God and the Devil in interaction

[blazeofglory]

I choose God and condemen the Devil. But it is for fear of the Devil I invented God. How can there be priests and sacred people if there were no thoughts of the Devil.

Who will admire the Sun if there is no darkness? They exist side by side. If there was no coldness we never would have the idea of warmth. And that warmth did not exist without the existence of coldness and both partake o fone another and both comilment one another, hinging upon one another.

If there was no hatred, and if there was no opposition and antagonism how can you think about a protagonist in your love story who live and die for love and these are so intertiwined that they live inseparable.

Onething is very true that every laughter ingrains tears and every joy does not go without sorrows and you can not be happy continusouly without being unhappy after a time.

You will have a clear sky after a rainy day or days and you can not see the existence of one without the other.

Sometimes we can see elements of divinity in the Devil and in Divinity elements of evils.

This is a subtle truth and ordinarily they do not seem to exist but deepdown they do.

We must try to understand these facts and we understand only if we meditate deeeply on elemental facts about life and how it flows endlessly in this vast universe.

Jesus has therefore had no sense of or feeling of enimity with anyone in the world and to him every one was equal and he did not group people along lines of friends and foes.

Writing this I am philosphizing the fact but to realize this I neeed to undergo several statges in life.

[Orpheus]

"I choose God and condemen the Devil. But it is for fear of the Devil I invented God. How can there be priests and sacred people if there were no thoughts of the Devil."

Funny, when I was a christian (long ago) it was God, I was taught, that I should fear; and though the Devil should tempt me, it is my faith in God that should persevere. Perhaps my faith wasn't so strong. hehehe.

Your question, in my opinion, is rather irrelevant to whether or not God or the Devil can exhist. Priests serve God and teach what is of God. And sure some have focused more on the Devil than others, but what does this really matter in an argument of dualism?

"Who will admire the Sun if there is no darkness? They exist side by side. If there was no coldness we never would have the idea of warmth. And that warmth did not exist without the existence of coldness and both partake o fone another and both comilment one another, hinging upon one another."

I agree that if put into the traditional sense of a God, one cannot exist without the other. If you assume that this is true then you must also establish a domain for the Devil/Satan/Evil, whatever you want to call him. God has Heaven, so where is the devil? I don't believe in the whole lake of fire, gnashing of teath, torture for all eternity bs. However, this is not my thread and I don't want to get too off topic. If you would like to know about my perspective on God, the devil, heaven and hell, I would be willing to talk about it, however, I don't think that it would fit with the present discussion.

"Sometimes we can see elements of divinity in the Devil and in Divinity elements of evils."

You mentioned the word "see" in this post. Sight is a sense within the empirical mind. By saying that you can see these elements, you are establishing "your" reality, which is an entirely different discussion. You're seeing what you want to see.

From a christian sense this would make complete sense. Satan is the great deciever and would want you to believe that he is divine, on par with god or above.

"Jesus has therefore had no sense of or feeling of enimity with anyone in the world and to him every one was equal and he did not group people along lines of friends and foes."

This is untrue according to what is written of him. Jesus had great enmity for the Pharasees, who only paid lip service to God and cared more about the rewards of men than those from God. They remind me so much of modern day televangelists. Also I am sure you are aware of the passage "He who is not with me is against me."

"Writing this I am philosphizing the fact but to realize this I neeed to undergo several statges in life."

What do you mean by this? Are you referring to age? It is never wrong for a Philosopher to ask questions. In fact the only thing needed to be a good philosopher is the faculty of wonder.

[bibliophile190]

Um. What exactly was the point of it? I mean, I agreed with a lot of the points, but they all seemed rather disconnected. Of course, I'm sure most of the problem is that my philosophical knowledge is very sparse. Perhaps you could recommend some good philosophical books that could help me?

[Logos]

I choose God and condemen the Devil. But it is for fear of the Devil I invented God. How can there be priests and sacred people if there were no thoughts of the Devil.
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Sometimes we can see elements of divinity in the Devil and in Divinity elements of evils.
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Jesus has therefore had no sense of or feeling of enimity with anyone in the world and to him every one was equal and he did not group people along lines of friends and foes.
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