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PrinceMyshkin
06-26-2007, 11:01 AM
that people (mostly of the opposite sex, 'less you're gay) most usually fail to see?

Pensive
06-26-2007, 01:06 PM
Nothing, I think they are able to see everything in me a person from my sex is.

kiobe
06-26-2007, 01:14 PM
that people (mostly of the opposite sex, 'less you're gay) most usually fail to see?

My inner wonderfulness.;)

Scharphedin2
06-26-2007, 01:17 PM
That I often find them to be wonderful and magical creatures ;)

Scheherazade
06-26-2007, 01:19 PM
My amazing mental capacity:

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4443/homersbrainis2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

PrinceMyshkin
06-26-2007, 01:22 PM
My amazing mental capacity:

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4443/homersbrainis2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Why then do you hang around with dolts!!!

Niamh
06-26-2007, 02:00 PM
who i really am.

Bakiryu
06-26-2007, 02:16 PM
who i really am. The Opposite (and the same) sex just tend to judge me as a black-clothed, book-carriying, emo kid, Not worth their while.

RobinHood3000
06-26-2007, 02:21 PM
...is this an anatomical trick question? :confused: ;)

My sincerity. I think.

Riesa
06-26-2007, 02:50 PM
the core of the maelstrom :)

andave_ya
06-26-2007, 03:35 PM
that my geekhood is really rather fun and interesting, :P

Idril
06-26-2007, 03:47 PM
Many, many things. I like to think of myself as very complex. :D :lol: :p

BibliophileTRJ
06-26-2007, 03:51 PM
The opposite sex rarely sees me at all..... or they try not to.

The same sex (since you brought it up and I AM....) rarely sees that I'm a kind quiet gentle person.

Both sexes see my short, fat, scarred ugly, battered looking, bushy bearded, finger-missing body and assume that I must BE the troll/ogre that I resemble; when nothing could be farther from the truth.

littlewing53
06-26-2007, 03:58 PM
bib...hilarious as usual...could not help but to comment on your comment...now what was this post abt???

that i can be calm and quiet...

PrinceMyshkin
06-26-2007, 04:13 PM
Many, many things. I like to think of myself as very complex. :D :lol: :p

Oh, you are! And I promise NEVER to try to figure you out!

BibliophileTRJ
06-26-2007, 04:20 PM
bib...hilarious as usual...could not help but to comment on your comment.

Oddly enough, that was one post that I wasn't trying to be humorous in..... that's just the way my life is.

Bartholomew
06-26-2007, 04:27 PM
My extensive porno collection.

PrinceMyshkin
06-26-2007, 04:30 PM
...is this an anatomical trick question? :confused: ;)

Busted! And I was hoping for some pretty graphic descriptions, maybe with accompanying photos.

PrinceMyshkin
06-26-2007, 04:31 PM
That I'm not nearly as confident as I pretend to be.

Moira
06-27-2007, 03:47 AM
that people (mostly of the opposite sex, 'less you're gay) most usually fail to see?

Interesting question, i'll think about that.

Actually i've come to the conclusion that I tend to see and care about things that most people don't even notice..... small things some times that may be hard to even notice but that's what makes someone special.

manolia
06-27-2007, 07:36 AM
My good intentions :lol:

Idril
06-27-2007, 09:00 AM
bib...hilarious as usual...could not help but to comment on your comment...

I didn't think it was funny, I thought it was a really vulnerable admission and it made me a little sad for Biblio, although the bright spot is that we know at least one person saw through the troll-like exterior and made him a happy man. ;)

BibliophileTRJ
06-27-2007, 10:22 AM
I didn't think it was funny, I thought it was a really vulnerable admission and it made me a little sad for Biblio, although the bright spot is that we know at least one person saw through the troll-like exterior and made him a happy man. ;)

That's very sweet, Idril; but don't be sad for me..... There ARE benefits to being a soft-hearted troll. First among them are the fact that pretty much anyone who befriends me is a person WORTHY of friendship. Clearly they are not interested in me because of my looks or my money.... I have neither. They are someone that can see beyond the superficial and they place a value on what I have to offer.

At this point in my life I would absolutely NOT want to be one of the "beautiful people".

Pensive
06-27-2007, 10:55 AM
That's very sweet, Idril; but don't be sad for me..... There ARE benefits to being a soft-hearted troll. First among them are the fact that pretty much anyone who befriends me is a person WORTHY of friendship. Clearly they are not interested in me because of my looks or my money.... I have neither. They are someone that can see beyond the superficial and they place a value on what I have to offer.

At this point in my life I would absolutely NOT want to be one of the "beautiful people".

When I was little and heard any woman complaining of her ugliness (by the standard of physical beauty in our area), I would always think she was lucky. At least someone wouldn't marry her by her looks then! :p

I think loving one's characteristics and understanding them is the love which is more lasting. Because this shows the 'choice' of your loved one. What he would be like if he had had a choice. There is more 'choice' and 'battle inside oneself' while developing the personality I think than in your physical attributes.

littlewing53
06-27-2007, 12:56 PM
:bawling: bib..i am ever so sorry for misreading your comment...i would have never hurt you intentionally...is there one who has never misread or made a mistake in seeing something that was not there...happy, sad, black or white...it has been said...beauty is in the eye of the beholder...are we all powerless to words that have been spoken...

BibliophileTRJ
06-27-2007, 01:46 PM
:bawling: bib..i am ever so sorry for misreading your comment...i would have never hurt you intentionally...is there one who has never misread or made a mistake in seeing something that was not there...happy, sad, black or white...it has been said...beauty is in the eye of the beholder...are we all powerless to words that have been spoken...

LittleWing my dear,

No need to apologize.... no harm done, no feelings hurt.

It is VERY easy to misread the intention and/or tone of these posts... you're right it happens to all of us. In fact, I've said the same thing that I posted to people in the past and they mistook it for a joke even though they could hear my tone of voice and see the look on my face at the time.

Scheherazade
06-27-2007, 01:48 PM
At this point in my life I would absolutely NOT want to be one of the "beautiful people".Ah, finally someone who won't be envious of me! :p

Bib, I am delighted to read your posts; seems like you have reached a stage where you have accepted and are comfortable with who you are. Unless we achieve that ourselves first, we cannot expect it from others, I believe. :thumbs_up :)

Speaking personally, I cannot claim to have got 'there' yet.

Mortis Anarchy
06-27-2007, 03:56 PM
That I can actually be serious at times, that I am actually pretty timid on the inside...

Its hard when peoples definition of beauty is exactly what you are not...and once you try to act exactly like what you are not then I think you end up loosing yourself and not being true to everyone else around you. Its better to be proud of yourself and like yourself than to try and cover it all up with todays definition of beauty.

PrinceMyshkin
06-27-2007, 04:08 PM
That I can actually be serious at times, that I am actually pretty timid on the inside...

Its hard when peoples definition of beauty is exactly what you are not...and once you try to act exactly like what you are not then I think you end up loosing yourself and not being true to everyone else around you. Its better to be proud of yourself and like yourself than to try and cover it all up with todays definition of beauty.

Wonderful note. I've always said that the test of a good relationship is whether you like yoursel better when you're with that other person. But it might equally be that you're not self-conscious, not preoccupied with how you're coming across.

Mortis Anarchy
06-27-2007, 07:30 PM
Wonderful note. I've always said that the test of a good relationship is whether you like yoursel better when you're with that other person. But it might equally be that you're not self-conscious, not preoccupied with how you're coming across.

I'd like to say that I'm not self-conscious, but sometimes I am...I am human.:) I don't really show it on the outside. Again it goes back to my confident exterior and my rather timid interior. I don't go around however acting like someone else or dressing to fit in with the 'in' crowd. I may be a little self-conscious but no one can really tell...only because my stronger side squashes the thought. I hope that makes sense.:)

Bakiryu
06-27-2007, 07:35 PM
I'm a very self-concious person, always changing my personality to fit in. i'm also *even thought most people think i'm not* extremely shy and easily hurt.

the silent x
06-27-2007, 08:54 PM
I'm a very self-concious person, always changing my personality to fit in. i'm also *even thought most people think i'm not* extremely shy and easily hurt.

since when? just kiddin

i formed a block against other people in elementary school,i used to be like that, now i'm the cargo wearing kid with a book in one pocket, two pencils, some money and an ipod, your everyday teenager who is a shallow looking chasm. i don't let anyone in until they prove theor loyalty to me, then they get stuck their for eternity, kind of like a chosen prison, sorta

many people don't see my eyes, or my amazing ability to be th ebest vent in the world(emotional vent, someone you can tell anything tobetter than a psychiatrist because you don't pay, and there's no time limit

Bakiryu
06-27-2007, 09:02 PM
In elementary I used to be the fight kid. You know what I mean, that kid who's always suspended, witht the black eye and the ripped clothes *blush*. I thought there was nothing more enjoyable than a good, bloody fight. I am like a wall. I ignore people until they find a way to get in and then, zap! They can't get out.

I'm mostly a normal emo kid, you know, black clothes, black hair. 3 books in backpack, metal-spike necklace. I guess that's why people judge me. Because of my appearance.

Brigitte
06-27-2007, 09:19 PM
The Opposite (and the same) sex just tend to judge me as a black-clothed, book-carriying, emo kid, Not worth their while.

lollerskates. oh, agreed. although, there are lots of emo kids/scene kids at my school. I just don't talk to people much... 'cus I'm emo. :lol: But it's true.

But anyway, most people don't see my super silly fun side. I look mostly serious (prob 'cus I don't talk a lot).. but I'm always smiling. Inside I'm: :bawling:

Shalot
06-27-2007, 10:01 PM
My extensive porno collection.


he he. well if you can't share your porn then there was never anything there to begin with

kilted exile
06-27-2007, 10:03 PM
That I am the centre of the universe. Enough of this nonsense being taught about planets revolving around the Sun. Everything revolves around me dagnamit.

the silent x
06-27-2007, 10:09 PM
That I am the centre of the universe. Enough of this nonsense being taught about planets revolving around the Sun. Everything revolves around me dagnamit.

(chanted in monotone)
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,

kathycf
06-27-2007, 10:16 PM
he he. well if you can't share your porn then there was never anything there to begin with
:lol: :lol: :thumbs_up


That I am the centre of the universe. Enough of this nonsense being taught about planets revolving around the Sun. Everything revolves around me dagnamit.


(chanted in monotone)
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,


Don't encourage him! He will get so puffed up, he will float away like some kilt wearing hot air balloon. :)

I guess what people fail to see is that underneath this wild and tempestuous beauty is the brain of, well, just a brain I guess. ;)



(I don't think people see that I am really worth something....)

kilted exile
06-27-2007, 10:24 PM
(chanted in monotone)
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,
that is true master exile,

I could get to like this, and who exactly said you could stop. I demand the praise I deserve



Don't encourage him! He will get so puffed up, he will float away like some kilt wearing hot air balloon. :)

Bah, nonsense. I have such a strong gravitational pull I could never float away

Mortis Anarchy
06-27-2007, 10:57 PM
:lol: :lol: :thumbs_up





Don't encourage him! He will get so puffed up, he will float away like some kilt wearing hot air balloon. :)

I guess what people fail to see is that underneath this wild and tempestuous beauty is the brain of, well, just a brain I guess. ;)



(I don't think people see that I am really worth something....)

OH BUT I SEE IT!!:D

Redzeppelin
06-28-2007, 01:09 AM
I think the opposite sex is totally fooled by what I present when I'm "on" performing as a teacher or musician...and what they don't see is that I'm terribly self-conscious, terrified of rejection and haunted by the feeling that I've never really fit in anywhere in this life; that I really have much to say once they get to know me and am desperate to fearlessly know and be known by a woman...that I'm much more than I apppear to be (which I don't think appears to be anything but average).

My, that sounds a bit _______. :redface:

Mortis Anarchy
06-28-2007, 01:19 AM
I think the opposite sex is totally fooled by what I present when I'm "on" performing as a teacher or musician...and what they don't see is that I'm terribly self-conscious, terrified of rejection and haunted by the feeling that I've never really fit in anywhere in this life; that I really have much to say once they get to know me and am desperate to fearlessly know and be known by a woman...that I'm much more than I apppear to be (which I don't think appears to be anything but average).

My, that sounds a bit _______. :redface:

Wow...dead on man. Dead on.

kathycf
06-28-2007, 01:23 AM
Bah, nonsense. I have such a strong gravitational pull I could never float away

But is that something to be proud of? Pluto has a strong gravitational pull too, doesn't it? That's probably the most boring planet EVER. ;) :p

Brigitte
06-28-2007, 01:23 AM
I think the opposite sex is totally fooled by what I present when I'm "on" performing as a teacher or musician...and what they don't see is that I'm terribly self-conscious, terrified of rejection and haunted by the feeling that I've never really fit in anywhere in this life; that I really have much to say once they get to know me and am desperate to fearlessly know and be known by a woman...that I'm much more than I apppear to be (which I don't think appears to be anything but average).

My, that sounds a bit _______. :redface:

I really really like what you've said. Props to you. Seriously.

Redzeppelin
06-28-2007, 01:29 AM
Wow...dead on man. Dead on.


I really really like what you've said. Props to you. Seriously.


You are both too kind - thank you for your generous words :)

Mortis Anarchy
06-28-2007, 01:30 AM
No, I think, or at least for me, you have hit my inner fears straight on! Its insane! Only, you put them down better than I had! Thank you!:)

motherhubbard
06-28-2007, 01:35 AM
I wish my husband could see that I need his help more.

Mortis Anarchy
06-28-2007, 01:36 AM
I wish my husband could see that I need his help more.

That makes me want to cry.

applepie
06-28-2007, 01:46 AM
People don't see my anger. For some reason I am angry almost all the time. I've been this way for more years than I care to count and I don't know where I get my bottomless pit of churning rage. It is just there and tends to drive most of my life. It drives my ambition and desire to spite the world with sucess that no one expects. Some days it leaves me in a state of rage that I can only offer kindness to my children and husband. The only people safe are those closest to me and even then it pours over onto them once in a while. Take my mom, she is like a best friend to me, but at 16 I didn't speak to her for 6 months after a horrible argument. My husband left for 6 months on a deployment with the military and I didn't miss his presence until about 2 months before he returned home because we had been having marriage trouble. I don't have a hot rage, it is like I get pushed only so far then I just go cold. If you are not someone whom I love dearly then I never warm back up.

Brigitte
06-28-2007, 01:51 AM
I wish my husband could see that I need his help more.


That makes me want to cry.

Yes, you phrased it so simply... I can just sense the emotion. I don't want to say "desperate need" because that's not what I mean. I can feel your sincerity.

On a funny note, just call out for him and say, "Yo... man! I need your help. Fo' sho!" Ahaha... I feel so gangster right now. :lol:

It's always nice when someone rises to the occasion but since your husband might not be all that in tune with your needs just ask. I'm sure he'd be more than willing if you're nice.

Mortis Anarchy
06-28-2007, 01:54 AM
I wish my dad was home more...that way he could see that yes I am a young adult, but I still need my dad.


Yes, you phrased it so simply... I can just sense the emotion. I don't want to say "desperate need" because that's not what I mean. I can feel your sincerity.

On a funny note, just call out for him and say, "Yo... man! I need your help. Fo' sho!" Ahaha... I feel so gangster right now. :lol:

It's always nice when someone rises to the occasion but since your husband might not be all that in tune with your needs just ask. I'm sure he'd be more than willing if you're nice.

Same thing happened to my mom. She was depressed and angry all the time. Then one day she just snapped and yelled at my dad telling him that she needs him to be more helpful. He is pretty helpful now.:D

Moira
06-28-2007, 01:57 AM
I think the opposite sex is totally fooled by what I present when I'm "on" performing as a teacher or musician...and what they don't see is that I'm terribly self-conscious, terrified of rejection and haunted by the feeling that I've never really fit in anywhere in this life; that I really have much to say once they get to know me and am desperate to fearlessly know and be known by a woman...that I'm much more than I apppear to be (which I don't think appears to be anything but average).

My, that sounds a bit _______. :redface:

Not many people have a way with words like you do.
Thanks for sharing that, it's always a pleasure reading your posts. ;)

motherhubbard
06-28-2007, 01:58 AM
He is wonderful to me, but I hate to ask for help. I want to do it all, and a lot of the times I think I do it better. But sometimes I think he likes that I don't ask for help, or takes for granted that I can just do everything. Then when other men do something around the house or take the kids for an hour he doesn't understand that that's what men should do.

Mortis Anarchy
06-28-2007, 02:03 AM
He is wonderful to me, but I hate to ask for help. I want to do it all, and a lot of the times I think I do it better. But sometimes I think he likes that I don't ask for help, or takes for granted that I can just do everything. Then when other men do something around the house or take the kids for an hour he doesn't understand that that's what men should do.

I think the best thing to do is to let him know that you may be wonder woman, but even wonder woman needs a break. Even Wonder woman needs a little help from super man.:)

I hate asking for help too, but in the long run I think it people benfit from asking for help. We are human after all.

motherhubbard
06-28-2007, 02:15 AM
sounds good on paper, doesn't it!

Mortis Anarchy
06-28-2007, 02:16 AM
Give it a shot. You might be surprised.

or why not put it on paper?

Riesa
06-28-2007, 02:20 AM
He is wonderful to me, but I hate to ask for help. I want to do it all, and a lot of the times I think I do it better. But sometimes I think he likes that I don't ask for help, or takes for granted that I can just do everything. Then when other men do something around the house or take the kids for an hour he doesn't understand that that's what men should do.
no, you must take your time.

and by take, I mean TAKE your time.

applepie
06-28-2007, 02:51 AM
He is wonderful to me, but I hate to ask for help. I want to do it all, and a lot of the times I think I do it better. But sometimes I think he likes that I don't ask for help, or takes for granted that I can just do everything. Then when other men do something around the house or take the kids for an hour he doesn't understand that that's what men should do.

I think I know how you feel. I hate to ask for help also, but there is this part that just assumes that they know you need the help and should be offering it up. We have this problem in my house also, and I tend to suck it up and just push harder but normally if I were to just ask for the help it would be given. Hang in there and don't forget to ask for that hour or two away or help with the dishwasher or whatever needs accomplished:) By the way, I'm sure you likely are doing things better, but having it not quite perfect but recieving the help is nice too. Just curve the urge to go behind and touch up where you though it was lacking. My husband hates when I do that:D

Brigitte
06-28-2007, 03:27 AM
He is wonderful to me, but I hate to ask for help. I want to do it all, and a lot of the times I think I do it better. But sometimes I think he likes that I don't ask for help, or takes for granted that I can just do everything. Then when other men do something around the house or take the kids for an hour he doesn't understand that that's what men should do.

Hm... it's rare, but my aunt's husband does so much. He never has to be asked, he just helps out around the house and yaddayadda. He is Japanese, and his parents raised him very well so that may have something to do with it.

In any case, even if he doesn't do it right, let him do it his way. They get discouraged if a woman tells him, "No, that's not right" because then their excuse is, "I don't know how. You do it." Tsk. So.. just let them sort things out and learn. ^_^

Heh, try leaving him a post-it near the fridge, "Can you make dinner tonight?" and go out to the mall. Ahaha.. see what happens (they gotta get hungry eventually). ;]

Nossa
06-28-2007, 06:56 AM
I'm a pretty quiet person when I'm around people..I barely talk..and I'm usually even shy when talked to..so people normaly think of me as someone who doesn't know a thing about the world and has no opinions whatsoever...and this is a problem I face with many people cuz they tend to underestimate me as an individual...I mean, I'm not saying that I'm a brilliant, perfect, too-good-to-be-true kinda girl, but I hate the shallow look that people have sometimes...esp. cuz I'm a veiled person, and veiled Muslim girls have the reputation of being generaly dumb..which is utterly wrong.
So I think peoepl fail to see ME at all...and maybe it's partialy my fault...but still, if you really wanna know people you gotta try to dig deeper..I guess.

Domer121
06-28-2007, 09:36 AM
I think because I am so outgoing people take that as confidence....truth is, I am not as self confident as I would like...and for being a young blonde I would probabley surprise people with what I know about the world.

Nossa
06-28-2007, 09:44 AM
I think because I am so outgoing people take that as confidence....truth is, I am not as self confident as I would like...and for being a young blonde I would probabley surprise people with what I know about the world.

I think the way people regard blones, is merely stereotyping and completely dumb if you ask me. Being an air-head doesn't have to do with the color of your hair..you'll be amazed by the number of superficial girls I've met, who happen to be burnettes. lol

PrinceMyshkin
06-28-2007, 09:50 AM
I think because I am so outgoing people take that as confidence....truth is, I am not as self confident as I would like...and for being a young blonde I would probabley surprise people with what I know about the world.

But do you really expect us not to be curious about what it is you know about the world?

Redzeppelin
06-28-2007, 11:21 AM
Not many people have a way with words like you do.
Thanks for sharing that, it's always a pleasure reading your posts. ;)

I am humbled by your kindness. Thank you.

kilted exile
06-28-2007, 12:49 PM
But is that something to be proud of? Pluto has a strong gravitational pull too, doesn't it? That's probably the most boring planet EVER. ;) :p

Yes, Pluto (silly non planet) is very boring. I am not some useless planet however, I am the only thing holding the universe together which makes be incredibly interesting:p