Plutonic Love,,,A Sonnet

[mazHur]

Plutonic Love,,,A Sonnet
by Mazhar Butt


Plutus, did you give this ugly mental twist to love,
The twist which people call Plutonic love?
Shame on you if you disfigured love purposely
Shame on them who hide their faces in this fantastic cove.
Oh, how do people derogate this godly gift of living love
Oh, how they try to make it a contemptuous graded thing
Oh, how they try to outstretch a rose of its beauty and fragrance
Oh, how they make time-old wine taste unintoxicating.
Love, pure love is an adjunct to the mode of procreation
Without love no man no woman would consent to conjoin
Teeth would be bone if not pressed, nuts pebbles if not cracked
Hearts without love will not sigh, souls will not calm purloin
Plutonic love is an absurdity, an unnatural variant of love
Love, real love is that which exists betwixt a drake and his dove.

[Virgil]

Maz, this is quite good. Just a question. I've heard of Platonic love, but Plutonic love is quite an original notion, and one that fits in some relationships. Did you mean Platonic or do you really mean Plutonic?

[mazHur]

Maz, this is quite good. Just a question. I've heard of Platonic love, but Plutonic love is quite an original notion, and one that fits in some relationships. Did you mean Platonic or do you really mean Plutonic?

thanks for your comments
you definitely pose a good question. I think both plutonic and platonic are interchangeable words having almost the same meaning. At first I used platonic love but one of my critics objected to it saying love has nothing to do with plato and is rather concerned with Hades. Consequently, I had to refer to some literature on it but culdn't find a distinct separating line between the two.
So, I opted for Plutonic love. If you have better idea about the hierarchy of love
please let me share your thoughts.

and yes, Virgil, i'am a grown up man, not a cutie, which please note!

[manolia]

I think you are mixing Plato with Plutos, mazhur. Plutos (Πλούτος) was the god of wealth.

[mazHur]

Hi Manolia

here is an excerpt from wickipedia relecting on Pluto

Pluto is an alternative name for the Greek god Hades, but was more often used in Roman mythology in their presentation of the god of the underworld. He abducted Proserpina (Gr. Persephone), and her mother Ceres (Gr. Demeter) who then caused winter in her grief. Although he is often envisioned today as evil (for his similarities to the Christian Satan) the Romans did not view him as such.

Pluto was originally not the god of the underworld. Pluto is cognate with the Greek word "Psloutas" (wealth, cf. plutocracy), and, under the original name Plutus, was considersed by the Romans as the giver of gold, silver, and other subterranean substances. Because these "gifts" were mined, Pluto became recognized as the god of the physical underworld, which in turn helped him become recognized as the god of the spiritual underworld and thus death. This brought about his mythological relationship to the Greek god Hades. Because the mythology of these gods is more known than the actual religious roles of the gods, Pluto is identified as the counterpart to the Greek Hades (which is only wholly true in mythology).

The dwarf planet Pluto is named after him.''


best

[Virgil]

thanks for your comments
you definitely pose a good question. I think both plutonic and platonic are interchangeable words having almost the same meaning. At first I used platonic love but one of my critics objected to it saying love has nothing to do with plato and is rather concerned with Hades. Consequently, I had to refer to some literature on it but culdn't find a distinct separating line between the two.
So, I opted for Plutonic love. If you have better idea about the hierarchy of love
please let me share your thoughts.

and yes, Virgil, i'am a grown up man, not a cutie, which please note!

Well, there is a distinction between Platonic and Plutonic. Actually your poem would be so much more original if you went with Plutonic Love, as love based on money.

[manolia]

I didn't say Pluto (who by the way in greek is Pluton) i said Plutos who was the god of wealth ;)
Hehe i know very well who Pluton was ;)

EDIT

Pluton was the god of the underworld. The underworld -the place- was called Hades (Άδης)

[mazHur]

Well, there is a distinction between Platonic and Plutonic. Actually your poem would be so much more original if you went with Plutonic Love, as love based on money.

i agree with you.
here is another citation on plutonic ( opportunistic love) and platonic (love without sex):

Plutonic Love
Meaning: Love that gets devalued because of change in circumstances.
Pronounciation: Easy
Usage: In a tragic case of plutonic love, as soon as the girl heard that her fiance had lost his job, she agreed to annul the engagement and look for a new hubby.
Root: Platonic Love + Pluto (which was devalued from a planet to an asteroid)


love!

[mazHur]

you seem to be correct as far as mythological interpretations go

[SleepyWitch]

nice poem, MazHur.
do you mean the word plutonic is a blend from Pluto and platonic. like you get smog from smoke and fog or infotainment from information+ entertainment?
so the word formation fuses the two words into one and makes it hard to tell which parts of the words came from 'platonic' and which from 'Pluto'?

[manolia]

Yes the poem is nice :) (didn't say that earlier)

but, at least i, the only noun i know that goes with plutonic is rock as in "plutonic rocks" :p

[mazHur]

nice poem, MazHur.
do you mean the word plutonic is a blend from Pluto and platonic. like you get smog from smoke and fog or infotainment from information+ entertainment?
so the word formation fuses the two words into one and makes it hard to tell which parts of the words came from 'platonic' and which from 'Pluto'?

thanks a lot, SweetWitch,,,,,Oh, SleepyWitch. Yeah, let me say this is 'blended wine'' of two kinds of love.
cheers

[mazHur]

Thank you, Manolia, for your appreciation.
best wishes

[blazeofglory]

Plutonic Love,,,A Sonnet
by Mazhar Butt


Plutus, did you give this ugly mental twist to love,
The twist which people call Plutonic love?
Shame on you if you disfigured love purposely
Shame on them who hide their faces in this fantastic cove.
Oh, how do people derogate this godly gift of living love
Oh, how they try to make it a contemptuous graded thing
Oh, how they try to outstretch a rose of its beauty and fragrance
Oh, how they make time-old wine taste unintoxicating.
Love, pure love is an adjunct to the mode of procreation
Without love no man no woman would consent to conjoin
Teeth would be bone if not pressed, nuts pebbles if not cracked
Hearts without love will not sigh, souls will not calm purloin
Plutonic love is an absurdity, an unnatural variant of love
Love, real love is that which exists betwixt a drake and his dove.

Love is like a river that cleans you of your dirts,
For like a river it always flows on and on to be submerged

Of course love too is a dynamic force
It conjoins disparate and desperate souls

Love is something like a candle
It gives light but uses up itself in giving
For true love empties itself
In the process of filling some one's bowel

Love is like the morning' s dew
It satiates thirsted plants
and loses it self to others' satisfaction

Beauty is beauty because there is a potion of love
Creation goes on and on becuase love backs it up
Without love, the love of your poem
I would not have penned these lines
For love alone gets us together

[mazHur]

Love is like a river that cleans you of your dirts,
For like a river it always flows on and on to be submerged

Of course love too is a dynamic force
It conjoins disparate and desperate souls

Love is something like a candle
It gives light but uses up itself in giving
For true love empties itself
In the process of filling some one's bowel

Love is like the morning' s dew
It satiates thirsted plants
and loses it self to others' satisfaction

Beauty is beauty because there is a potion of love
Creation goes on and on becuase love backs it up
Without love, the love of your poem
I would not have penned these lines
For love alone gets us together

great thoughts. I take it as a compliment. thanks