[Feminine Dynamics]

[sinef]

Hello...

I wanted to learn about the feminine dynamics in gothic stories. ı have been reading Joyce Carol Oates's stories and Angela Carter's novel "The Magic Toyshop". In all of these special works, do you see some feminine dynamics?

If anyone can help me, ı would really be happy.
Thank you... with love... :wave:

[EAP]

What is this feminine dynamics that you speak of? Is it related to fluid mechanics?

[papayahed]

What is this feminine dynamics that you speak of? Is it related to fluid mechanics?
:lol: :lol:

[sinef]

What is this feminine dynamics that you speak of? Is it related to fluid mechanics?

:) let's say, feminism in gothic...

[dramasnot6]

feminism in gothic? You mean the feminist ideology expressed in a gothic genre?:confused:

[kathycf]

Hi there sinef :)

Do you mean strong and dynamic female characters, themes about women's lives, or are you referring to specific feminist ideology being expressed in the stories? There is a subtle difference between the two, at least to me.

It might help to also discuss which Oates stories you have been reading so we will have a frame of reference. I am not very familiar with Angela Carter, so I guess I won't be much help there.

[Behemoth]

Hey Sinef,
I haven't read anything by Joyce Carol Oates but The Magic Toyshop is brilliant isn't it? - in terms of feminine dynamics, I would suppose the relationship between Melanie and her aunt to be key, as they are the two strongest female protagonists. You also have the fact that her aunt is mute, possibly suggesting her being silenced by the patriarchy that Uncle Philip represents? They can only communicate with her through the chalkboard but even so this seems to be stronger than anything that is shared between the male characters. But I don't really know what you're looking for, just thinking out loud here :idea: A few more details would be helpful in answering your question.

[sinef]

Hi there sinef :)are you referring to specific feminist ideology being expressed in the stories?

hi :) ı guess ı am referring feminist ideology...
ı read Oates's "Phase Change", "The Guilty Party", The Death Mother", "The Hand-puppet"
And I see that in all of these stories there is always a woman who lives in obsession, despairs and paradoxes.
What I don't understand is the meaning of "experience". You know there are some femine dynamics; experience, excess and escape. It is hard to understand all these terms while reading.

I wish I could make myself clear... ;)


Hey Sinef,
I haven't read anything by Joyce Carol Oates but The Magic Toyshop is brilliant isn't it? - in terms of feminine dynamics, I would suppose the relationship between Melanie and her aunt to be key, as they are the two strongest female protagonists. You also have the fact that her aunt is mute, possibly suggesting her being silenced by the patriarchy that Uncle Philip represents? They can only communicate with her through the chalkboard but even so this seems to be stronger than anything that is shared between the male characters. But I don't really know what you're looking for, just thinking out loud here :idea: A few more details would be helpful in answering your question.


Thank you very much for your interpretations ;) yes, ıt is really a brilliant work of art. ı liked Carter's way of writing. I read the book just in a day. Carter's use of myths is so impressive. I also want to watch its movie but ı cannot find it here :(

Hmm... As I said, what ı am looking for are the feministic impressions in the stories.

[Mortis Anarchy]

Try Wieland...

[StinkiD]

If you're looking for feminine dynamics, a really good story to read is Angela Carter's version of Bluebeard 'The Bloody Chamber'. It's a really good read and gives a feministic spin on the story. Hope you enjoy!