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hanafy
10-19-2007, 03:20 PM
heloo everybody i want from you a summary or analysis to these poems and i thank you very much
1. the canonization by JOHN Donne
2. to his love
3. sonnet 65 to shakespeare
4.good morrow and death be not proud


thank you very much for well done

AimusSage
10-19-2007, 03:32 PM
Perhaps you could enlighten us a little more on the chosen poems. Share your own views, perhaps we could assist you in your own analysis.

hanafy
10-19-2007, 03:41 PM
forgive me but i realy want thses poems in order to revise it on my exam and i realy want to disccusse and to share with my opinon and analysing the poems so help me for getting me the analysis

Niamh
10-19-2007, 04:25 PM
We cant help you if you dont explain to us what exactly you need to know regarding these poems.
Why dont you google these poems and see if you can get some info from Wiki, or sites about John Donnes poetry. I'm assuming they are all John Donne Poems?
I know the Canonization, The Good Morrow and Death be not proud are definitely all John Donne Poems, but i cant find the other two in my complete John Donne. Do you mean Sonnet 65 By Shakespeare? and what of To His Love?

Virgil
10-19-2007, 07:58 PM
heloo everybody i want from you a summary or analysis to these poems and i thank you very much
1. the canonization by JOHN Donne
2. to his love
3. sonnet 65 to shakespeare
4.good morrow and death be not proud


thank you very much for well done

You want? Well, keep wanting. :D

Petrarch's Love
10-19-2007, 10:02 PM
Hanafy--We will not do your work for you. However, if you post the way you have analyzed these poems yourself and a few very specific questions about what confuses you in the poems (if possible point to something in a particular line or word you don't understand), then possibly people may be able to help you make your analysis better. We have to see that you're doing the work though.

Why don't you pick the poem that you're having most trouble with and tell us what you are getting out of it.

ktd222
10-20-2007, 04:00 AM
I'm gonna take a shot at knocking out number 3 for you.

Sonnet LXV

Since brass, nor stone, nor earth, nor boundless sea,
But sad mortality o'er-sways their power,
How with this rage shall beauty hold a plea,
Whose action is no stronger than a flower?
O, how shall summer's honey breath hold out
Against the wreckful siege of battering days,
When rocks impregnable are not so stout,
Nor gates of steel so strong, but Time decays?
O fearful meditation! where, alack,
Shall Time's best jewel from Time's chest lie hid?
Or what strong hand can hold his swift foot back?
Or who his spoil of beauty can forbid?
O, none, unless this miracle have might,
That in black ink my love may still shine bright.

Shakespeare

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How can we justify beauty as everlasting, especially against Time. Time has the strength to decay even the most powerful steel, stone, earth structures. On the other hand beauty may be dazzling to look at, as a flower, but will decay much in the same way as a flower will wilt once its lifecycle comes to a close; and beauty may be as sweet as a flower’s scent, but that scent will disappear with the appearance of the slightest breeze of wind; and that same slight breeze of wind will cause the flower to sway, which is the degree of fragility beauty is compared to having. Although these realizations about beauty are sorrowful ones for the speaker, there is hope. This hope comes in the form of love. That even though beauty will run its course and die out, love will remain.

Hobbes
10-11-2009, 03:40 PM
Good morrow
by John Donne

I WONDER by my troth, what thou and I
Did, till we loved ? were we not wean'd till then ?
But suck'd on country pleasures, childishly ?
Or snorted we in the Seven Sleepers' den ?
'Twas so ; but this, all pleasures fancies be ;
If ever any beauty I did see,
Which I desired, and got, 'twas but a dream of thee.

And now good-morrow to our waking souls,
Which watch not one another out of fear ;
For love all love of other sights controls,
And makes one little room an everywhere.
Let sea-discoverers to new worlds have gone ;
Let maps to other, worlds on worlds have shown ;
Let us possess one world ; each hath one, and is one.

My face in thine eye, thine in mine appears,
And true plain hearts do in the faces rest ;
Where can we find two better hemispheres
Without sharp north, without declining west ?
Whatever dies, was not mix'd equally ;
If our two loves be one, or thou and I
Love so alike that none can slacken, none can die.

Analysis:
Two lovers in bed. 1 waking in the morning (also waking into consiousness of Life's importance). Both, never really apreciated life before this and were childish with what life had to offer. (Seven sleepers den)- I think it is a religious allusion to children hiding in a cave and falling into hibernation for a long time. Before her(or him) the speaker thought a ll pleasures where mere whims.

Both are in love and they are not afraid because love will keep their eyes on each other. (2 allusions are made) 1 rennaisance and discovery of new worlds. 2 is a little out there, but there is an obsolete idea that within every person there is a world, each is seperate. So.. he is saying that while those explorers voyage to new worlds, the two lovers are sharing each other's and are content with their fixed place in the world.

Then both are staring into each other's eyes, two perfect and flawless spheres where we can see love clearly. People who are "in love" and die, do not really love with such intensity because they want to stay with the other for as long as possible or not be sick to not appreciate.

Well, that's my analysis, maybe a little too late for any reports, sorry.

P.S. People can get a little defensive of teachers when they assume you're fudging a report. but they aren't the ones doing the assignment