What is the difference bet. videogame(RPG) vs reality?

[dan020350]

When I look at a video game ( anime like) the world or rather the adventure seems captivating. When I think of the reality, it is totally different.

Why? Why is the individual different from the world that is imagine ( pure like nature)? Is the reality really that ugly?

[Adolescent09]

Reality can be egregious. Video-game and film making producers cash in on man's strive to get away from reality by promoting ethereal aspects, supernatural magic acts, and extra-terrestrial looking characters in order to place the images that are in our nightmares right before us in physical caricature-type depictions. It grows addicting due to the exponential development of the right lobe of the cerebal cortex of the higher end forebrain (I'm sorry if I'm misconstruing this with the pituitary gland of anterior, posterior and intermediate lobes) caused by harmonal/impulse transplants through sensory-,inter- and motor neurons.

Hope this helped you understand the concept a little. :) You can curse at me if it didn't ;)

[Adolescent09]

Ok so then the Sensory Neurons dispatch signals to the CNS (Central Nervous System) while Interneurons are actively present in the spinal cord and cerebrum and motor neurons dispatch impulses from the CNS to muscle and endocrine (gland) areas.The forebrain of the cerebral area which constitutes only one part of the entire surface (which also consists of midbrain and hindbrain) conducts impulses (called effectors) for emotion, speech and other basic senses...

[kathycf]

Playing a game can be analogous to reading a book, or watching television. Sure, it can be an escape from reality...and it can also be simply entertaining. Sometimes taking a break from reality can be good and doesn't imply that one's reality be horrid.

[Adolescent09]

The reality of life in general with chaos and violence can be horrid ;). I agree with you though, Kathy.

[Lote-Tree]

When I look at a video game ( anime like) the world or rather the adventure seems captivating. When I think of the reality, it is totally different.

Why? Why is the individual different from the world that is imagine ( pure like nature)? Is the reality really that ugly?


Reality is not wholly ugly - there is Beauty too in there. But Reality is RESTRICTIVE. It does not bend to our will and the limitlessness of our Imaginations.

[dan020350]

Do you all think the impossible is possible? If you just have faith?

[andave_ya]

depends on faith in what. One of the principles in Christian doctrine, of which I believe in, holds that with God, all things are possible; that I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Even the impossible can be done, though it likely wouldn't be impossibles like escaping reality.
Anyways, fascinating thread. I agree with Lote-Tree that though there is some beauty in reality, it's restrictive. It's annoying, especially if you have to come back after adventuring in far off lands where magic is possible.

[kathycf]

Reality is not wholly ugly - there is Beauty too in there. But Reality is RESTRICTIVE. It does not bend to our will and the limitlessness of our Imaginations.
Yes, good point. Each person's life is going to be somewhat different, sometimes drastically different. So therefore the reality we each live with is in that sense subjective. I am probably wording that badly.

Anyway, however our lives differ it is generally understood there are certain feats we cannot do...we cannot fly, nor can we cast lighting from our fingertips. A game gives the chance to do those things, just as one can read a book and imagine doing those things.

[dan020350]

But kathy , a game also deludes the player's mind, make him more violent, moral, or dumb. A game such as Grand theft Auto San Andreas- where in this game you can see the sex scence.

[kathycf]

But kathy , a game also deludes the player's mind, make him more violent, moral, or dumb. A game such as Grand theft Auto San Andreas- where in this game you can see the sex scence.
I can't speak about Grand Theft Auto, I have never played it, nor is it an rpg. If you want to discuss violence in all videogames, you are going to have to be more specific with your topic. ;) ;)

A videogame is one form of media. There have been studies that suggest consumption of violent media (videogames, books, magazines, music, movies) leads to increased violence in children and teens. This is noted as a short term effect, whether there are long term effects in still inconclusive. There is also evidence that repeated exposure to violent media leads to desensitization...a lowering of the threshhold of what we find shocking to use an analogy.

To get back to your post...Does the consumption of such media in fact make everyone dumb (im)moral and violent? This is taking the assumption that stupidity, immorality and violence only came into being when videogames were invented eg the last 20 or so years. I don't think so, and I don't think you believe that either, dan. I think anybody who bothers to pick up a history textbook (pick the country) will be able to easily find information that concludes that violence and stupidity have been around for hundreds if not thousands of years. That's just recorded history. To speak from my own personal experience, I play a few videogames and I am of the opinion that I am not dumb, nor violent, nor immoral. That's just subjective on my part...



Some links for further reading:

Journal of the American Medical Association: Content and Ratings of Teen-Rated Video Games (http://www.lionlamb.org/research_articles/JAMA%20--JAMA-FEB.htm)

Journal of Adolescence:The effects of violent video game habits on adolescent hostility, aggressive behaviors, and school performance. (http://www.lionlamb.org/research_articles/study%201.pdf)

The influence of media violence on youth (http://www.lionlamb.org/mediaviolencefactsheet.pdf).

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I have some more links, if you like. Let me know.

[dan020350]

for you playing video games Kathy will not make you dumb because
you already did your homework. But for kids who believe they did their homework and fool parents, which are a lot of people are doing, gets more duller then the people in history. History shows the intelligence of human being are getting more duller and duller, not more intelligent.

[Lote-Tree]

for you playing video games Kathy will not make you dumb because
you already did your homework. But for kids who believe they did their homework and fool parents, which are a lot of people are doing, gets more duller then the people in history. History shows the intelligence of human being are getting more duller and duller, not more intelligent.

Then it is a problem of parenting.

[kathycf]

History shows the intelligence of human being are getting more duller and duller, not more intelligent.
I think I would have to see concrete examples of that to lend that statement any sort of credence. In other words, a citation from a text or other specific example. :)

At a gaming forum I belong to the previous statement pertaining to videogames making a "person violent, stupid and immoral" would be ripped to shreds by the highly intelligent people that belong there. (and there are quite a few...) Of course that isn't to say every member there is a genius...from some of the posts I read I could conclude that there are also many posters who seem somewhat intellectually challenged.

Perhaps ripped to shreds is too violent a term. Strongly challenged, perhaps? ;)

[Adolescent09]

But kathy , a game also deludes the player's mind, make him more violent, moral, or dumb. A game such as Grand theft Auto San Andreas- where in this game you can see the sex scence.

1. Violence? You should see me when I can't answer a math word problem or a verbal question. I've slashed my arms, cursed my mom, banged my head against tables and ripped books (I ripped my rare hardcover version Emma and am now stuck with a cheap paperback copy :()

2. I love Grand Theft Auto San Andreas and used to play it avidly. (I still do occasionally.) I never became violent to the point where I wanted to smash things.. Come to think of it.. I found the game more comical then violent.

3. I love books more than video games.

4. I possess more books than movies or video games and spend much more time reading than playing and watching.

5. I've got several ideas for writing from playing video games (not watching movies. I think this is because video games compel your mind to be active---even if it is for the right side---while movies only requires a viewer to drink information which is being fed virtually)

[dan020350]

to some other who have finished their homeowkrd there is no problem, but for those who haven't finished their homeowork it can pose a life problem.

As for the example of history people are geetting more duller. Here is a story.
At the beginning there were nothing, life came out, at the middle people are starting to contemplate, study, and take note, and that separation begins. Separate from reality, we have lost touch with the original, and we do not know what is the original because we placed our faith with the authorities, which most of the time they are wrong and debated in the future.

[kathycf]

to some other who have finished their homeowkrd there is no problem, but for those who haven't finished their homeowork it can pose a life problem.

As for the example of history people are geetting more duller. Here is a story.
At the beginning there were nothing, life came out, at the middle people are starting to contemplate, study, and take note, and that separation begins. Separate from reality, we have lost touch with the original, and we do not know what is the original because we placed our faith with the authorities, which most of the time they are wrong and debated in the future.
That is not a legitmate citation, that is you presenting personal opinion as fact. If you want to state your opinion fine, but stop dressing it up as some sort of "truism" that applies to every other person on the planet.

Assumptions and leaps of logic don't qualify as legitimate examples...you would be hard pressed to do that sort of thing in academia. A citation is just that. Find a concrete example, quote it and give the source. Otherwise, consider it your opinion, no matter how "true" you feel it to be.

Ok, I am sorry... NOT for what I have posted above, but for the "tone" in which I have posted it.

[Adolescent09]

Jesus Cathy.... The dude might be wrong but.. WOW... you flew at him as if he were your worst enemy. Do you have something against dan? (I'm not trying to be rude.)

[kathycf]

Jesus Cathy.... The dude might be wrong but.. WOW... you flew at him as if he were your worst enemy. Do you have something against dan? (I'm not trying to be rude.)
That is completely unfair. I asked dan to provide a legitimate citation for why he feels the world is getting dumber and he provided an opinion.


History shows the intelligence of human being are getting more duller and duller, not more intelligent.


I think I would have to see concrete examples of that to lend that statement any sort of credence. In other words, a citation from a text


As for the example of history people are geetting more duller. Here is a story.
At the beginning there were nothing, life came out, at the middle people are starting to contemplate, study, and take note, and that separation begins. Separate from reality, we have lost touch with the original, and we do not know what is the original because we placed our faith with the authorities, which most of the time they are wrong and debated in the future.



It has nothing to do with me "flying" at anybody or considering someone my worst enemy. I also assume you didn't read the end part of my post:

Ok, I am sorry... NOT for what I have posted above, but for the "tone" in which I have posted it.
I didn't find my post any more objectionable than tons of others here in this forum. Some people are actually quite a bit nastier. If you found my post objectionable you can report it. There is a button on the lower left hand side of a post that can be clicked on to report the post.
Good day.

[Jay]

Since this thread is no longer serving its purpose and has strayed too far away from the original topic, I'm closing it. If you wish to discuss the original topic further, please feel free to start a new thread.