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Yvonne Sturgeon
04-24-2007, 03:16 PM
Hello everyone! I am inviting you to discuss at will the various elements you are encountering in the Heart of Darkness. This site has been set up for the senior class of Corona del Mar HS, but is open to anyone with ideas/questions to share with us! Welcome, and happy blogging!:p
Just to get everyone started..:
"The fascination of the abomination..." What does this mean to you?
ntnewps
04-27-2007, 11:20 AM
"A fascination of the abomination..." means to me that they are captivated by the ruins or of a destruction that they see. When I read this, I think of how accidents allure people into seeing them, and even when it's so horrible to look at it, it'll still interest people.
STurner
04-27-2007, 11:27 AM
"The facination of the abomination. . . " to me means that destruction always attracts a crowd. Even at human's begininnings, we have been drawn to destruction, anger and torture. The Romans even turned it into a sport. I think that at this point we cannot get away from the desire to see things go wrong.
DLuna
04-27-2007, 11:27 AM
"Fascination of the abomination..." Well, I think this means that we are all interesed and fascinated by destruction. People are drawn especially to the people who have fallen from grace. It's interesting to learn about great leaders who once had it all: power, influence, and wealth. It's even more interesting to learn about how they failed.
K8gritsch
04-27-2007, 11:28 AM
:banana: :banana: :banana:
I think that people have a fascination of abomination, because humans have a tendacy to be drawn toward things that are horific, sad, or destructive; we like seeing the bad becuase it makes us more greatful that we are not in the same situation. This concept is very similar to the explanation of why people like watching drama, or why some people make their lives more dramatic than they need to be.
tkheinfeld88
04-27-2007, 11:29 AM
"A fascination of abombination" means to me something that is fascinated by something or someone that is disliked or horrific. An example of this would be war. Even though it is disliked throughout the United States we still are interested in what is happening in Iraq.
COMEONKYLEEN
04-27-2007, 11:30 AM
:ladysman: I totally agree that people are drawn toward things that are not effecting them but are fasinating in the fact that they are either dramatic, horrific, or scandalous. A car accident is a good example of this because when an accident occurs all the people driving by slow down and stare because curoisty is a overpowering feeing. They don't necessarily care about the poeople involved, but rather are facinated by whats going on.
Maraleanne07
04-27-2007, 11:32 AM
This person is completely fascinated in the ruins and destruction of what he is seeing. As difficult as it may be to look at a tragic scene, you can't help but to look. Drama and tragedy interests people, it's a break from the normal everyday life and when you get a chance to see it, you want to know all about it.
xxxbustacapxxx
04-27-2007, 11:32 AM
To me this portrays the abomination of native life led by the imperilizing whites the power and position that the whites have obtained the fascination of Africa and its rich resources and the power they uphold over the natives, they are fascinated by their different way of life. The blacks may also be fascinated by the white machine the direction it is taking Africa not realizing the abominal destruction that lay ahead.
random101
04-27-2007, 11:33 AM
haha i got it know....
calbright8
04-27-2007, 11:34 AM
"The fascination of the abomination"- means that people find some kind of excitement out of bad things that happen such as car accidents, people getting hurt in sports, wars, etc. I beileve today that we care more about making ourself be happy than carrying about what really happens. We get curious and drive by a car accident when someone could really be hurt and doesn't want to be bothered. yaaaa i said it
youngrusha
04-27-2007, 11:35 AM
"Fascination of the abomination..." it shows us how we humans are interested and almost fascinated by destruction and grief. I think the media and the news are a big part of it because they show almost nothing but bombings in iraq, shootings in LA, all kinds of tragedies and it seem to intrigue every1.
youngrusha
04-27-2007, 11:35 AM
that is garbage
putakaponit
04-27-2007, 11:36 AM
:banana:
"The facination of Abomination" Means that something is distructive yet interesting. Pearl Harbor was a horrible incident although today the public is still very interested in what happened.
calbright8
04-27-2007, 11:36 AM
:argue: meeeooooow
xxxbustacapxxx
04-27-2007, 11:36 AM
slarbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mike Berry
04-27-2007, 11:36 AM
I think that people have a fascination of abomination, because humans have a tendacy to be drawn toward things that are horific, sad, or destructive; we like seeing the bad becuase it makes us more greatful that we are not in the same situation. This concept is very similar to the explanation of why people like watching drama, or why some people make their lives more dramatic than they need to be. To me this portrays the abomination of native life led by the imperilizing whites the power and position that the whites have obtained the fascination of Africa and its rich resources and the power they uphold over the natives, they are fascinated by their different way of life. The blacks may also be fascinated by the white machine the direction it is taking Africa not realizing the abominal destruction that lay ahead.
Maraleanne07
04-27-2007, 11:37 AM
:brow: :santasmil :brow:
This person is completely fascinated in the ruins and destruction of what he is seeing. As difficult as it may be to look at a tragic scene, you can't help but to look. Drama and tragedy interests people, it's a break from the normal everyday life and when you get a chance to see it, you want to know all about it.
calbright8
04-27-2007, 11:37 AM
:bawling: will anyone be my friend??? ha ha
decktheholls
04-27-2007, 11:37 AM
:wave: "The Fascination of the Abomination..." The fascination of abomination to me means someones powerful attraction to a disgusting or vile action or being. I think that the human race as a whole is attracted to things that spark interest and emotion no matter the content . Car accidents, terrorist attacks and outrageous stunts are all abominable actions that although bad, spark an interest to look at.
xxxbustacapxxx
04-27-2007, 11:38 AM
cyka........translation............you dont know
calbright8
04-27-2007, 11:38 AM
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Clay Russell
04-27-2007, 11:38 AM
fascination of abomination means to me::banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Sarah V
04-27-2007, 11:38 AM
I think that the fascination of abomination means that people are interested in the downfall of others
Christina H.
04-27-2007, 11:39 AM
I agree, people tend to want things that have dramatic conclusions. By being attracted to abomination, the result will be horrific.
Logos
04-27-2007, 11:41 AM
This site has been set up for the senior class of Corona del Mar HS....
Welcome to you all! and I hope you enjoy the site :D
HootanM
04-27-2007, 12:17 PM
In my opinion, the fascination of abomination means that we are in love with seeing destruction and disaster. It fascinates us to see people get killed in movies, and the way various things get destroyed. :flare: :flare: :flare:
paige294
04-27-2007, 12:18 PM
I think that it shows a lack of humanity of the people at the stations.
KDD18
04-27-2007, 12:20 PM
"The facination of Abomination" means that everyone is fascinated to things that are either destructive or sad, and they are interested in what is happening. Usually when it does not involve them.
sgb17
04-27-2007, 12:20 PM
'the fasination of abomination' means that people today or really in any day in age are fasinated with evil; evil people, events, etc.
you can't help but look away when you see a serious car crash or even watching the news about the war that is going on right now
:thumbs_up
To me, "facination of the abomination..." means the interest of being dislike or dislike something or interest of intense aversion or loathing. The interest of a vile, shameful or detestable act.
Mr Giggles
04-27-2007, 12:24 PM
The fascination of abomination means that people are interested in our dark side the evil and the violent.:smash: :brow:We are interested in how bad things could be and this makes us feel better about our lives.:crash: :flare: :bawling: :rage:
Becca J
04-27-2007, 12:25 PM
I feel that "[t]he fascination of the abomination" comes from man's obsession with what he loathes. Such is evident in times of war, for example, where we as Americans, heavily scrutinize every action and cultural aspect of a county that we are at war with. Also, man may find solace in seeing others' abominable actions because they may in response feel better about their less destructive manner.
cho6292
04-27-2007, 12:25 PM
I think the fascination of abomination means people want horific and destructive things. We know that those things are bad but we are attract to those things because they are scenes that we saw many times. :yawnb: :( :lol: :flare: ;) :alien: :idea: :p :bawling: :sick: :thumbs_up :blush: :crash: :)
infinitebuter
04-27-2007, 12:26 PM
the fascination of abomination means to me that as humans we find that disaster and destruction amuzing. i think that humans have a desire to to see the mental and physical results from distruction. i beleive that the human emotion of pain is one of the least understood emotions and i think that people are amused as well as intrigued by how people react to pain. Also society enjoys seeing the animal like instincts of humans when put in a situation. for example look at reality t.v. watching people try to survive is so interesting.
hunt rychel
04-27-2007, 12:26 PM
I believe that the fascination of abomination refers to how humans are amused and interested in death. We accept death much more openly as a result of our violent television shows, video games, etc. Humand have become less sensitive towards people's pain and lack emotion towards death.Today, our society accepts violence mush more openly and we tend to apply the "Eye for an eye" mentality towards just about everything. Humans today have become desensitized and lack compassion towards others.
sgb17
04-27-2007, 12:27 PM
ooops
jakelem21
04-27-2007, 12:27 PM
I think that "fascination of the abomination" means that people are drawn in by the outcome of things that are destructive. For example which happens almost everyday, when people get into an accident there is an effect that many call "rubbernecks" because they see the accident and want to know about it. It seems that if the accident is worse people are even more fascinated. This can relate to the novel in relation to the trade circuit and the lack of interest in the natives. :flare: :alien: :crash: :D :( :yawnb: :sick: :idea: :thumbs_up :blush: :p :D
CassieS
04-27-2007, 12:28 PM
I believe that the "fascination with abomination" refers to mankind's natural tendency to be drawn to all things horrific, troubling, gruesome, etc. This fascination has existed in the past and it is something that we will continue to experience. We can relate this "fascination with abomination" back to the Ancient Romans, a civilization that delighted in war and made sport of bloody Gladiator fights. Today, people pack theaters to see bloody, graphic movies such as Saw and Hostel. We are all guilty of slowing down neary a car accident, hoping to catch a glimpse of the driver's/passenger's misfortune.
ltmerrill
04-27-2007, 12:30 PM
Essentially, the discourse of primitivism and degeneracy reverses the idea of evolution; it deconstructs the ethos of the improving spirit of the times.
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shows the animal-like characteristics of man, and how man is supposed to be the highest of all mammels, yet he still developes the qualities and actions of wild beasts. *shrugs*
anderson5463
04-27-2007, 12:30 PM
The FAscination of abomination to me means that, people are so intrested in death and what the out come will be that they have no care for human life. For example in the book All of the blacks are treated badly and they are dieng and no one really seems to care. The book constantly keeps mentioning death.
Dankalicious
04-27-2007, 12:31 PM
the fascination of the abomination means to me, what has created that could destroy man; the classic man creates monster, monster destroys man ideal. The fascination of the abomination comes from the fact that something can be so great, that in turn in can be so terrifying. *LEGALIZE IT*
OG"kush"Brown
04-27-2007, 12:31 PM
I believe that many people are so interested in abomination because it lets a person see how destructive they can be or how helpful they can be. It is something that people use to measure themselves with.:lol:
vinniethesaint
04-27-2007, 12:31 PM
To me, fascination of abomination means that it is human nature for people to be attracted to things that are horrific and evil. I fall in this catagory as well. For example, when there is a car crash on the side of the road, everyone driving wants to go check it out. I don't know what causes poeple to do this...maybe it's the fact that people want to see others fail to benefit themselves...i don't know?
joegoldenrod
04-27-2007, 01:46 PM
"The fascination of the abomination..."
To me this means that everone is interested in destruction and unkosher ventures
rosen
04-27-2007, 01:51 PM
To me this means that evil and destructive things appeal to us. This means that we enjoy to see bad events happen. For example some people are more interested in nascar for the crashes rather than the actual race
Kindvik
04-27-2007, 01:52 PM
"the fascination of the abomination"... I think it means people's interest is sparked from tragic events. In society today I think car accidents are a good example of peoples fascination with it. People always slow down to watch the accident. This interest in tragic events is also all over the news.
Brad Lee
04-27-2007, 01:53 PM
:banana: :rage: :argue: "The fascination of the abomination..." this means a person has allure, appeal,or attraction for evil, shame or horror. Its a sick twisted dipiction.
mmabanta
04-27-2007, 01:54 PM
This means to me that people are very intrigued by destruction. For some reason people tend to be drawn to morbid or dark images.
TCHarkins
04-27-2007, 01:55 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
:wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
My understanding to the quote of "Fascination of the abomination" is that terrible events draw a crowd. People are fascinated by accidents and terrible situations. Just look at the news! When you are on the Freeway and there is an accident,even if it is off the road there is always trafic becuase people slow down to see what has happened. People are fascinated, even mesmorized, by accidents. We are all guilty of this curious nature.
klmurphy
04-27-2007, 01:55 PM
The fascination of the abomination..." What does this mean to you?
I think this qoute is extremely true. It seems to me that people are fascinated by accidents and in crime. Whenever a police man has closed an area off or is drawing attentioin to a situation the general public is curious in finding out what happened. This is proved through shows on t.v. such as law and order and even daily, when someone gets pulled over for a ticket.
jsoria89
04-27-2007, 01:55 PM
"Fascinaton of abomination" in Heart of Darkness shows how corrupt the continent has become and how its inhabitants do nothing to prevent or discourage such corruption. In fact, these people fuel the corruption in their fascination and obsessions with the abomination.
TCHarkins
04-27-2007, 01:56 PM
I totally agree. You are sooooo smart! This must be prevelent in the Heart of Darkness!!!
nicole mohajer
04-27-2007, 01:56 PM
" Fascination of abomination," could mean that people are interested in what is wrong. It could mean that some people could be attracted to evil or wrong doings.
iamthealliance
04-27-2007, 01:56 PM
"the fascination of abomination" i think is when people are attracted to things that are horific or bad. Like kate said i think it people are drawn to bad events so that they can see that they are not in them. :brow:
poozclues
04-27-2007, 01:56 PM
well the facination of abomination alludes to humanity's need to feel horrified. for example, why do people go see the freak show at the circus? why is it that the majority of all programs on t.v. are directed to the obscure nature of portraying various abominations? The simple fact is, that the facination of abomination appeals to all of us, because its out of the "norm". The sight of something out of the ordinary causes exitement in people. and people want to be exited. Hence the whole facination of abomination. and that is what i think about that :blush: :banana:
thrillainmanila
04-27-2007, 01:56 PM
Webster's Dictionary defines abomination as "anything greatly disliked or abhorred", thus to have a "fascination with the abomination" is similar to staring at a car crash and wondering, nay hoping, that someone has died.:cold: :cold:
Russell Mycorn!
04-27-2007, 01:58 PM
the fascination of abomination is the portrayal of the human fascination with evil. everyone is taught to strive for good so the fascination with evil develops because of the supression of things that are bad or wrong. i am intrigued by people that are manipulative and caniving just because it is interesting to me how they can contrive these sort of character traits. i think all people are like that but we are taught not to respond to things in that manner so its supressed and thats where the fascination comes from!
xoxo
Russell Laurence
TCHarkins
04-27-2007, 01:58 PM
me too
Brad Lee
04-27-2007, 01:59 PM
hey i do not agree...
DanishDevil
04-27-2007, 02:00 PM
"The fascination of the abomination..." What does this mean to you?
To me, this means that things that are horrible fascinate us. People are always drawn to horror and death, which is why the media centers on such things. People always want to know what Police Officers are doing if they see a unit outside their house, people always want to look at traffic collisions and rubberneck. Horror often fascinates.
- Zack Licudine
Period 3
awikenheiser
04-27-2007, 02:03 PM
"fascination of abomination" means to me that people are so fascinated with distruction that they become corrupt. Especially in Africa they are obsessed with corruption and thriving it.
jessicas
04-27-2007, 08:41 PM
I believe that the "fascination of abomination" is referring to humans being attracted to terrible or horrific subjects. This attitude is mostly shown in the media and movies which leads to people to think negatively. People are mainly interested to learn about car crashes, murders, etc. in the world rather than to gain knowledge of pleasant topics.
T1LLxFOREVER
04-27-2007, 11:52 PM
"The fascination of the abomination..." (basically a fascination with primordial darkness) how the mind can be corrupted by the "wild" things out there, "reflecting a belief in man's original origins"
The phrase was used in Heart of Darkness (1899) to describe the core component of a man named Kurtz who had abandoned a uniform and the conventions of civilized warfare in favor of aggrandizement in both an economic and personal sense.
proz.com/kudoz/1744676
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AJBilling
05-01-2007, 01:32 PM
"The Fascination of Abomination," to me this means many different things. It is when something is so wrong or so obscene you just have to look at it. In the heart of darkness Marlow walks by a man who has been killed and rotting in a long patch of grass. No one has stopped to help or get rid of the rotting body but everyone just looks and keeps passing by. No one cares the whole area is a fascination of abomination in a way. Everyone keeps walking by and looking but never does anything to stop the madness that is going on.
:wave: :banana:
ddubis
05-01-2007, 01:33 PM
"Fascination of abomination.." to me means that people have fascination or interest in destruction. Many people have this quality and are more interested about the things in society that are corrupted and destroyed (ie. accidents, natural disasters, murders) then they are in the things that are done for the good of the community and world. Destruction draws a persons interests in and feel the need to know what has happened and wants to know the details. An example of this would be an accident on the freeway and all the cars backed up. This is because everyone is fascinated by the accident. All of the cars drive by slowly wanting to see what it is, trying to figure out what and how it happened, and want to know if anybody was hurt or killed.
andrew.hidayat
09-01-2007, 07:40 AM
How is the notion 'fascination of the abomination' related of presented in Heart of Darkness?
Yvonne Sturgeon
11-01-2007, 03:07 PM
Sorry for the late response- but unsure of what you are asking. The other posts are from my high school seniors (who have gone on to graduate and are- hopefully- somewhere now where they may impress their instructors with their insight). Did you read any of what they wrote? Much of the events (factual) that took place during the ivory trade in the Congo were indeed abominations; Conrad attempts to prove that it is our human nature to be fascinated by the horror that surrounds us- even to the extent of 'heads on sticks' and 'rotting hippo meat' being eaten...and how far we are capable of going before being lost forever to it. Essentially, when we are no longer bothered by the atrocities we see, but simply have no response at all- that character is Kurtz. He is in the end the object of his own despair, and his very lack of concern is what drives him mad.
latimeri
11-10-2007, 12:24 PM
But you are beside the matter.
shorty_67
01-11-2009, 03:08 PM
i was wondering if maybe you might be able to help me . . .
i need to do a essay on the subtopic of the river about Marlow's perspective of it. so far ive got how he thinks it will be super easy (his aunt getting him the job on the steamboat) and how diffucult it becomes (all the attacks and people dying) and how it isnt his expection of the river at all after metting Kurtz and seeing what he really is and how the trip changes his views of the river . . .
any input would be SOOOO helpfull
Cat_Brenners
01-11-2009, 11:36 PM
Facination of Abomination means to me that some poeple love destruction of others. Kind of scary thought.
Cat
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