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Bakiryu
09-06-2007, 04:27 PM
"You can learn anything about the world by observing nature."

What do you think? What has mother nature taught you?

Lote-Tree
09-06-2007, 04:29 PM
"You can learn anything about the world by observing nature."

What do you think? What has mother nature taught you?

Nature red in tooth and claw?

Bakiryu
09-06-2007, 04:30 PM
Nature red in tooth and claw?

What? Quoting, Tennyson now, are you? :lol:

Lote-Tree
09-06-2007, 04:32 PM
What? Quoting, Tennyson now, are you? :lol:

Mother Nature teaches the reality of the Selfish-Gene :D

NikolaiI
09-06-2007, 04:49 PM
Yes, but it can't really be expressed in words. It's just an impression of nature and life, that you experience all at once. It's the difference between nature and how we are usually educated; by books and text. When we read we go one line at a time to go through the whole book, but in nature we see the whole picture at once. But that was Alan Watts as much as nature. I agree with Lote that it is about survival and what not.

I think we can probably learn things by observing nature, but a lot they are meditations that you can't put into words usually, since there are no words in nature.

Bakiryu
09-06-2007, 04:54 PM
Today while traveling in a car, a cloud caught my eye. It was so sharp and distinctive amid other clouds. Then my sight expanded and I saw all the clouds were different, yet made of the same stuff, together they made a whole only to rain down and begin again.

Nature is wise.

NikolaiI
09-06-2007, 04:56 PM
That's what Alan Watts says...

Bakiryu
09-06-2007, 04:58 PM
That's what Alan Watts says...

Really? What books has he written? I would like to read some. :thumbs_up

NikolaiI
09-06-2007, 05:01 PM
Well, I haven't read any of his books yet: two or three articles I found online. JGL57 turned me on to him and I've watched a few of his videos and read the articles. On two different threads JGL has given me reading lists of him, and I know where at least one of them is, I'll post it here in a second (with edit).

I liked his YT video Time, and I think "conversation with himself" which is 4 parts. in Time he says there's no such thing as Time, time could be going backwards for all we know, and everything is one extended present possibly. In the other, he is walking in the woods and just conversing. I think the second one he talks about some things he wrote in the article "the Joyous Cosmology"

Bakiryu
09-06-2007, 05:03 PM
I'll see if I can find him on www.veoh.com , thanks!

NikolaiI
09-06-2007, 05:05 PM
Sure! :D Here is the one by JGL, it was on the Zen thread.


I have read about 45 Alan Watts books and, with a couple of exceptions, found them all to be well worth the time.

If you are interested specifically in Zen, then I could recommend any and all of the following six titles by Watts:

The Way of Zen
The Spirit of Zen
Talking Zen
Zen and the Beat Way
Zen, The Supreme Experience
Eastern Wisdom - Three Classics: What is Zen? What is Tao? An Introduction to Meditation


But, his books on Taoism and Hindu concepts are also, uh, enlightening. :D

45 books!! hehe

Pensive
09-07-2007, 05:34 AM
Interesting thread. Reminds me of Siddhartha! There was a sentence like the following present in that book:

Listen to water, it tells tales.

Also, this thread is (http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26130) what comes into my mind when talking about what I have learnt from nature. :)

Demian
09-07-2007, 06:28 AM
I need to get out there more! Nature hasn't been given a chance to speak to me nearly enough. My frame of reference goes from home to car to work to car with most of those hours focused on a screen of some kind (TV, computer, games etc.) I am rarely conscious of the fact that the natural world even exists.

Bakiryu
09-08-2007, 08:59 PM
People don't listen to nature anymore. To quote one of my slacker friends "Who needs nature? I got TV."

papayahed
09-08-2007, 09:21 PM
Nature is a Mother.

And from that old 70's commercial - "It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature"

Bakiryu
09-12-2007, 06:52 PM
Nature is a Mother.

And from that old 70's commercial - "It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature"

Reminds me of :idea: Captain Planet! My favorite tv show when growing up.

Bakiryu
09-13-2007, 09:05 PM
wow, it seems this thread it's empty. Maybe no one is learning from nature this days, with pcs and tvs......:(

NikolaiI
09-14-2007, 01:35 AM
It's strange you know but after this thread, I started seeing this everywhere...everyone is talking about nature and especially lessons learned from nature. Now I forget what they all said, but yeah I've seen it a lot recently. What was I going to say- oh, you can learn about nature by nature. I mean bugs and things. They can teach you- this one does this, and that one does the other! Like their nature, I guess you could say.

I wished I lived closer to nature. I spent all day yesterday and today in nature, and I love just staring at bugs or something as almost a meditation. We are the only thinking things...bugs don't think. Made me think.

Bakiryu
09-14-2007, 01:40 AM
Yes it seems talks about nature are everywhere. maybe i should found a new religon or something: naturalism. I would get a thousand followers and such.

Today I spent all early afternoon looking for messages in the rain, there was no one else but the cars on the street. Made me think that man has forgotten how to appreciate beauty.

Your post Nikkolai makes me think, what if this universe is some kind of goddly ant farm?

NikolaiI
09-14-2007, 02:03 AM
Haha, messages in the rain...that reminds me of a song by ELO:

"Secret Messages"

"A moving stream of information
That is floating on the wind
The secrets never end
And now they call
They sing, they play, they dance for you
From out of the blue
What can you do?

The secret messages are calling to me endlessly
They call to me across the air
The messages across the atmosphere
They whisper in your ear
They're calling everywhere

Where words cascade like rainbows tumbling from the sky
Then i'll be there, I'll be there
When messages will call to you their secrets all around
Without a sound, they're all around

Those secret messages that spill into the air from far away
So far away
A flowing river of illusion running with confusion
Never gone - It goes on and on"

Bakiryu
09-14-2007, 06:27 PM
I love the way that sounds now, I should listen to the song.

BTW; i like your signature, even if it takes me a bit of a time to read it. (can't read fast in french for the hell of me)

NikolaiI
09-15-2007, 12:58 AM
i like your signature, even if it takes me a bit of a time to read it. (can't read fast in french for the hell of me)

Thanks I love The Rockets! :) I entered into freetranslation.com, and it gave a translation for every word except detraque.
Fils du ciel means sons of the sky, I assume you know nous sommes les fils is we are the sons of the sky.
Dieux means gods...I would love to hear what you think of it since you are figuring it out yourself! I read the translation and I think it is very beautiful, but without it I'm not sure of exactly what it said.
I can't read in French hardly at all. I would love to learn, though, I was always interested in that and always wanted to read French books in French class. I took 3 years, and the 3rd year twice, but never went beyond that.


I love the way that sounds now, I should listen to the song.

I thought you would like it.
It's a cool song, but of course I am partial to ELO. I think it comes from a same-titled album, Secret Messages. The song just before it is interesting too, "Loser Gone Wild." A friend of mine burned all of ELO for me on mp3 years ago- for some reason the tracks are lumped together 2 to 4 tracks as one. I don't think it's like that on the CDs, though. Kind of strange. On some they are normal.

Oh, and you will probably not find five Americans who have heard of Les Rockets... :) they're a french techno band and i love a lot of their songs.

farnoosh
09-15-2007, 02:30 AM
well,I had a lesson that turned my heart around. it was about my mother .it always makes me feel so angry that i want to kill myself when i remmember it.
When my mother was on earth ,she was like other mothers i thought but when she left me in this mean world,i know now WHO she was!!
I never knew how much i liked her,but when mother nature kept her away from me ,now i know how much i LOVE her.:bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:
I will give EVERYTHING ,but just if she gives my mother back!:bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

Bakiryu
09-15-2007, 08:50 PM
techno

Techno?

Now i HAVE to listen to it, I love techno. :idea:

Ranoo
09-16-2007, 01:29 AM
there is no immortal beauty, I learned from the beautiful moon,
there is no immortal power, I learned from the powerfull wave of the sea,
there is no immortal painting, I learned from the changeable sky,

dramasnot6
09-16-2007, 01:49 AM
Lessons I have learned as a devout lover of nature:
1) There is nothing more beautiful than creation
2) Creation and destruction walk hand-in-hand, you can not accomplish one without the other
3) Do not agitate things that buzz
4) Let death dissolve into the rest of your life as a natural occurence