Stories with Holes - 11

[scotpgot]

This one, I think is a little tougher . . .

Have at it! (yes/no questions only, please)

A man goes into a restaurant, orders abalone, eats one bite, and kills himself.

[AimusSage]

Is he allergic to shellfish?

[Jay]

Did he intend to kill himself before he entered the restaurant?

Is what he ordered relevant?

[AdoreroDio]

Did he have a gun?
A knife?

[Scheherazade]

Did he kill himself because of something he saw at the restaurant? Something happened there?

[papayahed]

Was it an accident? planned?
Did anybody see the man kill himself?
Is the type of restaurant relevent?
Did the man come in the restaurant alone?
Did DG order a ########?

[Scheherazade]

Did DG order a ########?Papaya!!!

Never expected that kind of language from you!!!

*shakes her head in disbelief*

;)

[scotpgot]

Is he allergic to shellfish?

No.


Did he intend to kill himself before he entered the restaurant?

Is what he ordered relevant?

No.
Yes.


Did he have a gun?
A knife?

Irrelevant
Irrelevant


Did he kill himself because of something he saw at the restaurant? Something happened there?

No.
No.


Was it an accident? planned?
Did anybody see the man kill himself?
Is the type of restaurant relevent?
Did the man come in the restaurant alone?


Not an accident. Neither was it planned.
Irrelevant.
No.
Yes.



Did DG order a ########?

I'm afraid my virgin brain doesn't know what that is. But my best guess is:

No . . .

[Jay]

Did the guy like abalone?

[Basil]

The man ordered abalone, but is that what was brought to his table?

[Scheherazade]

What is abalone anyway?

*blinks*

[Jay]

The man ordered abalone, but is that what was brought to his table?
As in: Hey, waiter! That's not what I've ordered! Now I'll kill myself to show you all! *stabs himself in the chest* THERE! :D

Is that your usual reaction if you're brought the wrong order, Basil? ;)

[Basil]

No, I usually just start sobbing quietly to myself. ;)

[Scheherazade]

Is that your usual reaction if you're brought the wrong order, Basil? ;)That might explain the numerous visits to the ER, y'know...

[papayahed]

Papaya!!!

Never expected that kind of language from you!!!

*shakes her head in disbelief*

;)

:lol: ######## ######## ########. I know I must have said ######## before, it's one of my favorite words.

Did the Dead Guy order an Alcoholic Beverage?
Did someone force DG to kill himself?
Was the waiter a Man? Woman?
Was DG supoosed to met someone else at the restaruant?
Does the time of day matter?
Did he kill himself with poison?

[Jay]

Did eating the abalone trigger a memory of some sort in him? Probably an unpleasant/painful one? (Did he remember where he put his ice cream? :p)

Is how he killed himself relevant or only the fact that he killed himself?

[Moira]

Is the abalone relevant for the reason of the suicide?

Was there a pearl involved?:)

[Taliesin]

Did the man realize that he had eaten a slow and painful lethal poison and, to save himself of the pain, killed himself? You know, for humane reasons?

[Madhuri]

Was he inspired by some movie scene, and thought of acting it out, just to see if he remains alive or dies?

[scotpgot]

Did the guy like abalone?
Not relevant.

The man ordered abalone, but is that what was brought to his table?
Yes.

What is abalone anyway?

*blinks*
hehe. It's a shellfish. The outside (shell) can be used for decoration, jewelry, etc. The inside (meat) can be consumed.

Yes/No questions only, please. ;)


Did the Dead Guy order an Alcoholic Beverage?
Did someone force DG to kill himself?
Was the waiter a Man? Woman?
Was DG supoosed to met someone else at the restaruant?
Does the time of day matter?
Did he kill himself with poison?
Not relevant.
No.
Not relevant.
No.
No.
Not relevant.

Did eating the abalone trigger a memory of some sort in him? Probably an unpleasant/painful one? (Did he remember where he put his ice cream? )

Is how he killed himself relevant or only the fact that he killed himself?
Yes. Yes. No.
No, not how. Yes, why.

Is the abalone relevant for the reason of the suicide?

Was there a pearl involved?
Yes.
No.

Did the man realize that he had eaten a slow and painful lethal poison and, to save himself of the pain, killed himself? You know, for humane reasons?
No.


Was he inspired by some movie scene, and thought of acting it out, just to see if he remains alive or dies?

No.

[AimusSage]

Did he eat abalone before?

If so, was the previous time he ate abalone relevant to him wanting to kill himself?

If it is relevant, did it have to do with a dead of someone close to him? (example: the other person was allergic and died)

Did he try to kill himself that time?

[scotpgot]

Did he eat abalone before?

If so, was the previous time he ate abalone relevant to him wanting to kill himself?

If it is relevant, did it have to do with a dead of someone close to him? (example: the other person was allergic and died)

Did he try to kill himself that time?
No . . .
...
Yes ..., no not allergies
No.

[Aiculík]

so... the fact he ate abalone is relevant, but wheter he liked it or not isn't.

is the fact that that abalone is also called ear-shell somehow rellevant, then?

[AimusSage]

Did he eat something that was similar to abalone before?

Was it his child that died? Mother? Father? Wife?

Was the other person murdered?

if so did he kill the other person himself?/ accident?

[scotpgot]

so... the fact he ate abalone is relevant, but wheter he liked it or not isn't.

is the fact that that abalone is also called ear-shell somehow rellevant, then?
Yes.
No.

Did he eat something that was similar to abalone before?

Was it his child that died? Mother? Father? Wife?

Was the other person murdered?

if so did he kill the other person himself?/ accident?
No . . .
Not child, not mother, not father, yes wife
No.
Not suicide, yes accident

[Moira]

Does he feel responsible for the death of his wife?
Did he killed himself as a punishment?

[papayahed]

Was his wife allergic to Abalone?

[Taliesin]

Was it all a performance art?

Well, you never know with these artist types...

[scotpgot]

Does he feel responsible for the death of his wife?
Did he killed himself as a punishment?
No . . .
. . .

Was his wife allergic to Abalone?
No.

Was it all a performance art?
No. :D

[papayahed]

Did his wife die in the same restaurant?
Was the restaurant responsible for the wifes death?

[scotpgot]

Did his wife die in the same restaurant?
Was the restaurant responsible for the wifes death?

No.
No.

[scotpgot]

Let's see if I can summarize:

Man (DG):
Killed himself.
Not relevant how.
Relevant that he ate abalone.
Did not intend to kill himself before he entered restaurant.
Type of restaurant or gender of waiter not relevant.
Did not kill himself because of something that happened or that he saw at the restaurant.
Abalone was not poisoned neither was it allergies.
Abalone triggered an unpleasant or painful memory.
DG did NOT remember where he put his ice cream.
Suicide is related to the death of his wife.

Wife:
Dead.
Was not allergic to abalone.
Was not in the restaurant with him.

[Moira]

You did not answer my questions:

Does he feel responsible for the death of his wife?
Did he killed himself as a punishment?

[Basil]

I'm sorry if this has been covered, but I'm not clear on this: did abalone cause the wife's death? Or is related to her death in a sort of coincidental way, such as she just so happened to be eating abalone when a huge anvil came plummeting from the heavens, landing on her and squashing her like a bug?

[AimusSage]

allright, let's see if I get it. The abalone reminded him of his wife's death which happened a not further specified time ago, but I assume it has been a while. The wife dead had nothing to do with abalone, so something after his wife died created the association with her death and abalone, which was triggered when he ordered it, hence killing himself. Up to this it is all correct right?

Knowing this, it is likely that he did not know what abalone was before he ordered it at the restaurant, otherwise, he would have killed himself when the association was made, or perhaps would have been able to prevent it from ever happening in the first place. Is this still correct?

Assuming it is, the question remains what the association with his wife's dead and abalone is, and why it is so terrible that he is willing to kill himself for it.

Now to translate it into yes or no questions... Uhm... I'll get back to you on that...

[scotpgot]

post #29




Originally Posted by Moira
Does he feel responsible for the death of his wife?
Did he killed himself as a punishment?
No . . .
. . .

[scotpgot]

did abalone cause the wife's death? Or is related to her death in a sort of coincidental way, such as she just so happened to be eating abalone when a huge anvil came plummeting from the heavens, landing on her and squashing her like a bug?
Neither.
Let me try and help by saying that abalone is not related to her death, per se. But reminds him of the circumstances in a quite vivid manner. (hope that helps, but also hope that doesn't help TOO much) ;) (See AimusSage's questions below)

allright, let's see if I get it. The abalone reminded him of his wife's death which happened a not further specified time ago, but I assume it has been a while. The wife dead had nothing to do with abalone, so something after his wife died created the association with her death and abalone, which was triggered when he ordered it, hence killing himself. Up to this it is all correct right?
YES.


Knowing this, it is likely that he did not know what abalone was before he ordered it at the restaurant, otherwise, he would have killed himself when the association was made, Yes, up to this point.


or perhaps would have been able to prevent it from ever happening in the first place. Is this still correct?
No, not really preventable.


Assuming it is, the question remains what the association with his wife's dead and abalone is, and why it is so terrible that he is willing to kill himself for it.
Exactly.

VERY GOOD, Mr. Sage.

[papayahed]

Was it the taste of the abalone that triggered the memory?
Or just the sight of the abolone? or Smell?

[Moira]

Did his wife drowned?

[scotpgot]

Was it the taste of the abalone that triggered the memory?
Or just the sight of the abolone? or Smell?
Yes, taste. No, not sight or smell.

Did his wife drowned?
YES

[Moira]

I am lost ......

What are we supposed to guess now? The connection between the abalone and the death of his wife?

[papayahed]

The taste of Abolone reminded him of the sea? Which reminded him of his wifes death?

[scotpgot]

What are we supposed to guess now? The connection between the abalone and the death of his wife?
Yup.

The taste of Abolone reminded him of the sea? Which reminded him of his wifes death?
Not quite.



Hmm . . . this DOES seem like a tough one. I want to keep it fun, so I'll engage in conversation and whatnot if it'll help. I want to keep it fun but at the same time not give too much away.

For now I'll say that it's important she drowned, but that's about 1/3 of the story. Also, it's important that he ordered something specific. (it wouldn't work just with any seafood).

[Moira]

It is a tough one scotpgot ......

I think you should give us some clues for the other 2/3 of the story. Ifeel we are stuck :(.

[AimusSage]

was he there when she drowned?

If yes:
What caused the drowning, accident I know, but what sort of accident was it, -> yes or no version:

Did she go swimming at a beach and drown?
were they shipwrecked and she drowned?
was it after plane crash?
were there others involved?

As for the taste of the abalone causing the suicide...
Did he previously eat something he thought was abalone but now found out it wasn't? his wife dying in an accident.... Hmmm

the question remains what he ate? His wife :lol:

okay, that actually is a reason to kill himself over, but why on earth could anyone belief their wife is abalone?? And why would he eat his own wife... only if he was shipwrecked on a deserted island with nothing else to eat, like the football team and the plane crash! Cannibalism to stay alive. So maybe it were others who ate his wife and fed him something too and told him it was abalone...

Either it is spot on or I've got a twisted mind :D

[Moira]

:)) that was funny.............

Did he ever see an abalone before ordering it in the restaurant?

Is it the taste that is more important or the sight of the abalone?

[scotpgot]

the question remains what he ate? His wife

okay, that actually is a reason to kill himself over, but why on earth could anyone belief their wife is abalone?? And why would he eat his own wife... only if he was shipwrecked on a deserted island with nothing else to eat, like the football team and the plane crash! Cannibalism to stay alive. So maybe it were others who ate his wife and fed him something too and told him it was abalone...
YES YES YES

That's it, exactly. Shipwrecked, drowned wife, others shipwrecked fed him his wife and told him it was abalone. When he actually ate the abalone, it tasted different. So he realized he was a cannibal and killed himself.

THE END

Maybe not so tough, just crazy. ;)

If anyone would like the website with a whole bunch of these, please PM me and I'll send you the link.

Maybe one more on Monday, an easy one that doesn't involve DEATH. ;)

[Moira]

Bravo Aimus.