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Pendragon
10-28-2007, 11:12 AM
The Chicken or Egg Dilemma (Is Breakfast Ready?)

Chicken or egg the question remains,
Which of the two had to come first?
For if it were the chick would someone explain
Exactly how the bird had its day of birth?
And if we switch the thing round in favor of egg,
A new sort of question arises:
What sort of creature was it that laid
A nest full of clucking surprises?
Was it chicken, then egg, or t'other way 'round,
Will we ever really know and should we try?
Is a question like this so absolutely profound?
Must we always know the hows and the why?
As for me: I like chicken, baked, broiled, or fried.
My eggs over lightly, or scrambled; or an omelet is fine.

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Pendragon
© 6/3/2006

mazHur
10-28-2007, 12:01 PM
Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

This question is often asked, but rarely answered.
Chickens come from eggs, and eggs come from chickens.
You just can't say which came first, can you?
The purpose of asking the question is
usually to show that it is difficult to determine
the origins of things.
A feud between two families, or even two countries,
can go on for generations
and it is impossible to attribute it to any one event
:or action.
Rising prices can be caused by workers
demanding more money,
but the workers demand the money because of the rising prices.
Another 'chicken and egg' situation.


But to get back to the chicken,
biology is in fact in a position to answer the question.
We are all different from our parents.
If you trace the ancestry of a humble chicken back through history
and pre-history,
tracing family trees, tracking down that elusive great-grandparent,
you will eventually reach a point
where the bird concerned can not be called a chicken.
If you go back far enough,
it is not even a bird.
(Remember, the ancestors of birds were a type of reptile).
So there must be a point where the chicken baby had
two non-chicken parents.
Let's call them protochickens.
The protochicken mother laid an egg out of which hatched a chicken.
The first chicken came from an egg,
but that egg did not come from a chicken;
it came from a protochicken.


The answer to the question is therefore:

The egg came first.
Source:BBC

for more go to this link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A2116577

gothic
10-28-2007, 12:21 PM
:) pen,your poem's altogether humorous and thought-provoking.the last two lines seemed really adorable

The 'chicken or egg dilemma' is an ancient one,over which innumerable heads've been scratched to baldness since philosophy started its voyage:p well,my question is if the question if we should ever brood over questions like this is ponderable anymore,'cause a quest is like a river,set out to reach its ultimate destiny,the sea,and destined to flow till it does so.and again numerous questions arise from there,raining down on us, causing the river flow with full new spirit and us scratching our head...:p

just my own thought,nothing else.

ampoule
10-28-2007, 02:26 PM
Not to start any kind of religious frenzy here, but for any of you chaps or chappesses who are literal, I don't think the bible mentions creating eggs but it does mention creating animals. POW! ZAP! There they were. ;)

I like your poem Pen. I had a cheese omelette this very morning! Yum.

AimusSage
10-28-2007, 02:35 PM
The egg was there first because in the morning I had some nice eggs for breakfast, and in the evening, I had some nice chicken for dinner. :)

In my little world, I raise a new question, what came between the egg and the chicken? What on earth did I have for lunch? ::confused:

Another good one Pen. :thumbs_up

ampoule
10-28-2007, 02:36 PM
The egg was there first because in the morning I had some nice eggs for breakfast, and in the evening, I had some nice chicken for dinner. :)

In my little world, I raise a new question, what came between the egg and the chicken? What on earth did I have for lunch? ::confused:

Another good one Pen. :thumbs_up

I love it Aimus!! :D Your question is much more important! ;)

p.s. Is that your puppy on your profile?

firefangled
10-28-2007, 02:44 PM
Pen, I think you settled this nicely in the last two lines. As for me, I like the old song, "Chicken is nice with palm butter and rice."

AimusSage
10-28-2007, 02:48 PM
p.s. Is that your puppy on your profile?
Nope, that's my dog that died about one and a half month ago after some of the nervous tissue in his neck suddenly died off, leaving him almost completely paralysed. He was no puppy though, almost 8 years old. Died a few days before his b-day. Very sad and all that. :)

mazHur
10-28-2007, 03:13 PM
Neither chicken nor the egg, first came the Male, angels pulled out one of his ribs and converted into a female. This way the world began and 'eggs' began to come in and in and on !

ampoule
10-28-2007, 04:10 PM
Nope, that's my dog that died about one and a half month ago after some of the nervous tissue in his neck suddenly died off, leaving him almost completely paralysed. He was no puppy though, almost 8 years old. Died a few days before his b-day. Very sad and all that. :)

I am so sorry about your puppy. I call all beloved dogs puppies. I lost my Siouxsie last year, a black lab mix. She was 16. I miss her so. :(

mazHur
10-28-2007, 04:17 PM
How sad , these poor lovely dogs !

barbara0207
10-28-2007, 05:38 PM
Before this is converted into a dog thread :D:

Very funny, Pen! :lol:

Picture
10-28-2007, 07:36 PM
What came first the chicken or the egg?



Well the chicken and the egg were lying in bed. While the chicken lit up a smoke he told the egg thanks. The egg just rolled over mumbling, I guess we answered that question.:blush:

ampoule
10-28-2007, 08:40 PM
Before this is converted into a dog thread :D:

Very funny, Pen! :lol:

You are right Barbara. Sorry Pen.
Once again, I liked it. ;)

Pendragon
10-29-2007, 10:07 AM
Thanks, everyone. That was the purpose of the poem to be funny. Always laugh, because the world will laugh with you. Cry and you usually cry alone.

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mazHur
10-29-2007, 10:09 AM
would you please stop dangling your chainsaw? It frightens the little ones! lol

NikolaiI
11-04-2007, 02:52 AM
If you think you're alone when you cry, then you are alone when you laugh, too. True friends are there for you when you cry, and wouldn't desert you just for that reason. Although that's not what I wanted to post; this is a great poem, Pen, but I have to answer...or question...isn't this a question of evolution? ([I] Forget what your stance is, but) if it is, then what came before both was an underwater scorpion and all sorts of nasty flesh eating fish, and before that more fish, etc., and on down the line. It takes millions of years for the small, gradual changes in evolution. Nothing terribly unique about chickens or eggs; it's just one animals way of reproducing. What came first, the horrible, ungodly, unknown monstrosity-fish from the depths of the ocean that we've never heard about, or it's equally horrible, god-forsaken spawn/offspring? Doesn't make much difference between eggs and live birth, since a live birth comes from an egg as well.

mazHur
11-04-2007, 10:11 AM
IF a child could be the father of the Man, then why not egg be the ancestor of chicken? Why, don't we still find Dinosaur eggs on earth? The eggies sparked life into chickens and then chickens 'repaid' them with 'more eggies'' and themselves were sent to butchers! lol

It is thought first then a word, a phrase, a sentence and then a poem!

Pendragon
11-04-2007, 11:16 AM
Good Goobledy Goo! I write a humourous poem and touch off a debate. If you wanna debate the issue, we closed the subject after a very long debate, longest ever on LitNet, in the Religious Text section. I'm writing humor! http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/AbsalomKane/Four/Hello.gif

Alien Invasion

They came from beyond the bright, shining stars;
From the planet D’vork, the land of their birth—
Traveling with a technology that was uniquely theirs
To the tiny blue speck that we know as “Earth”.
They moved into orbit around our small world,
And spied on us with their scanners and scopes.
From the mountains to the depths of the oceans they scoured—
Now dashing expectations; now raising new hopes.
They even swooped down on nights damp and muddy
And hovered in the tree line, just out of sight.
In the hope of capturing new specimens to study
And return in the concealing hours of the night.
All of this to answer a question that their scholars had often discussed:
“See! I told you man didn’t evolve from us!”

Dale Harris
© 10/26/96

Published in Pablo Lenis Magazine. Their right to reprint recognized.