God and Prophets

[Neo_Sephiroth]

Word up, yo!

I would ask what is God but then I'll get, like, the typical answers. So I won't ask.

I'll start off, though, by asking...What are prophets? What is the connection between God and prophets?:sick:

Yo, yo, yo! Word up, homies!

...*Ahem*...Just feeling the groove today.:D

[Redzeppelin]

Word up, yo!

I would ask what is God but then I'll get, like, the typical answers. So I won't ask.

I'll start off, though, by asking...What are prophets? What is the connection between God and prophets?:sick:

Yo, yo, yo! Word up, homies!

...*Ahem*...Just feeling the groove today.:D

Prophets are God's messengers - His "mouthpiece" to the world.

[Neo_Sephiroth]

I figure that...:p

So, uh...Does anyone believe that there are prophets in the world today?

Word up, yo! Chicka, chicka, bound!:D

[shadowy girl]

Hi, how shall I start?

Moslims believe that Mohammed was the last prophet on earth, but we are waiting for Jesus to come back again to earth from heaven.

So ... I don't think they live now, only with the message of God they had teached to people, and they live now in every Mosque and every Church and every faithful heart.

if you wanna hear the religious belief just tell me

[Neo_Sephiroth]

Prophets are God's messengers - His "mouthpiece" to the world.


Hi, how shall I start?

Moslims believe that Mohammed was the last prophet on earth, but we are waiting for Jesus to come back again to earth from heaven.

So ... I don't think they live now, only with the message of God they had teached to people, and they live now in every Mosque and every Church and every faithful heart.

if you wanna hear the religious belief just tell me

Word, word...Man, I gotta stop saying that. :sick:

Faith, yo, can move mountains.

[ashley3554]

I figure that...:p

So, uh...Does anyone believe that there are prophets in the world today?

Word up, yo! Chicka, chicka, bound!:D

Prophets ... today??

no

The last one is prophet Mohammad peace be upon him.. But there will be someone in the end of time, Muslims call him (Imam Mahdi ) I do not know exactly what Christians call him .. He will establish his own country built on justice and fairness.. His is the flesh and blood of Prophet Mohammad peace be upon (he is number 12, his mother is a Christian woman, her father was an Emperor of Rome (a son of Caesar)

This Imam or the savior will appear at the end of time to fill the world with justice..

Some Muslims believe that he is alive and well and God concealed his mother's pregnancy on everyone and now God has chosen to conceal him not allowing the days to affect his age so he will be less than 40 , and allow him to appear on the right time ..

Other Muslims believe that he is yet to be born when the right moment comes..

[ashley3554]

but we are waiting for Jesus to come back again to earth from heaven

that is true

[Neo_Sephiroth]

Prophets ... today??

no

The last one is prophet Mohammad peace be upon him.. But there will be someone in the end of time, Muslims call him (Imam Mahdi ) I do not know exactly what Christians call him .. He will establish his own country built on justice and fairness.. His is the flesh and blood of Prophet Mohammad peace be upon (he is number 12, his mother is a Christian woman, her father was an Emperor of Rome (a son of Caesar)

This Imam or the savior will appear at the end of time to fill the world with justice..

Some Muslims believe that he is alive and well and God concealed his mother's pregnancy on everyone and now God has chosen to conceal him not allowing the days to affect his age so he will be less that 40 , and allow him to appear on the right time ..

Other Muslims believe that he is yet to be born when the right moment comes..

Hmm...If prophets are the "mouthpiece" of God, but there are no prophets on earth today, then...Uh...What does that mean?

What's the purpose of a prophet?

[shadowy girl]

Thank you ashley, wonderful adding..


ashley> Most Moslims I know believe that Imam Mahdi isn't born yet, but someday will be.

and more thing, Neo, why don't you know much about your religion??!

[shadowy girl]

NeO said:
" Hmm...If prophets are the "mouthpiece" of God, but there are no prophets on earth today, then...Uh...What does that mean?

What's the purpose of a prophet? "

So that wheb god askes us about what we've done in our lives after we die we can't tell him that we weren't religious, cuz his message of relogions reached every spot on earth, but seems that people hearths are like stones these days, and refuse to believe any religion at all.

[Neo_Sephiroth]

Ouch!! Yo! Watch the yelling...:( My ears were about to explode.:sick:

I gotta go. I'll be back to chat on this thread tomorrow. Peace!:D

[ashley3554]

Hmm...If prophets are the "mouthpiece" of God, but there are no prophets on earth today, then...Uh...What does that mean?

What's the purpose of a prophet?

Dear

The prophet is a human being sent to humanity with a message (certain time, certain place to a certain community in order to fix a certain problem with that community)

But a prophet is just a human being he dies at the end.. God never dies

You follow the message not the message carrier..

You worship God not his messenger

Messengers / prophets are there to show us the way and it is up to us to walk it or not ..

[shadowy girl]

Strange, I don't think I was yelling at all!

[ashley3554]

Thank you ashley, wonderful adding..
We moslims also think that someday will come when all the world is ruled my Moslim, and every one shall become a true Moslim or dies.

ashley> Most Moslims I know believe that Imam Mahdi isn't born yet, but someday will be.

and more thing, Neo, why don't you know much about your religion??!

Thank you sweetie..

Yes there is a prophesy that the world will be ruled by Muslims and Jesus (al messiah) peace be upon him the son of the chaste virgin peace be upon her will be there with them and he will lead the army.. After he prays after Imam Mahdi ..

Sweetie shadowy girl, I know both sides :) :D


Dear shadowy girl poor Neo was only asking :blush:

[shadowy girl]

Indeed! My dear are you a Moslim too?

[ashley3554]

dear shadowy girl..

Neo is gone, out of respect ,I don't think it is polite to make this thread a live chat .. :)

you agree dear ? :)

[shadowy girl]

Yes, Indeed, sorry, but untill he comes tomorrow to complete I'll be waiting, as I'ndred things to tell him, such questions about prophets as I believe shall be answered quickly.

SO I'll just wait until he comes, adding a little info. : prophets were people not angels nor sons of god, so that we humans wouldn't argue,,,

[Neo_Sephiroth]

dear shadowy girl..

Neo is gone, out of respect ,I don't think it is polite to make this thread a live chat .. :)

you agree dear ? :)


Yes, Indeed, sorry, but untill he comes tomorrow to complete I'll be waiting, as I'ndred things to tell him, such questions about prophets as I believe shall be answered quickly.

SO I'll just wait until he comes, adding a little info. : prophets were people not angels nor sons of god, so that we humans wouldn't argue,,,

Oops! Did I say "chat"? I meant to have a "discussion":D

Dear Shadowy Girly and Ashley...Thank you for all your thoughts. Now, since we all seem to know what the purpose of prophets are, I would like to know if there are any living prophets today.

If not, we no longer recieve messeges from God for God works through prophets such as Moses, Abraham, Enoch, and such...

...So that means...We can no longer hear the messages of God to his children...

Hmmm...

[ashley3554]

Oops! Did I say "chat"? I meant to have a "discussion":D

I would like to know if there are any living prophets today.

If not, we no longer recieve messeges from God for God works through prophets such as Moses, Abraham, Enoch, and such...

...So that means...We can no longer hear the messages of God to his children...

Hmmm...

Dear Neo ,

Allow me to add something.. When it comes to sending prophets or messengers that has stopped ,the final prophet is prophet Mohammad..

But when it comes to the fact that whether there are any prophets alive among us to day the answer is no..But they are alive in heaven of course.

Regarding the living prophets / messengers in general, yes there is al messiah (Jesus) peace be upon him the son of the chaste virgin peace be upon her.. he is alive and living in the second sky until God allows him to come and get his vengeance ..

One more information ,if you may dear,

Moses, Abraham, Enoch, and such... are prophets / messengers not only prophets.. :)


You see dear every messenger is a prophet but not every prophet is a messenger.. :)

Dear Neo , we receive messages from God from his own words (Holy books)

we talk to God by praying to him and he speaks to us by his holy books and by the messages he sends to us as individuals ..

You see dear.. Prophets / messengers were sent to show us the road to God and how to worship him.. and now we know that road we do not need messengers between us and God.. it is an open relationship .. We talk to God and he listens to us ,no need for messengers . :)

[shadowy girl]

I agree with you dear.. the relaionship between God and us has got it's own nature, Cuz God can lead us on his track...So he will be satisfied with us.
Now many people are trying to make their religions take over a wider world, they are messengers now, Cuz they tell people about a message that was sent by God like a thousand years ago...

[Whifflingpin]

Various religions claim that there are still prophets.

I think that B'hai believers claim that their religion was founded by a prophet, within the last generation, and I think that the Latter Day Saints consider their leader to be a prophet.

Whether you choose to believe that any of these, or Mahomet or Habakukk have any special gift from, or relationship with, God is entirely up to you.

[Neo_Sephiroth]

Wow...Pretty kind and nice responses.

I believe in a living prophet.

By the way, what's with all the "Dear Neo" stuff, eh?:p

[Hyacinth42]

What I find incredibly funny, in a dark, ironic kind of way, is that Jews, Christians and Moslims all believe in the same god, and kill each other over their religion... *Shakes head* Anyways, they all just follow a certain prophet's teachingings... So, I think, we should just all forget the prophets and then there would be no more fighting/killing ;) Of course, this is blasphemy, and I don't really believe it, I just think it would be an interesting solution.

[ashley3554]

Wow...Pretty kind and nice responses.

I believe in a living prophet.

By the way, what's with all the "Dear Neo" stuff, eh?:p

I feel that you mean me :blush:

I like to be friendly :blush:

[ashley3554]

What I find incredibly funny, in a dark, ironic kind of way, is that Jews, Christians and Moslims all believe in the same god, and kill each other over their religion... *Shakes head* Anyways, they all just follow a certain prophet's teachingings... So, I think, we should just all forget the prophets and then there would be no more fighting/killing ;) Of course, this is blasphemy, and I don't really believe it, I just think it would be an interesting solution.

I think that the best solution is to connect .. :)

[shadowy girl]

Wow...Pretty kind and nice responses.

I believe in a living prophet.

By the way, what's with all the "Dear Neo" stuff, eh?:p


Dear Neo, :p

If you believe in a living Prophet now, then who do you think this prophet is?
Like, explain yourself.:crash:

[Nightshade]

Hi, how shall I start?

Moslims believe that Mohammed was the last prophet on earth, but we are waiting for Jesus to come back again to earth from heaven.

So ... I don't think they live now, only with the message of God they had teached to people, and they live now in every Mosque and every Church and every faithful heart.

if you wanna hear the religious belief just tell me


Prophets ... today??

no

The last one is prophet Mohammad peace be upon him.. But there will be someone in the end of time, Muslims call him (Imam Mahdi ) I do not know exactly what Christians call him .. He will establish his own country built on justice and fairness.. His is the flesh and blood of Prophet Mohammad peace be upon (he is number 12, his mother is a Christian woman, her father was an Emperor of Rome (a son of Caesar)

This Imam or the savior will appear at the end of time to fill the world with justice..

Some Muslims believe that he is alive and well and God concealed his mother's pregnancy on everyone and now God has chosen to conceal him not allowing the days to affect his age so he will be less than 40 , and allow him to appear on the right time ..

Other Muslims believe that he is yet to be born when the right moment comes..


Seeral things first he Mahdi...never heard that about the christian woman daughter of rome ..but might point out that 'Rome' was usuaed to describe the western christian empires so not nesserially Rome itself. The Mahdi is supposed to be a decendant of the prophet ( according to some) who has his name ( and there are so many versions of it) and his fathers name will be the same one. Course Ive never actually seen a hadeeth or surah that refers to the mahdi at all. :S


I once had a teacher that said every 100 years There is aperson with a God given insight into religion and that person ( almost always a man) will dedicate their life to guiding people. The thing is we never know who they are , they dont even know who they are. It always seemed a bit strange to me.

Now neo, whats a living prophet?

[Shield&Sword]

Night, we know Mahdi from hadeeths of prophet, all other strange things about his mother and so on leave them you will hear alot of untrue hadeeths said about Mahdi.he is not born yet and when he come he come we shouldnt waste time talking about him and to listen to every thing said about him.
About the person that Allah send him every 100 years, this is a hadeeth of prophet. They are only people who give another time the live to islam and scholars, scientists agree that the man of the first 199 year is Omar bin Abd Alazeez, the second century is Mouhammed bin Idrees ashafiy and so on, its not something that you must believe or must agree that this is the person but we know them from their work to islamic nation, the science they give and how they defend islam teachings.

[Neo_Sephiroth]

Now neo, whats a living prophet?

Ummm...A living prophet is someone that's alive today that's recieving messeges and is in contact with God. Just like the prophets of old such as Noah, Abraham, Joseph and on through the prophets.

I came to the conclusion of believing that a prophet exist...Possibly through the process of elimination...And faith.:D

Anybody up for a "Q & A" with me?


Dear Neo, :p

If you believe in a living Prophet now, then who do you think this prophet is?
Like, explain yourself.:crash:

Who do YOU think I think the prophet is?:p

[shadowy girl]

Dunno! I'm asking you here!

[Neo_Sephiroth]

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[shadowy girl]

very Funny! strange beliefs you've got!

[Nightshade]

Now now...maybe I should say what I belive a prophet is to get the ball roling so to speak??
A prophet, differant from a messenger.
A prophet is reminder a person who tells and brings back messages that are already around, by being given a divine gift I should say. A messnger is one who sees the Angel Gabriel ( although maybe prophets do too??)-except moses who spoke directly to God_ and recives a new message to give to people. There were/are less messnger than Prophets. Neither are infalibale when it comes to people or ligfe, in fact most ended up cursing their people for their unwillingness to listen, but they can be trusted without doubt when it comes to matters of religion.

Thats what I belive, what do you believe??

[Demian]

To paraphrase a few lines from Abraham J. Heschel's groundbreaking book:
The Prophets are those that share in the pathos of God. Holding man and God in the same thought at all times, they are given over to despair, but provided with the means to rise above this despair. The prophet is one who can no longer distinguish between the Lord's anger, love and frustration from their own. They are saved, in the end, by an overwhelming vision of the Reconciliation of man and God at the end of the world as we know it...Shalom.

[Neo_Sephiroth]

very Funny! strange beliefs you've got!

Maybe...Maybe not. Maybe I'm crazy...Maybe you're crazy...*Gasps*...Maybe we're both crazy?!:sick:

Maybe it's just all-good...Sweet.:D


Now now...maybe I should say what I belive a prophet is to get the ball roling so to speak??
A prophet, differant from a messenger.
A prophet is reminder a person who tells and brings back messages that are already around, by being given a divine gift I should say. A messnger is one who sees the Angel Gabriel ( although maybe prophets do too??)-except moses who spoke directly to God_ and recives a new message to give to people. There were/are less messnger than Prophets. Neither are infalibale when it comes to people or ligfe, in fact most ended up cursing their people for their unwillingness to listen, but they can be trusted without doubt when it comes to matters of religion.

Thats what I belive, what do you believe??

Umm...Didn't I answer this question already? How 'bout we find a common ground on what we all agree what the characteristics of a prophets are?

[shadowy girl]

Maybe...Maybe not. Maybe I'm crazy...Maybe you're crazy...*Gasps*...Maybe we're both crazy?!:sick:

Maybe it's just all-good...Sweet.:D

Umm...Didn't I answer this question already? How 'bout we find a common ground on what we all agree what the characteristics of a prophets are?

Ok... Gosh!

Good, let's begin... in Islam prphets do not make Mistakes, and most were known to be very beautiful, and are good in all ways possible, Muslims now see him as Idol.

[Neo_Sephiroth]

Alrighty.

1. Any man claiming to be a prophet will boldly claim that God had spoken to him.

2. Any man so claiming would be a dignified man with a dignified message--no table jumping, no whisperings from the dead, no clairvoyance, but an intelligent statement of truth.

3. Any mam claiming to be a prophet of God would declare his message without any fear and without making any weak concessions to public opinion.

4. For if he were speaking for God he could not make concessions, although what he taught would be new and contrary to the accepted teachings of the day. A prophet bears witness of what he has seen and heard. His message and not himself is important.

5. He would speak in the name of the Lord, saying, "Thus said the Lord", as did Moses, Joshua, and others.

6. He would predict future events in the name of the Lord, and they would come to pass, as did those predicted by Isaiah and Ezekiel.

7. He would have not only an important message for his time but often a message for all future time, such as Daniel, Jeremiah, and others had.

8. He would have courage and faith enough to endure persecution and to give his life, if need be, for the cause he espoused, such as Peter, James, Paul, and others did.

9. Such a man would denouce wickedness fearlessly. He would generally be rejected or persecuted by the people of his time, but later generations and descendents of his persecutors would build monuments in his honor.

10. He would be able to do superhuman things--things that no man could do without God's help. The consequence or result of his message and work would be convincing evidence of his prophetic calling: "By their fruits ye shall know them" (Matthew 7:20)

11. His teaching would be in strict conformity with the scripture, and his words and his writings would become scripture. "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they wore move by the Holy Ghost" (2 Peter 1:21)

Okay, now this is but an outline that you can add to and/or amplify.

So, what do y'all think? Are these appropriate characteristics for those who claim to be prophets? If there are anymore that anyone would like to add, do so. Or remove if they should find any one of these inappropriate as a characteristic of a prophet.

I suggest we do so, before we move on. Word up, yo!

*Can't help myself...Word.*:sick:

[kari]

Not sure if someone already mentioned, but I noticed that there were answers "no" to today prophets. Latter-Day Saints (mormons) believe there to be a prophet today, and he is the one that leads the church. Just as others mentioned, God guides, or speaks to the prophet to help lead others. Mouth piece was mentioned, and I pretty much agree with that.
Kari

[Nightshade]

Umm...Didn't I answer this question already? How 'bout we find a common ground on what we all agree what the characteristics of a prophets are?

I was just rolling it on a bit like ask pbm game :D:D


Ok... Gosh!

Good, let's begin... in Islam prphets do not make Mistakes, and most were known to be very beautiful, and are good in all ways possible, Muslims now see him as Idol.
Actually, your slightly wrong there, well as far as I know anyway. In isla we belive that the prophets didnt make any mistakes about religion but they did make other mistakes normal human mistakes, like the thing about not pollinating the palm trees. and Idol is the wrong word I think.-Since Idols is also the term used for the statues that al-kuraysh worshipped. No an Ideal is better I think. As in the living example but one we will never quite be able to copy to that extent nor indeed should we.


:D

[shadowy girl]

Well, I said: do not make mistakes Cuz we ar waiting for a prophet to com back to earth,m Who is Jesus... but they did't in General (al-esma men al-khata)

About "Idol" I'm sure I ment something Else by that, and we both know, what I wanted to say that we try to be like Mohammed so to avoid doing mistakes, and to look up to him in the way he treated his children, or how he took action in some situation..etc. I've got a bad English!

[shadowy girl]

But thank you for making things clear :)

[Nightshade]

I wasnt critising I was just adding explanation to what you said and thats all really. :D

[Shield&Sword]

Shadowy the right word is : they dont sin.

[shadowy girl]

I wasnt critising I was just adding explanation to what you said and thats all really. :D


Shadowy the right word is : they dont sin.

Who said I took it as a critisising?! I was just a bit angry, that is all! :) smile you two, you corrected my mistakes, nothing is wrong with that :)

[jbob40919]

The answer depends on a definition of prophet. David Koresh said he was a prophet, Ron L. Hubbard said he was a prophet there are scores of other examples of people claiming to be a prophet.