world after death

[yara]

Sometimes i just think about that day .....the day when i will find myself alone in the grave....when i will leave my world and enter a new world..what will happen in that world....what sounds i might hear .........what feelings i might feel ......is it going to be better than our world?!......just think about that world ...tell me what do you think of your world after death

[earthboar]

I hope it's like Middle Earth, with hobbits and wizards and elves, Mr. Frodo.

Sometimes i just think about that day .....the day when i will find myself alone in the grave....when i will leave my world and enter a new world..what will happen in that world....what sounds i might hear .........what feelings i might feel ......is it going to be better than our world?!......just think about that world ...tell me what do you think of your world after death

[NikolaiI]

Lol! nice one boar.

I think you cease to exist, others would say you might go somewhere and live an eternal life. I think everything points to our lives being impermanent, so that's my take. I read a debate by Deepak Chopra, he thinks there is life after death. I believe it to be a fact that right as you die, a whole lot of di-ethyl-triptamine is released into your brain, for whatever that's worth.

[Niamh]

I think our energy will be released and we will bcome part of the earth and the world we lived in. I also believe we can leave imprints of ourselves when we are release, whether it be a spirit entity or just a memory imprinted into rock to be replayed. Or we could be reborn again.
We have man choices i think. Its justs a matter of what we choose ourselves; what path we want to walk after death.

[Lote-Tree]

Sometimes i just think about that day .....the day when i will find myself alone in the grave....when i will leave my world and enter a new world..what will happen in that world....what sounds i might hear .........what feelings i might feel ......is it going to be better than our world?!......just think about that world ...tell me what do you think of your world after death

The better world is right here. You have to take responsibility for it to make it so.

[Mr. Dr. Ralph]

When your brain stops working then you're pretty much finished being alive.

[Madhuri]

Hindus believe in life after death. So, when I die, I will be cremated. It is believed that human body is made of certain elements air, water, fire and earth. And, cremation is the process of releasing these elements back. In the process, my soul will be released and may or may not take a new and any mortal form, depending upon the deeds that I did in this life. My ashes will be then immersed in a holy river.

This is what will happen to me after my death.

I like the idea of life after death, it keeps my hopes alive. It is not as if I will simply perish from the face of the earth. In some way / form I will still be there. My soul will be alive, and that will be my world after death.

But, there a possibility that none of this might happen. It could be that I die in a plane crash, and I fall into some ocean, and then, my world after death will be shark tummy :p.

[Lote-Tree]

I like the idea of life after death, it keeps my hopes alive. It is not as if I will simply perish from the face of the earth. In some way / form I will still be there. My soul will be alive, and that will be my world after death.


But to come back into this God-forsaken-Earth does not sound appealing ;-(
But oh oh the possiblity of shacking up with Madhuri Dixit, Angelina Jolie, Jessica Alba - sounds very exciting though :D

[Madhuri]

But to come back into this God-forsaken-Earth does not sound appealing ;-(
But oh oh the possiblity of shacking up with Madhuri Dixit, Angelina Jolie, Jessica Alba - sounds very exciting though :D

It's not necessary that you will come back as a human being. What if you come back as an ant :p ? It might be that during a dance practice, Madhuri Dixit squishes one particular ant under her feet :p...I don't mean you, but, just incase :p .

If your soul is released from this vicious cycle of life and death, then you will float freely. No need to come back.


:D :D

[Lote-Tree]

What if you come back as an ant :p ?


I can still crawl up her Arms :D



It might be that during a dance practice, Madhuri Dixit squishes one particular ant under her feet :p...I don't mean you, but, just incase :p .


To die under her feet :D
That would be so terrible :-(



If your soul is released from this vicious cycle of life and death, then you will float freely. No need to come back.


Bueno! I feel I am constrained my bodily existence!!!

[Mr. Dr. Ralph]

Hindus believe in life after death. So, when I die, I will be cremated. It is believed that human body is made of certain elements air, water, fire and earth. And, cremation is the process of releasing these elements back. In the process, my soul will be released and may or may not take a new and any mortal form, depending upon the deeds that I did in this life. My ashes will be then immersed in a holy river.

This is what will happen to me after my death.

I like the idea of life after death, it keeps my hopes alive. It is not as if I will simply perish from the face of the earth. In some way / form I will still be there. My soul will be alive, and that will be my world after death.

But, there a possibility that none of this might happen. It could be that I die in a plane crash, and I fall into some ocean, and then, my world after death will be shark tummy :p.

This is a good reply, but I would like to push it a little. I agree that a corpse eventually enters a cycle of some type, but is it accurate to say that you can become anything? I suppose I am asking you whether a person can be said to have a true identity or not, given that people are mostly comprised of food they have once eaten. I am hung up on the idea of someone being reincarnated into something else because the constituents of the body can't be owned.

I have never understood the idea of the soul. If it can't be sensed then what license do we have to say that it exists? My understanding of Hinduism seems to be much different than yours, what denomination are you?

[earthboar]

Lol! nice one boar.

I believe it to be a fact that right as you die, a whole lot of di-ethyl-triptamine is released into your brain, for whatever that's worth.I hope so. Imagine if the afterlife was a DMT trip? Whewww.. Mama-mia. No wonder Terrance McKenna died young.

In my heart of hearts, I believe in life after death. I believe there was life before birth. I don't pretend to know what that means, and I'm not convinced it will resemble our present corporeal form. Perhaps the mind floats, or perhaps it eventually concretes into another form, maybe on a planet far, far away, or even a time and place that is not continuous with the one in our own galaxy. It's heartbreaking to think there are some people I would never see again. It's heartbreaking to think that some have died so young, or so horribly, and there is no redeeming purpose to their having ever lived, and left behind heartbroken loved ones.

However, I did read another kind of bible called OAHSPE, which was a kind of spiritist, divinely inspired take on creation, and I think there is something to it. It speaks of millions of lifetimes, millions of worlds, and the onward and upward ascent of the spirit to the ultimate Godhead. There is not one god, but millions of gods, and a hierarchy of thousands of levels of spiritual existence, of which the human kind is not the highest, nor the lowest. What I like about that idea is the continuance of spirit in a multiplicity of forms and experiences and opportunities. This might explain those vague memories and déjà vu, where I could be talking to you or reading a book, but I am also living an alternate life on an alternate level of consciousness that has nothing to do with temporal contingencies. Not unlike what happened to Capt. Picard in a Star Trek: Next Generation episode, where he was knocked unconscious, and lived an entire lifetime during the 20 minutes he was out.

That possibility satisfies me, because it allows that spirits meet and separate, meet and separate as they move along the millions of "planets" and vortices and "heavens". I vainly admit that I am something of a genius, but in matters of the question of life after death, my guess is no better than anyone else's.

[Madhuri]

This is a good reply, but I would like to push it a little. I agree that a corpse eventually enters a cycle of some type, but is it accurate to say that you can become anything?

The soul inside my body is mine. For this mortal existence, it will be called Madhuri and reside inside a body. It's a part of my material as well as spiritual world. So, when I said I will become something after my death, it actually meant my soul will take some other mortal form.


I suppose I am asking you whether a person can be said to have a true identity or not, given that people are mostly comprised of food they have once eaten.

I am not sure what you mean by 'true identity' here.

Are you sure that there is nothing more to a person than the food they eat? Is there nothing more to your existence than the physical form?


I am hung up on the idea of someone being reincarnated into something else because the constituents of the body can't be owned.

Reincarnation does not mean taking the same constituents of the body and giving it same / another shape. It will depend upon the deeds a person does in this life. You will be given another mortal form depending upon your deeds of the current life. Which means that then the soul will reside in a new body (human or otherwise) and repent / enjoy the benefits of the next life. It is believed that being born as a human being is the best form, that the person must have done some good deeds to be born as a human. And also that a person will be reborn till they have attained moksha where the soul is set free from this worldly existence.

The constituents of the body can't be owned, that is why they are returned back to where they belong to during cremation. And in that process everything including the soul returns back to where it came from. It means that only the soul will be there in the next life as it has eternal existence, unlike the body.


I have never understood the idea of the soul. If it can't be sensed then what license do we have to say that it exists? My understanding of Hinduism seems to be much different than yours, what denomination are you?

It maybe my fear of death that makes me think that soul exists. When I say 'my' and in the context of soul and after life, I am talking about things that will have an eternal existence. My body will go after death, but my soul cannot be burnt or damaged, it will be there forever. That's why I like the idea of life after death. Maybe its just for this life, but it relieves me from this fear that I will cease to exist someday. There are beliefs that a person wants to hang on to, and, for every person these may differ.

It may not be so after my death, but, as I am yet to see what will actually be there in the next life / after I am dead, I am going on with these beliefs.

There is no need to believe in soul and life after death if you don't want to or you think soul does not exist.

:)

[Bakiryu]

I believe I will reincarnate until I learn all life-lessons and then go back into the goddess.

[kiz_paws]

When your brain stops working then you're pretty much finished being alive.

Too true, for the physical aspect of things.

But the spiritual aspect -- does that just stop when the heart/brain end things with the body? I like to read about some of the NDE (Near Death Experiences), if it is fiction, than it is really good fiction. But if there is even a grain of truth to it, well, we have some cool things to look forward to.

Personally I do believe that we are born with more than the physical (obvious) side to us. I believe in souls and that there really is a spiritual side. So yeah, that is me. Good topic. :)

[Yodels]

Hello, I just joined. Funny how I imagine things and they come about. I was lo thinking I would like to join a book group. I saw your message first. I have died and had an experience. Not sure how this works, computer on this group, however if you would like my experience I will share it.

Yodels

[Madhuri]

Hello, I just joined. Funny how I imagine things and they come about. I was lo thinking I would like to join a book group. I saw your message first. I have died and had an experience. Not sure how this works, computer on this group, however if you would like my experience I will share it.

Yodels

Hi, Yodels. Welcome to the forum !! :wave:

I would like to know of your experience. Please, do share. :)

[NikolaiI]

I hope so. Imagine if the afterlife was a DMT trip? Whewww.. Mama-mia. No wonder Terrance McKenna died young.

In my heart of hearts, I believe in life after death. I believe there was life before birth. I don't pretend to know what that means, and I'm not convinced it will resemble our present corporeal form. Perhaps the mind floats, or perhaps it eventually concretes into another form, maybe on a planet far, far away, or even a time and place that is not continuous with the one in our own galaxy. It's heartbreaking to think there are some people I would never see again. It's heartbreaking to think that some have died so young, or so horribly, and there is no redeeming purpose to their having ever lived, and left behind heartbroken loved ones.

However, I did read another kind of bible called OAHSPE, which was a kind of spiritist, divinely inspired take on creation, and I think there is something to it. It speaks of millions of lifetimes, millions of worlds, and the onward and upward ascent of the spirit to the ultimate Godhead. There is not one god, but millions of gods, and a hierarchy of thousands of levels of spiritual existence, of which the human kind is not the highest, nor the lowest. What I like about that idea is the continuance of spirit in a multiplicity of forms and experiences and opportunities. This might explain those vague memories and déjà vu, where I could be talking to you or reading a book, but I am also living an alternate life on an alternate level of consciousness that has nothing to do with temporal contingencies. Not unlike what happened to Capt. Picard in a Star Trek: Next Generation episode, where he was knocked unconscious, and lived an entire lifetime during the 20 minutes he was out.

That possibility satisfies me, because it allows that spirits meet and separate, meet and separate as they move along the millions of "planets" and vortices and "heavens". I vainly admit that I am something of a genius, but in matters of the question of life after death, my guess is no better than anyone else's.

I believe time works backwards in a way. I've become convinced that things in the future which we usually think of as yet to happen have already happened. Or perhaps when something happens, when a moment occurs, it has happened infinite times and will again happen infinite times. I believe in eternal recurrence. I suppose the reason I think that time works in this funny way, as if backwards, is just my experiences of deja-vu. It has become so that most days I experience moments that make me think what is happening now happened years ago. I seem to have a memory of an event that seems unique, that I haven't had, but a memory of it as if I had. It's like I remember it, but I remember it differently because at that age, my surroundings were more unknown, whereas when I experience the event at this age, I understand my surroundings and they aren't scary to me. I have all the feelings of events that happen to me now as if they also happened when I was younger. My dad tells me this is similar to seeing Jesus in the clouds or a cereal bowl, but I've never seen Jesus in the clouds or a cereal bowl (although I've thought I've moved the clouds...), and I think this is different.

Sometimes I wonder if we haven't passed through this world before, every person, and will do in the future- sort of the reincarnation, many lives take, but with everyone. It seems like in just one more generation (another world) we could get things right.

D. Chopra says he believes that there is life after death, in much the same way you describe. He talks about information fields, and says consciousness is one such field; when we are alive, our consciousness affects our environment by 'seeping' into it, and when we die it is released and continues to exist outside our body. I find this hard to accept, in a spirit or consciousness existing without a mind, at least not for very long. But another idea similar to this I can find myself believing: perhaps our consciousness remains in the minds of others. Not in memory, but actual shreds and elements of our spirit. That I could accept. I have an idea that we might have passed-on memories, too, vague as they might be. For instance, have you ever read a story you know you have never read, but been totally freaked at the sensations it gave you? Chekhov...Chekhov...I have a goal to read all of his stories, because every one I've read so far has given me that feeling.

[Yodels]

I have died and came back. For me it was a very peaceful experience. All I cared about slipped away. I saw my brother who had passed. No white light just space. He was killed by a drunk driver. I was so happy to see him. I was in a space, it felt very different. Wonderful, a very good place... I have no words to discribe the feeling accurately. I wanted to stay in that space and wanted to enter and be with my brother Terry. He said no you have to go back it is not your time, your needed, I died and dad needs you. I insisted I stay as it was so beautiful of a feeling. He said no your time is not now. Go back. I was upset, I wanted to stay. I felt a gust of air fill my chest and doctor and nurses were worried and talking as I drifted back. The doctor said we thought we lost you. The nurse was nervous and I heard a heart monitor..beeping. I thought now why is that here near me, there is nothing wrong with me. I had a severe asthma attack and was in ICU....my heart stopped, my lungs, then I was back.

My father did need me... He died three years later the same day my brother did. I had to learn from my dad and I got to really bond with him, agian. I was back and I my horses were very important again. I have had the same horse for twenty eight years. When this occurance happened my horse was five years old. I live in the country out in the middle of no where. I do so for my horse. I have evolved and learned the importance of all living creatures and how each animal has a soul.

When I had to euthanise my dog Yeller, when he died, I felt an instant pulling out of my chest area. It flew out of me and up. I thought that must be my soul. I loved that dog very much. I will not forget that feeling either.

I worrie what will become of me when my horses die and my two old dogs. I wonder if that will be the end of my journey. I am in the mist of making my place a Wildlife Sanctuary. Yodels

[Mr. Dr. Ralph]

Too true, for the physical aspect of things.

But the spiritual aspect -- does that just stop when the heart/brain end things with the body? I like to read about some of the NDE (Near Death Experiences), if it is fiction, than it is really good fiction. But if there is even a grain of truth to it, well, we have some cool things to look forward to.

Personally I do believe that we are born with more than the physical (obvious) side to us. I believe in souls and that there really is a spiritual side. So yeah, that is me. Good topic. :)

I suppose I don't see a necessary link between spirituality and a belief in the soul. When asked what a soul is, a canned, incoherent response normally follows, and I am hereby convinced that nobody can really describe what the soul is because they have never given the idea much thought. I prefer to investigate my condition and behave accordingly instead of accept this idea from people who can't tell me what a soul is in the first place. No, the spiritual aspect does not stop when the body dies; if there is such an aspect, it is not localized within us but is instead a single phenomenon.

[NikolaiI]

I suppose I don't see a necessary link between spirituality and a belief in the soul. When asked what a soul is, a canned, incoherent response normally follows, and I am hereby convinced that nobody can really describe what the soul is because they have never given the idea much thought. I prefer to investigate my condition and behave accordingly instead of accept this idea from people who can't tell me what a soul is in the first place. No, the spiritual aspect does not stop when the body dies; if there is such an aspect, it is not localized within us but is instead a single phenomenon.

There's absolutely not such a link. For instance, what about Buddhists, who believe in no-soul? Either they aren't spiritual, or believing in no-soul is a way of having a belief of the soul.

Also atheists can be spiritual........

My pastor said the soul is like a metaphor.

[kiz_paws]

I have died and came back. For me it was a very peaceful experience. All I cared about slipped away. I saw my brother who had passed. No white light just space. He was killed by a drunk driver. I was so happy to see him. I was in a space, it felt very different. Wonderful, a very good place... I have no words to discribe the feeling accurately. I wanted to stay in that space and wanted to enter and be with my brother Terry. He said no you have to go back it is not your time, your needed, I died and dad needs you. I insisted I stay as it was so beautiful of a feeling. He said no your time is not now. Go back. I was upset, I wanted to stay. I felt a gust of air fill my chest and doctor and nurses were worried and talking as I drifted back. The doctor said we thought we lost you. The nurse was nervous and I heard a heart monitor..beeping. I thought now why is that here near me, there is nothing wrong with me. I had a severe asthma attack and was in ICU....my heart stopped, my lungs, then I was back.

My father did need me... He died three years later the same day my brother did. I had to learn from my dad and I got to really bond with him, agian. I was back and I my horses were very important again. I have had the same horse for twenty eight years. When this occurance happened my horse was five years old. I live in the country out in the middle of no where. I do so for my horse. I have evolved and learned the importance of all living creatures and how each animal has a soul.

When I had to euthanise my dog Yeller, when he died, I felt an instant pulling out of my chest area. It flew out of me and up. I thought that must be my soul. I loved that dog very much. I will not forget that feeling either.

I worrie what will become of me when my horses die and my two old dogs. I wonder if that will be the end of my journey. I am in the mist of making my place a Wildlife Sanctuary. Yodels

That was very beautiful to share with us, thank you Yodels. And a warm welcome to LitNet, too, by the way.

You say that you worry what will become of you (last para). Don't expend energy on needless worrying -- as you brother told you in the NDE, 'it is not your time'. And so when your time comes, you will go peacefully and not fight it. I also wanted to say that I loved your communion with animals and their welfare. **hugs** Kizzo :)

[mcvv09]

I believe that there is an alternate form of consciousness, where the soul is all that there is, and it continues on our individual identity.

[Madhuri]

This particular link has something to say about the existence of soul.

http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/Gita/verse-02-20.html

The initial verse is in Sanskrit and below is the translation.

[NikolaiI]

This particular link has something to say about the existence of soul.

http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/Gita/verse-02-20.html

The initial verse is in Sanskrit and below is the translation.

Maybe that is best and most useful as a philosophical concept or religious concept? There are several versions of it that I am aware of; Krishna, God, Amida, and the idea is the same in these: give yourself fully to them, as in Krishna consciousness, loving God, or relinquishing self-power to Amida by saying NAMU-AMIDA-BUTSU. It seems the ideas of human imperfection and the necessity of true sincerity, as well as the ultimate futility of self-power compared with other-power, that we exhaust our self-power and eventually realize we need other-power, and also that eventually we realize that self-power comes from other power. Even those these seem complex, they seem to be characteristic of all. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[blazeofglory]

Life After Death ? Sounds Exciting. We Can Continuing Living.
Which Life Do We Assume After Death ? Human Life Or Animal Life Or Plant Life.