - not necessarily human touch.
There was a study recently which was reported on the BBC whereby it was said that people need something like 8 hugs a day in order to maintain emotional wellbeing. It's no wonder people are so sad.
Thank you. In view of your privately stated aversion to didacticism in general, and my own tendencies in that direction, I like to think that I CAN be didactic so long as I do it with a measure of music, wit or farce. In the end I hope the energy is at least as important as the lesson per se.
You can be as didactic as you like ;) I always think that we write first to please ourselves, and secondly to please others. I enjoyed this poem - some things need to be said.
PrinceMyshkin
11-22-2007, 09:28 AM
But touch is the one sense we most live without.
I love this poem Prince.
Thank you, so do I - as a woman might be predisposed to love a child who was born of an almost effortless delivery.
There are those poems that we kvetch over with all the craft and intelligence we can muster, and those - like this one - that seem to be written to us rather than by us...
Maybe that's the sub-text of little Jack Horner!
PrinceMyshkin
11-22-2007, 12:45 PM
This is a sweet poem, Jer. I agree with it, I mean, most of the times, the unsaid is stronger than every word we could say. There is more to say than what oral language enables us to communicate. A hug can tell a lot, or even a quick glance. This part was interesting to me:
hoarse with eloquence, mad
with truth
I cannot explain how I feel about it right now, but there is a strength in those words. Makes me think of how we struggle sometimes to express something, and the other doesn't quite understand what we intended to say. And in that case, silence and gestures may help.
I like the rhythm of the three last lines, too.
I deeply appreciate what you say, dearest, and there is a good deal that I cannot say to you right now!
Sweets America
11-22-2007, 12:51 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :D :D :D
Thanks for the effort, Sweetie, I appreciate it! ;)
ampoule
11-22-2007, 07:36 PM
This isn't so ampoule, we touch all the time - not necessarily human touch.
There was a study recently which was reported on the BBC whereby it was said that people need something like 8 hugs a day in order to maintain emotional wellbeing. It's no wonder people are so sad.
But that's what I was referring to, human touch, as in person to person. I agree with you that there are other kinds of touch and I have also heard the study you mention and I believe it has great merit. I don't get 8 hugs a week, let alone 8 a day, and I know there are others who get even less, maybe none. When I visit at nursing homes, I always try to touch the arm or shoulder of the person I'm talking to, maybe even squeeze their hand gently.
And then they pick up their canes and beat me. lol Just kidding. But even the touch of laughter is important.
Wow Prince. Your poem has put me in a very thoughtful mood.
PrinceMyshkin
11-22-2007, 08:23 PM
Wow Prince. Your poem has put me in a very thoughtful mood.
I'm moved to hear that! I'm an inveterate forearm toucher when speaking with people, and when they - esp. a woman - do it in return, I go squirrely!
TheFifthElement
11-23-2007, 07:51 AM
But that's what I was referring to, human touch, as in person to person. I agree with you that there are other kinds of touch and I have also heard the study you mention and I believe it has great merit. I don't get 8 hugs a week, let alone 8 a day, and I know there are others who get even less, maybe none. When I visit at nursing homes, I always try to touch the arm or shoulder of the person I'm talking to, maybe even squeeze their hand gently.
And then they pick up their canes and beat me. lol Just kidding. But even the touch of laughter is important.
Wow Prince. Your poem has put me in a very thoughtful mood.
Oh, but this is sad ampoule :(
I am not particularly tactile with people in general (it's not done here!) but with my children very much so. I think they fill my quota - goodness knows what I'll do when they're all grown up.
Anyway, I can't have this! I'm sending you a virtual hug, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another...there that's todays quota covered :D
PrinceMyshkin
11-23-2007, 08:51 AM
Oh, but this is sad ampoule :(
I am not particularly tactile with people in general (it's not done here!)
Not done! Not by many, not easily, but... Who is to say that you may not do it if you choose to? There might be a flinch or two, a backward step, countless widened eyes or raised eyebrows, but... perhaps everyone has been waiting for that one fellow citizen who might, finally do it, and then the one who has been touched might just turn around and touch the next two or three Brits he or she came in contact with and then thet... and soon the whole of the United Kingdom might be engaged in a veritable orgy of touching and no work would get done that day. Amen! Selah!
ampoule
11-23-2007, 08:57 AM
http://drlauriemoore.com/images/CatsHugging.jpg
Thank you Fifth! :D I didn't mean to make you feel sad. I got some nice hugs yesterday from my sons.
Yes, children are great.
mazHur
11-23-2007, 09:41 AM
Unlike other living things who feel through other senses,Touch is the only thing humans have to figure out love.
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