End of the Period.

[Lote-Tree]

Science has discovered a way to end a women's period using a pill.

Has science gone mad?

If you are a women - would you take it?

It will mean end of PMT.

Would that be a good thing?

Perhaps more harmonious male female relationships? :D

[LadyWentworth]

If it isn't medically necessary, why would I take it?

Honestly, I think science is getting a little carried away now with trying to change Mother Nature's plans.

[bazarov]

Thank you God I am a male!

[stephofthenight]

*giggles* notice no one chose they love there period...gets in the way a lot. aslways comes at the WORST times...

[Themis]

*giggles* notice no one chose they love there period...gets in the way a lot. aslways comes at the WORST times...

Oh, well. I agree but it's always a good excuse why I've just gained weight. (And why it will all go away real soon. ;) )

[LadyWentworth]

aslways comes at the WORST times... True! :mad:

Still wouldn't want to take it, though. After all, there is always the chance that I will want to have kids someday. This, I am assuming, would be affecting a person in that sense, too, wouldn't it?

[Lote-Tree]

If it isn't medically necessary, why would I take it?


Monthly blood outing is not healthy for a women says the researchers.

[Niamh]

Its a nusaunce but it reminds me i'm a woman!:p

[barbara0207]

After all, there is always the chance that I will want to have kids someday. This, I am assuming, would be affecting a person in that sense, too, wouldn't it?

No, it doesn't. Over here doctors have been using injections of that kind for a while, and quite a lot of young women take them. If they made them infertile, these injections would be forbidden. You get an injection every three months, and there will be no period. Stop the injections and after some time you can conceive again. No harm done. I hear that women are enthusiastic. Suddenly they feel free, in a way.

[LadyWentworth]

Monthly blood outing is not healthy for a women says the researchers.

Really? News to me! Women managed to survive for thousands of years before this discovery.

Well, as I have always said, the world can do whatever they want. I will not mess with Mother Nature more than I have to.

[Niamh]

Monthly blood outing is not healthy for a women says the researchers.

What a load of coswollop! where do these people get their concepts from! I mean dont they realise that if a woman concieves that blood gives a baby life? Are they going to tell us next that men dont need sperm to concieve?:rolleyes:

[Lote-Tree]

Really? News to me! Women managed to survive for thousands of years before this discovery.


Not just thousands of years but millions of years :D



Well, as I have always said, the world can do whatever they want. I will not mess with Mother Nature more than I have to.

But sadly we are messing with mother nature all the time. Every time someone goes for IVF is messing with mother nature...

[Niamh]

Really? News to me! Women managed to survive for thousands of years before this discovery.

Well, as I have always said, the world can do whatever they want. I will not mess with Mother Nature more than I have to.

neither would I!

[Shalot]

I would totally do it. Next time I go to the doctor and I am going to ask for it. I am a good candidate for it. Kids aren't gonna happen for me. There's a remote possibilty but if things continue on their present course, then I won't be having kids. And I don't want to.

I have a hard time with it. It keeps me up all night. The pain starts in the center and radiates down to my toes. I've got some meds but they don't do a lot for me. And it's not like I can call in to work either. I just have to go and try to concentrate through it and be nice and it sucks!!

[Oniw17]

I've only read the OP, but that sounds unhealthy.

[Niamh]

I hate it when people ring in sick to work cause they have their period. I dont see it as a valid excuse as i'm also a woman and know what its like have have to just deal with it every month!

[Lote-Tree]

I hate it when people ring in sick to work cause they have their period. I dont see it as a valid excuse as i'm also a woman and know what its like have have to just deal with it every month!

PMT Drives some women quite mad...

[barbara0207]

Lote is right. Biologists/doctors say that women were not meant to bleed that often. At the beginning of homo sapiens' evolution women were pregnant much more often and then died an early death (as far as I know the avarage age was about thirty). Bleeding every month is not healthy, but of course, women cope, though many of them suffer a lot.

And I can't understand the argument of 'messing with mother nature'. We do it all the time. We take pain killers, heart medication, have our teeth replaced, go by car or plane although mother nature meant us to walk - I could find hundreds of examples.

Concerning infertility - I mentioned above that the injection (or pill) does not make a woman infertile. You just have to stop taking it.

[Shalot]

there is a huge period industry. bet they're lobbying against it.

[Virgil]

Monthly blood outing is not healthy for a women says the researchers.

I'm not sure if that is true Lote. Some have speculated that women have a reduced incident of heart disease until after menopause bcause of a monthly period. I saw on TV a doctor who speculated that a monthly blood donation might accomplish the same for men. Not sure of the logic. Perhaps less blood eases the stress on the heart. I have not seen any real study on this, but women do have decreased heart disease until after menopause.

[Mortis Anarchy]

I think the one thing I can't stand about being a women is my period. It grosses me out and its just annoying. But I will not take medication...even though at times I wish I could. The moodiness, cramps and ewwiness...it sucks. My brother used to say that he was lucky because he didn't have to deal with it...oh, but he does. :D

Uhhh...my friend hardly ever bleeds. Its crazy...she's so lucky. But it worries her at the same time.

Its just an uncomfortable thing all around. My friend passes out everytime us females talk about it in front of him. Its hilarious.:)

WHO SAID THEY LOVED THEIR PERIOD?! Wow...never heard that one before. But good on yah!

[Shalot]

Lote-Tree, what is PMT? I know it as PMS PreMenstrual Syndrome.

I've never heard of PMT. That's not to say that it doesn't exist - I've just never heard of it.

[kratsayra]

I would go insane . . . seriously. if you are sexually active and don't want to be pregnant, how else will you know every month that you haven't accidentally become pregnant? I need that monthly reminder, otherwise I will start to worry.

granted being on the Pill makes your chances of being pregnant extremely slim, but there still is that minuscule chance, esp. if you missed some pills or whatever. and I just worry about stuff like that, so I need the extra assurance

not to mention that it's kinda freaky in general. yeah, yeah, back in the day women had more kids and therefore had fewer periods over their entire lifetime, but I still think it's freaky.

I've been on the Pill (but not the one that stops your period!) for four years. And due to various personal circumstances, I've just gone off of it. I'm kinda glad not to be on it, because why put more extra things in your body than you need, right? (I take one necessary medication, I rarely take painkillers, and I just don't like taking pills in general. so the less, the better, as far as I'm concerned)

[Bakiryu]

Lote-Tree, what is PMT? I know it as PMS PreMenstrual Syndrome.

I've never heard of PMT. That's not to say that it doesn't exist - I've just never heard of it.

It's the same thing. :p

So, wait, PMS is real? I always thought it was something most women made up to get sympathy and such.

[Lote-Tree]

PMT stands for Pre Menstrual Tension (which is known as PMS)

[SleepyWitch]

I would go insane . . . seriously. if you are sexually active and don't want to be pregnant, how else will you know every month that you haven't accidentally become pregnant? I need that monthly reminder, otherwise I will start to worry.


that's a very good argument!

I find periods kinda gross, but then there are worse things.
just imagine if women didn't have periods any more, we wouldn't be able to tell guys "Hey, if you bled once a month you'd die of self-pity the first time it happens!"
so seeing as we are obviously the stronger sex, why should we make life easier for ourselves? we're not wimps like the guys, are we? :D :D :D

(it's different when you have really bad cramps and pain, of course)

[Themis]

Concerning infertility - I mentioned above that the injection (or pill) does not make a woman infertile. You just have to stop taking it.

How long is it since people started taking these medications? Science needs some time (30 years at least) before they can really say what kind of after-effects there are.


@Niamh: Some people feel their period more than other (like Sleepy says, having bad cramps and such). I wouldn't judge them for that, overally.
I know the first day of the period is sometimes more painful for me than for some of my friends.

[Niamh]

How long is it since people started taking these medications? Science needs some time (30 years at least) before they can really say what kind of after-effects there are.


@Niamh: Some people feel their period more than other (like Sleepy says, having bad cramps and such). I wouldn't judge them for that, overally.
I know the first day of the period is sometimes more painful for me than for some of my friends.

I'm aware of that, especially seeing as i myself suffer from a bad heavy period that can last up to eight or nine days. The cramps i get are excruciating but i've noticed that since i went one the pill my cramps arent as bad. I go into work like this. I also go in when my IBS is really bad. I'd never use that as an excuse for a day off work either.
These are apart of my life and i've have to live with tem so there is no point using them as an excuse everyday/month for the rest of my life.

[Virgil]

I'm aware of that, especially seeing as i myself suffer from a bad heavy period that can last up to eight or nine days. The cramps i get are excruciating but i've noticed that since i went one the pill my cramps arent as bad. I go into work like this. I also go in when my IBS is really bad. I'd never use that as an excuse for a day off work either.
These are apart of my life and i've have to live with tem so there is no point using them as an excuse everyday/month for the rest of my life.

Niamh, you're a strong lady with an attitude that you express here that I admire.

[Granny5]

I have no need to take the pill at my age but if it had been "out there" when I was younger, I would have taken it at certain times. There are women who have a terrible time with their periods every month. They miss work, they are really ill from the pain. They need this pill. If I were going to the Space Station, I would want this pill. Can't think of anything worse than being in space for a year or so and having to deal with my period. I would think that every woman would have a time in their lives they would want to not have to deal with it. The effects only last as long as you're taking the pill so there is no long term effects. I'm pretty sure that if men had to deal with what we women have to deal with, this would have become available many, many years ago. And, it is NOT unhealthy for most women to have periods. There are a few who have excessive bleeding, but Lote-Tree, you do not know what you're talking about. Can you give us the article or research you got your information from? I'd be interested in reading it.

[Virgil]

that's a very good argument!

I find periods kinda gross, but then there are worse things.
just imagine if women didn't have periods any more, we wouldn't be able to tell guys "Hey, if you bled once a month you'd die of self-pity the first time it happens!"
so seeing as we are obviously the stronger sex, why should we make life easier for ourselves? we're not wimps like the guys, are we? :D :D :D


:lol: I think you're right. When I get a cold, I am such a baby. Thank God I don't have a period, I'm already grouchy enough. ;)

By the way, should this discussion be in that no boys allowed thread. Except for Lote :p none of us guys care to read about periods. :D

[Granny5]

Come on, Virgil. It's a natural thing that makes us women women. It could be worse, we could be talking about prostate trouble.

[papayahed]

:lol: I think you're right. When I get a cold, I am such a baby. Thank God I don't have a period, I'm already grouchy enough. ;)

By the way, should this discussion be in that no boys allowed thread. Except for Lote :p none of us guys care to read about periods. :D

What's the difference you guys are always snooping around the "No boys allowed" thread anyways?:lol: ;)

[Virgil]

What's the difference you guys are always snooping around the "No boys allowed" thread anyways?:lol: ;)

Well, we're curious, but not curious enough to find out the nuances of a period. If you had this discussion there, we would probably stop snooping. :D :D

[Logos]

.... Bleeding every month is not healthy, but of course, women cope, though many of them suffer a lot.

And I can't understand the argument of 'messing with mother nature'. We do it all the time. ....

Concerning infertility - I mentioned above that the injection (or pill) does not make a woman infertile. You just have to stop taking it.
Or keep taking the pill (skip the 7 day sugar pills) and go right on to the next pack of pills and you skip your period altogether :D

[papayahed]

Well, we're curious, but not curious enough to find out the nuances of a period. If you had this discussion there, we would probably stop snooping. :D :D

The snooping isn't the bad part, I'm still having nightmares of a certain toe that was posted...:lol: :lol:

[Lote-Tree]

Except for Lote :p none of us guys care to read about periods. :D

Yes. Virgil. Ignorance is bliss :D

[Niamh]

Or keep taking the pill (skip the 7 day sugar pills) and go right on to the next pack of pills and you skip your period altogether :D

The Seven day sugar pill? We dont have them here. Just a pill free week.

[TheFifthElement]

Science has discovered a way to end a women's period using a pill.

Has science gone mad?

If you are a women - would you take it?

It will mean end of PMT.

Would that be a good thing?

Perhaps more harmonious male female relationships? :D

Yes, the pill has been around a long time, it's called the contraceptive pill.

If you take the type of pill which has a week's break then just don't take the break. It's perfectly healthy to do so, and as I understand it when the pill was first launched you just took it all the time, but women didn't like it so they introduced the 7 day break which induces a 'false' period, and then women, in general, were much happier (or if not they just don't use the break period). On the 'mini-pill which you take all the time, this too induces a 'false' period, again because women didn't feel that it was normal or healthy not to have a period.

So, I guess we have a 'can't live with them, can't live without them' type relationship with the period, but this isn't one of your options Lote ;)

It's also incredibly old news.

Male/female relations would be more harmonious if men weren't so annoying. Perhaps you could post that as a question, Lote? ;)

[BibliophileTRJ]

My dad once told me "Son, never trust a creature that can bleed for 3 to 7 days and not DIE!".

And he wondered why I turned out gay!

I can't imagine why a woman would choose to menstruate if she had the choice to not do so.

[TheFifthElement]

My dad once told me "Son, never trust a creature that can bleed for 3 to 7 days and not DIE!".

And he wondered why I turned out gay!

I can't imagine why a woman would choose to menstruate if she had the choice to not do so.


:lol: :lol: :lol: You're Dad was definitely on to something!

I think it's more a case of you have to choose not to have a period, rather than choose to have one. Imagine if they invented a pill which stopped you from needing to poo - would you take it, or would it just feel wrong? It's kind of the same!

[amalia1985]

I literally suffer every month, but I would never, ever take it. I have two friends who stop their period through injections, due to their swimming obligations, and each time their "problems" are worse than mine.

[Niamh]

Its more of a controlled period than a false one. But using the pill for too many years can be dangerous and may cause blood clotting and other stuff lik DVT. I think i've only another five years of taking it.
The Implanton on the other hand gives a definite false sense of a period. But its not for everyone. Trust me i had it and had to get it removed after six months.

[kratsayra]

It's also incredibly old news.



I guess to some it might seem like old news. But at least in the United States, pharmaceutical companies have only very recently (within the past year, it seems) started heavily advertising a pill that is purposefully made so you don't get your period, or so you get it only 4 times a year.

Sure it has already been possible to do this by just skipping your off-week, just like using heavy doses of birth control pills instead of a morning after pill has already been possible. I think it's still worth talking about - for those people who might be more inclined to follow the instructions on the pill pack, it does offer a different option.

[Nossa]

I def. dont 'love' it...no sane woman would anyways, but that doesn't mean I'll take a pill to stop it. It's like these things you get used to, like the old saying, if you're living with a snake under your bed, you'll feel worried if you wake up one day and didn't find it...I guess that was a saying at least..lol
But nope, thank you..I hate my period, but I won't take the pill.

[Lote-Tree]

It's also incredibly old news.


This is not about contraception Supreme Being. It is about ending the Period.



Male/female relations would be more harmonious if men weren't so annoying. Perhaps you could post that as a question, Lote? ;)

But women are extremely nagging :D

[Niamh]

This is not about contraception Supreme Being. It is about ending the Period.
What she means is that taking th e pill continuously with out a break basicly does this anyeay


But women are extremely nagging :D
Only because you lot annoy us!:p

[Lote-Tree]

Only because you lot annoy us!:p

Football match...not a women in sight...are you sure you are not nagging here :D

[applepie]

Monthly blood outing is not healthy for a women says the researchers.

Odd:lol: If it wasn't healthy then why do all animals that carry their young similar to humans have the same issue. You would think the species would have evolved past it by now if it was truly bad for you. I believe it was said, but it is one of the stranger things I've heard.

[Lote-Tree]

Odd:lol: If it wasn't healthy then why do all animals that carry their young similar to humans have the same issue. You would think the species would have evolved past it by now if it was truly bad for you. I believe it was said, but it is one of the stranger things I've heard.

I guess it is a bit of mystery...like the appendix in human beings... :D

[TheFifthElement]

This is not about contraception Supreme Being. It is about ending the Period.

As Niamh said, you can do so with the existing contraceptive pill. If you did so until you hit the menopause then this would end the period full stop



But women are extremely nagging :D

Women only nag because men are lazy, and annoying ;)

[Lote-Tree]

Women only nag...


Truth is spoken :D

[applepie]

I guess it is a bit of mystery...like the appendix in human beings... :D

:lol: Don't scientists have better things to do that to figure out how to stop a woman's period? I love technology and all, but I'm sure there are more pressing issues that could and should be addressed.

[TheFifthElement]

Truth is spoken :D

Cheeky! :sick:

[Lote-Tree]

:lol: Don't scientists have better things to do that to figure out how to stop a woman's period?

Curing PMT is a good thing no? :D


Cheeky! :sick:

I am only joking :D

[Niamh]

I guess it is a bit of mystery...like the appendix in human beings... :D
okay nerdy time for Niamh!
Although it is believed that the appendix was a vital organ way back in Paeleolithic times before man discovered fire and cooked meat. Ie back in the time when we ate meat raw. Its believed its function was to help digest the raw meat and help kill unwanted bacterias. Because we now eat meat cooked and we have evolved it has become a useless organ with no function that no longer functions. Hasnt needed to for thousand of years.

[applepie]

Curing PMT is a good thing no? :D



:lol: It's a good thing, as I'm sure my hubby would admit. Is it really so pressing that likely millions of dollars have been spent to fix it??? Well, forget that question. I'm sure thousands of husbands and boyfriends would agree that it is that pressing:D

[Lote-Tree]

Hasnt needed to for at least a thousand years.

Perhaps Periods are not needed either now therefore science is accelerating that evolution with pills :D


I'm sure thousands of husbands and boyfriends would agree that it is that pressing:D

Yep very much :D

[Niamh]

Perhaps Periods are not needed either now therefore science is accelerating that evolution with pills :D


Lote do you even know what a period is about?
every month a woman starts to ovulate. An ovary goes into the womb waiting to be penetrated by a sperm. The womb is lined (with blood) waiting a conception. This blood is therefore to help create a new life. If Sperm doesnt arrive, and egg dies lining is released creating a period. So now that you know that, do you still think its a good idea for women not to have a period? If we didnt we wouldnt be able to procreate, therefore no new life and human race could potencially die out.

[Granny5]

Maybe they ought to work on eliminating pms and not stopping the periods.

[Niamh]

Maybe they ought to work on eliminating pms and not stopping the periods.

or maybe they should help medical recearchers find cure for hiv and cancer, things that actually need to be ended.

[barbara0207]

Lote do you even know what a period is about?
every month a woman starts to ovulate. An ovary goes into the womb waiting to be penetrated by a sperm. The womb is lined (with blood) waiting a conception. This blood is therefore to help create a new life. If Sperm doesnt arrive, and egg dies lining is released creating a period. So now that you know that, do you still think its a good idea for women not to have a period? If we didnt we wouldnt be able to procreate, therefore no new life and human race could potencially die out.

We only have our period every month because at the beginning it was an evolutionary advantage to be fertile almost all the time, every month of the year. Other mammals are fertile only at certain times of the year, thus having fewer periods. Constant fertility is no longer wanted today (otherwise there would not be so many contraceptives). So building up new blood in the uterus every single month is actually a waste of energy - and it does take a lot of energy to build it up and then get rid of it again as can be seen from the problems all women have - more or less - with their period.

[Granny5]

or maybe they should help medical recearchers find cure for hiv and cancer, things that actually need to be ended.

Niamh, you are correct of course. Cancer, HIV, childhood illiness, so many other things would make more sense. But I think researchers will take whatever grant money they can get for any reason. If someone is willing to pay them to research something, they'll research it. Even if it makes no sense.

[Lote-Tree]

Lote do you even know what a period is about?

Yes. Thanks.

And just imagine that science can alter how it works. Instead of every month you can have it when you want it :D So eliminitating all this monthly build of the womb lining...and then being destroyed....come Niamh - it could be better this way...just imagine how much money that can be saved on sanitary towels and tampons...and also look at all the environmental benefits of not having to dump them on landfill sites? and not forgetting all those unwanted pregnancies etc...

It makes sense doesn't it :D

[Niamh]

We only have our period every month because at the beginning it was an evolutionary advantage to be fertile almost all the time, every month of the year. Other mammals are fertile only at certain times of the year, thus having fewer periods. Constant fertility is no longer wanted today (otherwise there would not be so many contraceptives). So building up new blood in the uterus every single month is actually a waste of energy - and it does take a lot of energy to build it up and then get rid of it again as can be seen from the problems all women have - more or less - with their period.
Yes but at the end of the day, our period is apart of what makes us women. I dont love my period, but i have no problem living with it.

Yes. Thanks.

And just imagine that science can alter how it works. Instead of every month you can have it when you want it :D So eliminitating all this monthly build of the womb lining...and then being destroyed....come Niamh - it could be better this way...just imagine how much money that can be saved on sanitary towels and tampons...and also look at all the environmental benefits of not having to dump them on landfill sites? and not forgetting all those unwanted pregnancies etc...

It makes sense doesn't it :D
I dont mind taking a pill as a contraceptive, but i wouldnt take one with the purpose of losing my period altogether. I wouldnt feel like muh of a woman then.

[AuntShecky]

I am personally sick and tired of men making decisions, judgements about women's bodies. As to the specific question, why not leave it up to the female person herself? Once again we come to the word that makes people on both sides of the pole see "red." And the word is "choice."
You know what we we could use from medical research? We need some kind of pill that would prevent men from acting like total jackasses. (I don't mean YOU personally, Lote-Tree. If in fact you are a of the male persuasion.)
Auntie

[Granny5]

I am personally sick and tired of men making decisions, judgements about women's bodies. As to the specific question, why not leave it up to the female person herself? Once again we come to the word that makes people on both sides of the pole see "red." And the word is "choice."
You know what we we could use from medical research? We need some kind of pill that would prevent men from acting like total jackasses. (I don't mean YOU personally, Lote-Tree. If in fact you are a of the male persuasion.)
Auntie

Auntie, you are a hero. Well said!

[Niamh]

I am personally sick and tired of men making decisions, judgements about women's bodies. As to the specific question, why not leave it up to the female person herself? Once again we come to the word that makes people on both sides of the pole see "red." And the word is "choice."
You know what we we could use from medical research? We need some kind of pill that would prevent men from acting like total jackasses. (I don't mean YOU personally, Lote-Tree. If in fact you are a of the male persuasion.)
Auntie

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/lovemygessies/PF%20Emotes/clappingsmilie.gifYou go Auntie!

[Lote-Tree]

I am personally sick and tired of men making decisions, judgements about women's bodies.


I think the researchers were Female scientist.



As to the specific question, why not leave it up to the female person herself?


I think whether to take pill or not is upto the women is it not? It is that that gave them the freedom they needed? At last they were in control of their reproduction?



We need some kind of pill that would prevent men from acting like total jackasses.


Aunty Science is Neutral. Don't blame science for humanities failings.



(I don't mean YOU personally, Lote-Tree.


Ah good Aunty. But don't take this thread seriously :D



If in fact you are a of the male persuasion.)
Auntie

I don't get that but I hope it's is something good :D

[Virgil]

I am personally sick and tired of men making decisions, judgements about women's bodies. As to the specific question, why not leave it up to the female person herself? Once again we come to the word that makes people on both sides of the pole see "red." And the word is "choice."
You know what we we could use from medical research? We need some kind of pill that would prevent men from acting like total jackasses. (I don't mean YOU personally, Lote-Tree. If in fact you are a of the male persuasion.)
Auntie

Perhaps I haven't read the entire thread carefully enough, but where may I ask has anyone of the male persuasion in here made any decision for women on thier bodies?

[kratsayra]

thinking more about this thread, I remembered that I had a teacher in high school who was very interested in all things alternative . . . and they claimed that on the proper diet, it was possible to stop one's period. And I don't think they meant the kind of diet where you don't eat at all, which is another way of stopping the period.

Interestingly, that particular teacher has since undergone a sex change from female to male. I dunno if that means he doesn't have periods anymore. ;)

[Virgil]

thinking more about this thread, I remembered that I had a teacher in high school who was very interested in all things alternative . . . and they claimed that on the proper diet, it was possible to stop one's period. And I don't think they meant the kind of diet where you don't eat at all, which is another way of stopping the period.

Interestingly, that particular teacher has since undergone a sex change from female to male. I dunno if that means he doesn't have periods anymore. ;)

:lol: :lol: You're second paragraph is precious.