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mandiebear
05-23-2007, 08:21 PM
Well, here's the deal, we had a test today in my English class and I got a quote wrong. It was marked wrong because I said the wrong characters for the quote and she didn't explain well enough for my likeing on why it was no the character was not Miss Bingly. I believe it might be an argueable matter, but I need to see if anyone could back me up. I will not use you all as a survey or anything, its more of to see if I should keep looking on the idea that I am right on the internet. So if you could please help me it would be great.

The quote she gave us is as follows:

"A woman must have a thorough knowledge of music, singing, drawing, dancing, all the modern languages, to deserve the word; and besides all this, she must possess a certain something in her air and manner of walking, the tone of her voice, her address and expressions, or the word will be but have deserved"
"All this she must possess... and to all this she must yet add something more substantial, in the improvement of her mind by extensive reading."

End

Now I have looked in the book because that does not help, so I have read before it a bit and after it a bit. If you need more than that part of the quote (which honestly I think many of you might because you may not have a copy in hand) I will be more than happy to help you out.

Thank you

nps_marina
05-24-2007, 04:35 AM
``Oh! certainly,'' cried his faithful assistant, ``no one can be really esteemed accomplished, who does not greatly surpass what is usually met with. A woman must have a thorough knowledge of music, singing, drawing, dancing, and the modern languages, to deserve the word; and besides all this, she must possess a certain something in her air and manner of walking, the tone of her voice, her address and expressions, or the word will be but half deserved.''

This is certainly Miss Bingley. Perhaps your teacher wanted you to give the name of the Miss Bingley, since in the book there are two sisters. In this case, it's the eldest Miss Bingley who is speaking. If you check in the beginning of the chapter, it says so: 'Miss Bingley was engrossed... her sister less so'
In the movie, there is only one Miss Bingley portrayed. Perhaps your teacher was trying to discern which of you people had read the book and which had seen the movie.


``All this she must possess,'' added Darcy, ``and to all this she must yet add something more substantial, in the improvement of her mind by extensive reading.''

That's spoken by Darcy (as the quote in itself reads).

Personally, I think that was hard on you, your teacher didn't have to flunk you straight out for missing half the quote (if he didn't allow you to use the book to check your sources), I mean, at least you weren't far off the mark. I guess it would be important to know that the second half is spoken by Darcy, since it gives an insight to his feelings towards Lizzie, which are starting to change (Lizzie is always reading, after all)... but from there to flunking... I think it's too severe.

Anyway! See ya!

sciencefan
05-24-2007, 07:33 AM
Well, here's the deal, we had a test today in my English class and I got a quote wrong. It was marked wrong because I said the wrong characters for the quote and she didn't explain well enough for my likeing on why it was no the character was not Miss Bingly. I believe it might be an argueable matter, but I need to see if anyone could back me up. I will not use you all as a survey or anything, its more of to see if I should keep looking on the idea that I am right on the internet. So if you could please help me it would be great.

The quote she gave us is as follows:

"A woman must have a thorough knowledge of music, singing, drawing, dancing, all the modern languages, to deserve the word; and besides all this, she must possess a certain something in her air and manner of walking, the tone of her voice, her address and expressions, or the word will be but have deserved"
"All this she must possess... and to all this she must yet add something more substantial, in the improvement of her mind by extensive reading."

End

Now I have looked in the book because that does not help, so I have read before it a bit and after it a bit. If you need more than that part of the quote (which honestly I think many of you might because you may not have a copy in hand) I will be more than happy to help you out.

Thank youElizabeth has gone to Netherfield to help take care of Jane who fell sick by her mother's design.
A conversation begins on the subject of "accomplished" women.

Oops. I didn't read closely enough.
I thought you were just quoting one character.
The first quote is by Caroline Bingley.
The second quotation was spoken by Darcy.

This conversation takes place in chapter 8.
http://www.online-literature.com/austen/prideprejudice/8/


``Then,'' observed Elizabeth, ``you must comprehend a great deal in your idea of an accomplished women.'' ELIZABETH

``Yes; I do comprehend a great deal in it.'' DARCY

``Oh! certainly,'' cried his faithful assistant, ``no one can be really esteemed accomplished, who does not greatly surpass what is usually met with. A woman must have a thorough knowledge of music, singing, drawing, dancing, and the modern languages, to deserve the word; and besides all this, she must possess a certain something in her air and manner of walking, the tone of her voice, her address and expressions, or the word will be but half deserved.'' CAROLINE BINGLEY

``All this she must possess,'' added Darcy, ``and to all this she must yet add something more substantial, in the improvement of her mind by extensive reading.'' DARCY

``I am no longer surprised at your knowing only six accomplished women. I rather wonder now at your knowing any.'' ELIZABETH