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Demian
09-20-2007, 03:29 AM
Has philosophy died with post modernism?
Is there anything new being done with philosophy today?
Are there still philosophers out there-and what are they doing?

Oniw17
09-20-2007, 04:17 AM
There will always be political philosophy, unless society becomes stagnant, which is never a good thing.

Virgil
09-20-2007, 09:02 AM
Has philosophy died with post modernism?
Is there anything new being done with philosophy today?
Are there still philosophers out there-and what are they doing?

No, you just haven't learned about them yet. School is always behind the times. Look up Karl Popper and Thomas Kuhn.

Mr. Dr. Ralph
09-20-2007, 03:16 PM
Has philosophy died with post modernism?
Is there anything new being done with philosophy today?
Are there still philosophers out there-and what are they doing?

Maybe. Things like AI and Turing machines are still pretty popular. There aren't many philosophers that write and think in the same vein as those from 100+ years ago. Most would-be philosophers are probably into psychology or math or physics because philosophy is difficult to make a living from. Even philosophers from a few hundred years ago had jobs and merely did philosophy or science on the side, such as Laplace, Spinoza, Young and Goethe. Part of this has to do with the few practical applications that philosophy has to offer, and obviously that the masses don't particularly care for the subject.

Philosophy of mathematics is also studied pretty extensively. There are more fields available for mathematicians than there were in earlier centuries, and the computer age has only enhanced the use of numbers instead of words to solve difficult questions.

blazeofglory
09-20-2007, 09:57 PM
Has philosophy died with post modernism?
Is there anything new being done with philosophy today?
Are there still philosophers out there-and what are they doing?

Philosophy survives eternally against the ravages of time.
This is a part of life, and man lives with philosophy. This is very integral to life. Can we live without beliefs of something in life?

The tradition of philosophy has undergone a drastic change no doubt, man gives less emphasis to theories of philosophy, yet philosophy as such is alive today as ever before.

As long as man does not stop questioning philosophy never ceases to be, the question of the existence of life and God and his relationship with God, if any or any meaning of the existence of life.

drunkenKOALA
09-25-2007, 12:37 AM
I am not sure what type of philosophy we are talking about, but the one I am familiar with I would say is like alchemy: it has its place in history, but it's seriously outdated as we have since had a better understanding of chemistry/science.

blazeofglory
09-25-2007, 10:10 PM
I am not sure what type of philosophy we are talking about, but the one I am familiar with I would say is like alchemy: it has its place in history, but it's seriously outdated as we have since had a better understanding of chemistry/science.

Alchemy despite the fact that at origin it was the science of chemistry, and today chemistry has limitations and alchemy is no longer the science of chemistry at all. It is in fact pseudoscience.

And I think alchemy has little to do with philosophy at all. If we liken philosophy to magics then we are wrong. Today philosophy is geared more towards science than religion.

drunkenKOALA
09-25-2007, 11:59 PM
"It is in fact pseudoscience"
That's my point.

"Today philosophy is geared more towards science than religion."
It is?

Oniw17
09-26-2007, 02:19 AM
dK, I think you're thinking more metaphysics than the entire feild of philosophy. Any scientist can also be called a natural philosopher. Karl Popper is a philosopher who comes to mind after reading post 6; he made the scientific method logical.

blazeofglory
09-26-2007, 09:04 PM
dK, I think you're thinking more metaphysics than the entire feild of philosophy. Any scientist can also be called a natural philosopher. Karl Popper is a philosopher who comes to mind after reading post 6; he made the scientific method logical.

In fact philosophy has more to do with searching for the meaning of life, man's relationship with nature, the question of the meaning of existence, the existence or non existence of the creator of the universe. Science itself is not philosophy , and science teaches in point of fact natural phenomena and it is circumscribed by a limitation of its own. However scientific approaches often delimits philosophical propositions.

Philosophy is a broader term, and it covers many other disciplines and in essence it is a holistic approach, and in fact it is a conglomerated study of different branches of studies, science, religion, language, sociology and many others.

gothic
10-01-2007, 12:09 PM
now,this is a very provocative question indeed,demian.

At this stage of science all get easily dubious about the necessity of philosophy and with time even begin to think it as outdated.We forget that "PHILOSOPHY IS THE MOTHER OF SCIENCE" and it is the thing that blissfully tought us to think exceptionally,to look beyond things,which's what science been doing,but in a keener scale.but that doesn't mean that philosophy isn't needed anymore.now we need philosophers more than ever,as only philosophy can show its child the right path to search in,being the lightbearer.

Philosophy rules and it's utterly indispensable as long as the absolute answer remains veiled-the answer to our existence.

Oniw17
10-01-2007, 02:34 PM
Science itself is not philosophy.
I didn't say that, but every scientist is necessarily a natural philosopher. Natural philosophy is pretty much the empirical study of nature(so is science). Also, what does Ph.D. stand for?

Laindessiel
10-01-2007, 04:40 PM
All I have to say is we don't have to conform with what philosophers are raving about. Ideas are free and not copyrighted. Nor does it belong to any era to justify their statements' definitions. We are all philosophers in our right.

Philosophy need not be deep to be understood. It's all in the mind.

Starving Buddha
10-01-2007, 04:44 PM
All I have to say is we don't have to conform with what philosophers are raving about. Ideas are free and not copyrighted. Nor does it belong to any era to justify their statements' definitions. We are all philosophers in our right.

Philosophy need not be deep to be understood. It's all in the mind.

Or at least we should be...

Starving Buddha
10-01-2007, 04:49 PM
It seems quite silly to differentiate between modes of thought into catagories like "religion", "science", "philosophy"... Aren't they really all the same? Products of the human mind. The ultimate truth would have to incorporate everything together. Our minds look at things and order them according to differences. We must train our minds to seek similarities instead. Anologies... This experience we call "life" is a mental expereince so the "truth" is not to be found "out there", but within...

drunkenKOALA
10-01-2007, 11:17 PM
PHILOSOPHY IS THE MOTHER OF SCIENCE

Just as alchemy is the mother of chemistry?

amanda_isabel
10-02-2007, 12:14 AM
There will always be political philosophy, unless society becomes stagnant, which is never a good thing.

true.. but, as a sociology professor once said, "karl marx didn't have a t.v."

gothic
10-02-2007, 03:33 AM
It seems quite silly to differentiate between modes of thought into catagories like "religion", "science", "philosophy"... Aren't they really all the same? Products of the human mind. The ultimate truth would have to incorporate everything together. Our minds look at things and order them according to differences. We must train our minds to seek similarities instead. Anologies... This experience we call "life" is a mental expereince so the "truth" is not to be found "out there", but within...

Yes,in a sense you are right,S.B.religion,science,philosophy-they are thoughts,more specifically,'modes of thoughts',as you said yourself.so they are interconnected with each other,but with their distinct entities.see more intently and you'll feel the difference between them.they are like sources of water-river,rain,waterfall;all destined to fall into the ocean at last...still their purposes and ways are different.


We sort things according to their differences,that's right.this 'sorting out' was at first invented by Aristotle,to amass and preserve all the knowledge systematically.
but again we correlate them remembering their similarities,and we ought to do it.this process of sorting and and again correlating them helps us to uphold and enhance the knowledge we gain.

Yes,you could call reality only a mental experience,but also you'll have to keep in mind that this mental experience is nothing but stimulies of brain which is a major part of our physique.so it's not all that 'mental',you see.

Some say,the truth is in here and some say out there.I think the 'truth' is everywhere."In everything remains something of everything"...the oldest philosophy comes again.

gothic
10-02-2007, 06:31 AM
Just as alchemy is the mother of chemistry?

Alchemy and philosophy? well,alchemists were specific 'philosophers' or scientists who were mainly after turning everything into gold,but as we all know,'necessity is the mother of invention'(here comes the parent thing again!) and hence they found out about more anonymous substances.since chemistry's the science of elements,alchemy's often called the predecessor of chemistry,though its purpose was totally different from the latter.

Alchemists were fine as scientists,but they were not much of philosophers,though it was much thoughtful of them even to take up a project like that.

KidTruth
10-05-2007, 10:00 AM
Personally, I think we're heading(back?) towards surrealism. If you're a writer, I wouldn't worry about it - critics will put you in your place afterwards, it's not something very many writers think about beforehand.

jdadler
10-05-2007, 10:37 PM
philosophy doesnt die it just changes focus with the times.
consider the essays of Marshall McCluhan who theorized heavily on the cyclical effect of media and culture.
also consider that many philosophers can be found within modern media..e.g. U2's Bloody Sunday commentary on war, NIN's Hurt commentary on drug addiction, Mettalica's Master of Puppets commentary on govt control, the Woody Allen vs Spike Lee comments on city life, etc.
There are also political philosophers masquerading as think tanks; e.g. PNAC's numerous papers reflecting a Machiavellian approach to stablizing the planet.