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soccerchick21
11-15-2007, 08:37 PM
I am confused with Winston and his wife. I think I understand that his wife left him because they couldn't have a baby together or she just didn't want to with him. But, seeing as how Winston is having a sexual relationship with Julia, will he get in trouble? And why would he if he did? If Winston and his wife are split then why shouldn't he be able to have a sexual realtionship with anyone he wants? Is it just because your not supposed to have these feelings about other people? PLEASE HELP! :crash:

Granny5
11-15-2007, 08:51 PM
Well, he's going to die anyway because of his thoughts so why not have a relationship?? I think that's the least of his worries.

The Atheist
11-15-2007, 09:05 PM
I am confused with Winston and his wife. I think I understand that his wife left him because they couldn't have a baby together or she just didn't want to with him. But, seeing as how Winston is having a sexual relationship with Julia, will he get in trouble? And why would he if he did? If Winston and his wife are split then why shouldn't he be able to have a sexual realtionship with anyone he wants? Is it just because your not supposed to have these feelings about other people? PLEASE HELP! :crash:

You really need to finish the book before answering these questions!

;)

nerdyarmadillo
11-19-2007, 08:22 PM
Well, why would Winston suddenly want sexual relations with a (to the Thought Police) random girl from the office? It would seem highly suspicious, it would be noticed by higher authorities very quickly if they were less discreet about it. People would start looking into the matter, and, you will have noticed by now, the number one rule for survival in this book is to keep as low a profile as possible.

He and his wife split, yes, but to split to go off with another woman shows that you have feelings and emotions! Why shouldn't he be content to have sexual relations with his wife? Yes, his wife hated it, and he hated her for hating it, but that isn't a problem to the Thought Police, so it should not have bothered him.

Also, think about the Anti-Sex League; it's frowned upon, unless you're trying to have a baby, and since most woman were artificially inseminated, then there would really be no point in his relationship with Julia; which meant that they were performing a treasonous act.

deerhoof
11-20-2007, 10:38 AM
Nerdyarmadillo, I dont think you have read very far into the book. Its hard to exaplin what is happening if you dont read the whole book.

Not only did could Winston and his wife not have a baby, they were too different. All Katherine cared about was their duty to the party. Winston wanted someone to trust and to hold and care for....aka, to love.

I dont think you understand why Big Brother disaproves on love. you can only have love for Big Brother, and if you waste your time and energy on loving something besides Big Brother, than that is a danger to the government (BB).

It is a problem that they are having this relationship. Julia would be found guilty of lying about the Junior-AntiSex League. And what they are engaging in is not "their duty" to the party, it is a downright politcal act of rebellion. And if they loved eachother, it would be an even worse situation. Big Brother doesnt want people to love. The society is different, becuse you have to imagine people not looking at love when they get married, but looking at it as a means to reproduce. And no baby could ever come from Julia and Winston, he says it himself, so then there is no point in them getting married, and it would be very suspicious.

Granny5
11-20-2007, 10:52 AM
You really need to finish the book before answering these questions!

;)

I'm sorry, but was your response directed at me? If so, I might have not read the question correctly, but I have read the book a number of times. I feel you've made an assumption about something you know nothing about. Maybe it would have been better to say, "You really need to read the question and make sure you understand what if being asked before answering these questions."

The Atheist
11-20-2007, 04:49 PM
I'm sorry, but was your response directed at me?

Eh?

I copied the OP quote into my post to make it obvious who I was talking to.

Given the complexity of the book, I think it's a bit pointless talking about it before it's finished and the OP writer appeared to be in that state. You can't really discuss what happens after any point in the book without giving away what comes next.

Granny5
11-20-2007, 05:12 PM
Eh?

I copied the OP quote into my post to make it obvious who I was talking to.

Given the complexity of the book, I think it's a bit pointless talking about it before it's finished and the OP writer appeared to be in that state. You can't really discuss what happens after any point in the book without giving away what comes next.

Sorry, I misunderstood who your post was directed at. You are right, though. If the book hasn't been finished, why ask? I always thought that everything was answered in the story.