Before we start sex

[aashishameya]

Before you touch me
Let me naked
I do not want
Beautiful fingers of yours become filthy
So before you touch me
Let me naked
Let me Torn off all my cloths
Rib-off all my flash
And break all the bones
Inside me some where
Pure naked soul lie
Shekels by desires but born to be free
Let me first find it
Let me found myself
Then touch me
Sleeping beauty is waiting for a love whisper
Come to her with soft pace
Handful of roses and a deep desire of heavenly kiss;
Touch me very smoothly
May be I am wounded badly
May be I am Thirsty and fatigued
So first pour love shower
And when I open my eyes
Speak me some silent words full of wisdom
And then give me deep eternal kiss
Then we vibrate in cosmic rhythm
Performing pure and divine act of love
And become timeless and universal lover.

[Adolescent09]

Yuck, I hate sex... I hate the way the word sounds even.. Perhaps a pervert/married person/person who likes sex would find appeal in your poetry but I find none. Enjoy the forums though :)

[aashishameya]

i dnt know y u hate it. though if it done in love, its most beautiful expirience..may be u expiriece it without love....

[Lote-Tree]

i dnt know y u hate it. though if it done in love, its most beautiful expirience..may be u expiriece it without love....

Sex done correctly is beautiful in itself. It is a wonderful thing. It is an amazing thing.

But Love has nothing to do with sex.

Sex is the need of the Body and can be done with anyone.

Love is the need of the spirit, the need of the soul.

[aashishameya]

I m sorry but sex for me need of soul also...and it is closly realeted to love

[Lote-Tree]

I m sorry but sex for me need of soul also...and it is closly realeted to love

No. Love is separate from Sex.

You make sex part of love. But Sex is not love.

[aashishameya]

You contradict yourself, when sex is part of love how it is separate

[Lote-Tree]

You contradict yourself, when sex is part of love how it is separate

Obiviously you love your mother don't you? And sex will play no part in that would it?

Hence Love is something separate.

[aashishameya]

You are taking it different, I am not saying that where is love there should be sex but if there is sex it would not be without love

[Lote-Tree]

You are taking it different, I am not saying that where is love there should be sex but if there is sex it would not be without love

I am not understanding you.

Are you saying when there is sex there is love too?

But this is incorrect. You can have sex with anyone without love because sex is a bodily need.

or are you saying that we should not have sex without love?

[hyperinsomnia]

Love certainly makes it easier to have sex with someone. There are different kinds of love, and different kinds of sex.

[Moira]

Well, i believe there are people who think that in order to have sex one must be in love with the other person.
And there are others who see sex as a bodily need, an instinct that must be satisfied, even a sport.......

[aashishameya]

yeah, diff people diff views, i am posting one more poem INTERCOURSE to make my view clear...

[aashishameya]

It is most beautiful and meaningful
When entanglement of bodies
Unleashes the soul.

[aashishameya]

i wrote one more CALIBASY, which is already in forum...

[Lote-Tree]

Well, i believe there are people who think that in order to have sex one must be in love with the other person.


And there is nothing wrong with that.



And there are others who see sex as a bodily need, an instinct that must be satisfied, even a sport.......

Sex is indeed a bodily need. You can't deny that.

But I agree some take sex as some kind of recreational activity as akin to smoking. And that can't be healthy in the long run.

In my view sex done in a meaningful relationship is such a wonderful thing.

[aashishameya]

In my view sex done in a meaningful relationship is such a wonderful thing.[/QUOTE]
thats what i want to say.

[aashishameya]

In my view sex done in a meaningful relationship is such a wonderful thing.

thats what i want to say

[Moira]

And there is nothing wrong with that.



Sex is indeed a bodily need. You can't deny that.

But I agree some take sex as some kind of recreational activity as akin to smoking. And that can't be healthy in the long run.

In my view sex done in a meaningful relationship is such a wonderful thing.

I agree some view it as a bodily need, not really as i view it though.
Of course when there are feelings involved the experience is deeper and it can be a beautiful thing, when no feelings or shalow feelings involved it cannot be more than an activity of some sort ......

[Lote-Tree]

I agree some view it as a bodily need, not really as i view it though.


But it is a indeed bodily need? from biological and reproductive perspectives? Why deny that?

[aashishameya]

No body is denying it, but soul is also part of body…though this is right many times people do it for physical pleasure…see all this depend upon person to person philosophy and their world view

[Moira]

But it is a indeed bodily need? from biological and reproductive perspectives? Why deny that?

Yes, from a strictly biological point of view it is a bodily need, u're correct.

In this case i would just rephrase and say that i just don't like to look at sex like that, although it is a reality.
It's something way too personal to reduce it to biological perspective only.

[Moira]

No body is denying it, but soul is also part of body…though this is right many times people do it for physical pleasure…see all this depend upon person to person philosophy and their world view

There are no definitions, we can all look at the same thing and have completly different opinions. And that's how it should be.

[aashishameya]

true, but there should be some common principle which can be applied for all human being, irrespective of race, culture, nation

[Lote-Tree]

In this case i would just rephrase and say that i just don't like to look at sex like that, although it is a reality.


Thanks.



It's something way too personal to reduce it to biological perspective only.

But this need should not be overlooked or anyway denied.

[Moira]

Thanks.



But this need should not be overlooked or anyway denied.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa, i am not denying it and nor do i believe it should be overlooked. Happy now:P?

[aashishameya]

everybody has its own way to look at it

[Lote-Tree]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa, i am not denying it and nor do i believe it should be overlooked. Happy now:P?

:D ;)

[Adolescent09]

You are taking it different, I am not saying that where is love there should be sex but if there is sex it would not be without love

Lote-Tree contradicts everyone, aash. Perhaps he thinks he's the monarch of love :). I guess we'll just have to put up with it ;)

[Lote-Tree]

Lote-Tree contradicts everyone, aash. Perhaps he thinks he's the monarch of love :). I guess we'll just have to put up with it ;)

LOL :-)

Has my words offended you somehow?:-)

I am not Monarch of anything. Just an ordinary human being :-)

And there has not been a contradiction...Aashis's concept of love is not same as mine...and there is nothing wrong with that...just like some people's concept of God is a old bearded figure in the sky while others see God as Transcendental...Blake saw love as something "seekest not itself please" while to Shakespeare it is an "ever-fixed mark"...and I am saying Love is not Sex. But in the end "do not belive in what say...Trust in what I do...for my thoughts are nought but your own thoughts in sound and my deeds your own hopes in action:-)

Peace.
Regards,
Lote.

[Adolescent09]

I was joking, Lote-tree. I admire your points always.. I hope I didn't make you think I don't. You seem to have a very diverse knowledge of various concepts and I respect your your posts for their intellectualism.

My regards. :)

[Walter]

Let me cut to the chase: I lIke your poem very much! :)

[Pendragon]

While people argue over the issue of sex, (a loaded topic anywhere!), when people post a poem, they would like feedback on the Poem, not a discussion of the Subject. That said, the poem lacks a bit of fire, I think you want to express your subject as something beautiful and partially susceed, but not enough beautiful descritive words are used. At the first, when you speak of ":tearing clothes" it sounds violent, not beautiful, as though you were describing a rape scene not a love making. This continues in "broken bones" , as if now the victim has been murdered, or at the best badly wounded. Beauty of love and a sexual relationship doesn't sound like a vist from Jack the Ripper...

[cuppajoe_9]

I'm with Pen on this one, and would suggest that if you are trying to work in the 'sex is beautiful' vein, you should avoid the word 'filthy' at all costs, if only because describing it as such is a favorite trick of the, umm, 'sex negative' crowd. It is possible to use slightly off-putting sexual imagery while still giving the impression of something beautiful (Chris Mangum of Neutral Milk Hotel is a master of this) it's best to tread very lightly.

[SleepyWitch]

Yuck, I hate sex... I hate the way the word sounds even.. Perhaps a pervert/married person/person who likes sex would find appeal in your poetry but I find none. Enjoy the forums though :)

hahahha, Adol, you're hilarious... it sounds as if you were saying married people are perverts, the way you lump them together :) hehe, no offence... :) i know what you mean, it just sounds funny the way you put it...


aashishameya, I agree with Pen and cuppa...
apart from the violence, your poem does sound a bit like an advertisement for tantric exercises or something...
by and large, I like the substance of your poem, but when it comes to the form.. well, I think your poem is a bit too straightforward and a little clichéd, seeing as it sounds like an instructions manual for said tantric exercises.... :D

[aashishameya]

many thanks to all of you who like-dislike poem and discribe it in their own way...talk about form, imagery etc...doesn't man become animal when he is in sex? how he perform like a sophisticated elite....any way i also post one on the same INTERCOURS. let me know your views and i am very hopeful that all the poeple give same importance on the subjetcs which are more important then sex( i wrote one on earthquack, one of a poor Afghan girl, but no one read it) see the irony of man, still intrested in primitive things...
thanks a lot...

[cuppajoe_9]

doesn't man become animal when he is in sex?Well, he was an animal before (as opposed to vegetable or mineral). Is you mean (as I assume that you do) that sex is somehow base or degrading or bestial, I'm afraid I must heartilly disagree.

[shadowy girl]

I am starting to hate you, my dear, it's not good to talk about it!! this is awful, your poetry is good, very good indeed!but the subject is just awful!!!

[Lote-Tree]

doesn't man become animal when he is in sex?


Why DO people make sex something so bestial?

[aashishameya]

in the search of poets i met scientists

[Lote-Tree]

in the search of poets i met scientists

When Poets make sex bestial....what use of Poets?

[Scheherazade]

when people post a poem, they would like feedback on the Poem, not a discussion of the Subject. Thank you, Pen.

Please do not personalise your comments.

Unless criticism offered is constructive, it will not prove helpful.

[Lote-Tree]

Thank you, Pen.

Please do not personalise your comments.

Unless criticism offered is constructive, it will not prove helpful.

Noted.

But they do offer up juicy subjects of discussion though :-)

[Moira]

Noted.

But they do offer up juicy subjects of discussion though :-)

Feeling guilty:)?

Just joking .............

[Lote-Tree]

Feeling guilty:)?

Just joking .............

Well, not exactly...:-) I did not realise that posting in "Personal Poetry" section does not encourage discussion on the subject matter...rather on poetry itself...

But subject matter tends to be far more important for discussion that poetry itself... :-)

[Scheherazade]

But subject matter tends to be far more important for discussion that poetry itself... :-)We have other sections of the Forum dedicated to those discussions. Here, however, we discuss poetry. :)

Please let's carry on with the discussion of Ash's poem now. If you would like to discuss other topics/issues, please feel free start new threads in relevant parts of the Forum.

[vhaney]

aashishameya,
Allow me a comment if you would. Others might disagree but what is life without diversity. I want to try and tell you what I feel when I read your piece.

Paraphrased,

Before we experience this cosmic event let me bare myself and strip myself of all those things that exist on the outside of my being that are dirty so in this union we might join essence to essence. In removing all of these exterior trappings, that hide the part of me that I want you to touch, I might do damage to myself as I tear down my walls for you (tearing clothes, broken bones). To me the pain is worth the prize. Then and only then as I lie barren and unmasked of all, being before you in the essence of what I truly am, then touch me. The second half of the poem I see relating to that type of lovemaking not so much associated with carnality but with the healing/hurting, frightening/beautiful fulfilling emptiness that is the true essence of love. To speak of it as only a physical act is base and boring. That is not what your poem does.
With all that said I have to say I like you poem.
I could explain all this much more but I think you understand... perhaps

[aashishameya]

Dear friend,
you get it very right...you are the only one who able to see soul of my poem, its not at all about physical love...it has much deeper meaning....though its wast subject to discuss....and a divine thing to experience....
i am agree, pain is worth to prize...
thank u very much for your comment