Literture without philosphy

[blazeofglory]

Literature has a message. It is just not a means of entertainement the way the other means of entertainment. When we say literary works it has a distint purpose or direction.

Literature in fact mirrors life and society.

But the problem lies in the fact that some people take literary works as sheet entertainers.

Literature does entertain, no doubt but it underlies a philosophy. Literature transforms us. The first book that transformed me was Tolstoy's resurrections. Now Khalil Gibran's prophet i swhat I feel the most transforming book.

Works of literture reflect our activites, and if the writer is efficient and highly sensitive they can plumbe some of the remotest receses of the human psyche. Kafka's stories and books for that matter are highly expressive of some of the suppressive human feelings.

I do not read just to pass my time. No doubt it helps me doing so, but I take it as a moral instructor or it is a medium through we understand what is happening in society.

This is my opinion about it. I do not know what you have to say

[Ludmila607]

I dont think it must be any oppossition on Liter and Philos.I started reading Literature.Wich means art expression, creation and beauty.
When I started reading Philosophy wich I did after...I did it on a Literarian way wich is wrong, beacuse you must face a Philosophy Book on a different way.Philosophy is reflection, thinking,trying to explain and interpretating the world.
Especulation based on reason and argument.Leaving emotions and impressions behind.it is somehow cold thinking...categorization,naming things...esquematization of reality.
it maybe feels a little cold on Philosophical corners and Philosophy learners use to be a little overgone and boring creatures.Anyway the world need both of them.Cold thinkers who think they are always right and bright creators looking for beauty.
There are some Philosopher very creative and coloured...as Nietszche, Pascal, Picco della Mirandola , Boecio ,Seneca , Fromm, Sartre,Bergson.They sound wise and good.
Enjoyable speculation.

[Ludmila607]

Literature has a message. It is just not a means of entertainement the way the other means of entertainment. When we say literary works it has a distint purpose or direction.

Literature in fact mirrors life and society.

But the problem lies in the fact that some people take literary works as sheet entertainers.

Literature does entertain, no doubt but it underlies a philosophy. Literature transforms us. The first book that transformed me was Tolstoy's resurrections. Now Khalil Gibran's prophet i swhat I feel the most transforming book.

Works of literture reflect our activites, and if the writer is efficient and highly sensitive they can plumbe some of the remotest receses of the human psyche. Kafka's stories and books for that matter are highly expressive of some of the suppressive human feelings.

I do not read just to pass my time. No doubt it helps me doing so, but I take it as a moral instructor or it is a medium through we understand what is happening in society.

This is my opinion about it. I do not know what you have to say

I particulary love this message.
Think different.
Be different.
Please!!

[Broken mirror]

Very interesting posts. I think that not every literature contains a philosophical message. Do the books of Dan Brown, John le Carré or even Agatha Christie contain any philosophical message?

Then, there are many great writers that are probably, fify-fifty, writers and philosophers. Sometimes their works are even better than big theoretical and abstract books of philosophers. Or, at least, more useful. I admit, this comment is pretty shallow, but I will die and no God will look after me, so I'm more worried about life than about death. I want good, pleasant, useful books. I want books to teach me, for having better life and deeper feelings.

Shakespeare, Kafka, Tolstoy, Dostoyevski, Voltaire, Nietzsche (he's really a writer), Boccaccio, Mann, Unamuno, Sartre, Javier Marías, they all taught me something about life more important than distant speculations about the nature of things, space, time and all this stuff. Of course, speculations and abstract thinkings are also very interesting, but I definitely prefer the literary wisdom to the philosophical one. It's like another way of thinking.

[Ludmila607]

Are you at Catalunya?if you like poetry try to find the Literary Magazine Le Veu Dels Poetes(artesanal publication)and read it ,it is very enjoyable.And I write there...
As for your comment.I think you can do a Philosophical overview to any Book.Agatha Cristie who wrotes misterie novels touch some human aspects that can be discussed on an Ethic conversation(Ethic it is a Philosophical discipline)or class.
Why do the Agatha Cristie murderers commit their crimes????Most of them, if not all of them are Ambition Crimes ,commited for money or for an Object.There are not emotions involved.Only human insatiability...ambition and egotism.This is something that leaves to a philosophical reflection strating by Wise Mistery books.
I love Agatha, by the way.

[blazeofglory]

Are you at Catalunya?if you like poetry try to find the Literary Magazine Le Veu Dels Poetes(artesanal publication)and read it ,it is very enjoyable.And I write there...
As for your comment.I think you can do a Philosophical overview to any Book.Agatha Cristie who wrotes misterie novels touch some human aspects that can be discussed on an Ethic conversation(Ethic it is a Philosophical discipline)or class.
Why do the Agatha Cristie murderers commit their crimes????Most of them, if not all of them are Ambition Crimes ,commited for money or for an Object.There are not emotions involved.Only human insatiability...ambition and egotism.This is something that leaves to a philosophical reflection strating by Wise Mistery books.
I love Agatha, by the way.

I read once Agatha, and her works are really thrilling. But these days I switched to classics.

Claisscs ar emy favorite for they are really revealing.

[Ludmila607]

I am really impacted by the Oz and the HAmmer!!!!
I was just thinking if all opressed awake conscience and take the tool...it wont be enough to make a revolution.Human miseries are inside of us.
Until we wont destroy all of our inner miseries the world wont be changing.
We can be Scotish Good sensed , Nieszchtean nihilist, religious as a Pascal or empty as a bone ,and that a choice.
it is better to help whos near than trying to save the hole world!!
This is not Posmodernist speech but a real conviction.
Do you agree to Nietszche when he says HAPPINESS IS FOR ENGLISHMEN?

[Demian]

I enjoy literature also not just for the sheer pleasure of reading but also for a glimpse into what is beautiful and sublime. Good literature not only may offer moral 'parables', but also enriches our perspective in many other areas of life as well. It can disclose new windows on realities we have not seen. Literature endures for the same reason as all the arts do--because it opens our hearts to what is eternal.

[blazeofglory]

I enjoy literature also not just for the sheer pleasure of reading but also for a glimpse into what is beautiful and sublime. Good literature not only may offer moral 'parables', but also enriches our perspective in many other areas of life as well. It can disclose new windows on realities we have not seen. Literature endures for the same reason as all the arts do--because it opens our hearts to what is eternal.

You are absolutely right, for literature is a great source of inspiration and when there are elements of philosophy it becomes really dually appealing. one we enjoy the taste of literature that transport us to a world of imagination and at the same time it indirectly and unwittingly teach us something we very desperately want to know in life.

In my case the very passion for literature and philosophy motivated me to learn the English language, for until my graduation from a college in Nepal I could not understand things written in English and the very passion for it got me where now I can easily communicate with any one in this medium of communication. I can understand sacred texts in Sanskrit, one of the, perhaps the most advanced language in the world.

That means literature creates passions. Actually speaking when we read books of literature we go swayed by its emotional fervors and we can, in fact I can keep on reading novels for almost twenty four hours a day and I can not do the same reading other books.

It has really widened my perspective on life, on people.

Books of literature with elements of philosophy condensed can really guide us in life. Let us together expand our horizon of thinking and broaden our attitudes towards our fellow beings irregardless of nationality or religious or cultural attributes.

[mcvv09]

Your posts are a true source of inspiration. I used to believe that literature was simply imitation, but there were several books that made me change my mind. i then read Proust's major novel and joyce's portrait of the artist as a young man and brothers k. These books had much philosophy, but proved that art is the most interesting.

[blazeofglory]

Your posts are a true source of inspiration. I used to believe that literature was simply imitation, but there were several books that made me change my mind. i then read Proust's major novel and joyce's portrait of the artist as a young man and brothers k. These books had much philosophy, but proved that art is the most interesting.

I Suggest the Prophet of Khalil Gibran is something you will find really appealing. personally I like Dostoevsky also. He was really a great writer and Sartre was also immensely influenced by his books. If you really want know how people are in predicaments in today's world, Kafka is unbeatable.

The choice of books depend on interests also.

But I feel if one can gets books that meet two ends entertaining and revealing
such books need to be chosen.

It is really hard to choose a good book from a thousand, yet if one accustome oneself to such things, gradually he can choose the books that ar more revealing.