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Diceman
05-02-2004, 10:21 PM
Hi folks

I have been working my way through Fowles' literature of late, and completed "The Magus" a couple of weeks ago.

Like all his books, I found the story to be thoroughly absorbing. Once picked up, I'd work through large swathes of it before stopping for a break. Much of the story rang very true for me. Fowles perfectly captured the psyche of an aimless twentysomething male - no discernible roots, no goals, looking for the next big thing. I've heard that The Magus is best read as a young adult, but I reckon a lot of it would have gone past me. Now as a thirty-two year old I see the relevance to young adults a lot better than I would have done back then.

Unlike Fowles other books, this time I'm left with one burning feeling: exactly what was the point of it all? I think I picked up the major themes well enough: Conchis' "godgame" was ultimately a lesson in freedom, in being responsible for one's own path. At some point one must cease becoming and start being. I appreciate that Fowles left the ending open to interpretation in order that the reader might read his own insights into it all - and I guess that's what I'm trying to do now. I have gone back and re-read a number of passages in an effort to better understand it all.

The third part, through which Nicholas tried to explain the whole affair via detective work, seemed hollow to me: surely one of Conchis' bigger lessons was that actively looking for reasons would produce nothing? Nicholas himself came to this conclusion when returning to "The Earth" after the affair, so why does he blatantly ignore the lesson?

By the end of the "godgame", it was impossible to tell what was real and what was not. This unreality spilled over into Nicholas' life back in London. Is this the great message of the novel? That there is no objective reality, that a manufactured situation is no less valid or invalid than a "real" one, and that one has to live with one's accepted reality as best one can?

In the foreword, Fowles mentioned that the book was like a Rorschach test: what it meant was exactly what the perceiver saw in it. So I'm keen to hear what other people got out of the story. Anyone else out there got some thoughts they'd like to share?

Diceman
05-03-2004, 11:51 PM
Hello? Anyone? Surely someone out there must have read The Magus?

simon
05-04-2004, 01:21 AM
Sorry I havent heard of The Magus, but John Fowles sounds framiliar, what else has he written?

Diceman
05-04-2004, 09:08 PM
What else? The Collector, The French Lieutenant's Woman, The Ebony Tower, Mantissa, A Maggot...

vazupha
09-19-2005, 04:08 PM
heyyyyyyy,i m a new member here.i think i should have joined before.it s toooooooo late to reply but Diceman i read The Magus.I even prepared a research paper on it.I wish i could have discussed it with u when u finished reading it and when u were very eager to share ur ideas.I also read The Collector,The French Lietunant's Woman,Mantissa and Daniel Martin-but not whole:( - I wish i could read all of his novels soon.i think u read all of his books:)

BuzzyMizz
11-07-2006, 12:42 PM
Two years later since your post, i have stumbled upon The Magus and Just finished it... One of the main themes that jumped to my eye in the book was the meditation on choices, and on the powerful position of the one who chooses...
The most relevant scene in this aspect and the most meaningfull was the one in which young Concis is put in a terrible situation to either kill three tortured men or to get killed himself together with the other 80, and he realises that he is the only one that can choose the outcome in that set, no matter what the outcome, it's all in his power.
Nicholas is inclined to run off the beaten track and look for excitement somewhere outside himself because he isn't attached to much in his world. So he takes what seems to be of-the-wall choices, he goes to teach in Greece. He meets Allison, acknowledges her 'spell' over him, but still considers hers a not interesting track.
The adventures on the Greek island chench his thirst for the unknown and excitement and confirm his intuitions that there are deeper, more meaningfull things to be explored rather than just live a normal life.

What then follows is that he gets caught into a sort of spidernet woven by Concis and his allies and he doesnt know who or what to trust anymore. To me the bulk of the book seemed like a blueprint on life. The situations change, get redefined, uncertainty in himself and others bemuse him just as we are bemused, hurt, intrigued, in our lives. There is no way to ‚tell’ or to know for sure a ‚real’ answer on how things stand, even with his detective work, and there is no way of knowing why things stand like that. In the end he realises he was chasing shadows and is tired and finds anchor within himself and gets out of the game.

So he CHOSES Allison, the beaten path he was running away from, the one that he identifies now as 'real'. But Allison is the one, on the last scene, that is unable to let go of everything and unable to make a fresh choice, against the odds...

I don’t consider Nicholas the one who got burnt cos he didnt know what he wanted in life and got punished for not ‚wisely’ choosing good old loving Allison at the beginning. I think he lived and learnt more by being erratic as he seemed he was.As 'lousy' or aimless and without known purpose as he is, he never stagnates, he has the ability to just jump in then figure out why. Allison can’t, hers is a simple track, she simply loves him and she’s simply vindictive...She only plays ‚the baddie and the victim’ game... I find Nicholas more multifaceted and complex and human than her.
What do you think?
( english is not my mother tongue and i hope i got my idea across coherently if not show some mercy please)