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hbacharya
04-19-2007, 12:48 PM
Who is God? Myths say he is in heaven. If we pray he will alight from heaven to lift you. So go on praying. This is what our priests teach us. But I do not beleive this.

God is everything. God is manifest in everything. This universe is god, and worldliness is godliness. Having said this I may said to have made some ambigous statements.

How do you realize divinity or godliness in this world? Stick to the law of nature,as the earth that holds you obeys, and the sun that begot or fathered this planet succombs to the law of nature. You can expand, and people this earth in large numbers. But never break the law of nature.

Now you are breaking. To build your houses and cities you destroy others' and to teem your houses you empty and desert others'. Yet you claim your religiosity. Damn with your religiosity if you hold this beleif, a belief that you are the master and the rest of other creatures are to serve you.

No, see godliness in everythying. Be appreciative of everything. I may sound rathe pedantic and arrogant. But this is an expression of what i beleive in .

This earth is [art of a higher entity. The last entity is something that resourse all. Then since we are part of that ultimate reality, and how can we are diffwerent from what we came. There is no duality, and if there is any that is sheer illusion.

I beleive even stones have souls. Even the sun, the earth and the moon too have souls,and there are souls everywhere. Everything including stars have souls. To understand this fact we need to have a power of contemplation.

Divinizing oneself is a method of realizing oneself at source. When we see the source of us, the fountainhead wehrefrom life springs up we become divinized.
I think this.

cows
04-19-2007, 04:45 PM
...and the point of your post is? I'd be suprised if you put any thought into where you placed this.

would you like a pat on the back?

Here: *pat*. You have an idea of what god is. You fall into the catagory of people gullable enough to assume you really know. Congrats.

By the way, the statement "there is no duality" makes me want to vomit. If you study ... religion, psychology, philosophy, literature, you will see how the duality of man is the most basic principle of modern moral and religious conceptualization. Even if it is only in your struggle to apply this quazi-buddhist belief to the world you have to deal with every day - that is how the duality of man exists in you.

And if your god is everything... duality is a part of your god...

Bakiryu
04-19-2007, 05:01 PM
And your point is.....? You just explained some wiccan beliefs. Everybody knows the gods are part of everything. What's your point? How do we reply to this? *confused*

hbacharya
04-19-2007, 10:38 PM
And your point is.....? You just explained some wiccan beliefs. Everybody knows the gods are part of everything. What's your point? How do we reply to this? *confused*

I may not be good at expressing what is on my mind since English is a borrrwed or a second language of mine. In fact what I think is we are all parts of the whole. Since we are parts of something how can we be separate or apart from that part.Imagine where we came from. I do not know what you call it in the west, in the east we say this world is a spider' s web and it weaves a web, that symbolizes the cosmos and again it withdraws the web into itself. Therefore there is no question of duality at all. We are integral and indivisble and this seeming division is simply an aillusion. This sense of duality is a kind of miscomprehension of the structure of the universe, but in reality it is one and the same.

Like we, and the earth we inhabit is one and the same, and it when we depart we will be assimilated into all these elements, the flesh will be integrated into the soil of the earth, the blood into the ocean, the breath into the wind, what remains is not separate from the elements of the universe. And if you beleive in the soul, and it is also part of the universal soul, and this divisive feeling is a sheer unrelaization of the cosmic construction.

I think this is what I beleive in and this gives the clarity of my writing.

If still confsion persists, i am open to discussion.

Lote-Tree
04-20-2007, 03:08 AM
I think this is what I beleive in and this gives the clarity of my writing.


Your belief is that of a "Pantheist" as oppose to "Panentheist".

Pantheism (Greek: πάν ( 'pan' ) = all and θεός ( 'theos' ) = God) literally means "God is All" and "All is God". It is the view that everything is of an all-encompassing immanent abstract God; or that the universe, or nature, and God are equivalent. More detailed definitions tend to emphasize the idea that natural law, existence, and the universe (the sum total of all that is, was, and shall be) is represented or personified in the theological principle of an abstract 'god'.

Panentheism (from Greek: πάν (‘pan’ ) = all, en = in, and theos = God; "all-in-God") is the theological position that God is immanent within the Universe, but also transcends it. It is distinguished from pantheism, which holds that God is synonymous with the material universe. In panentheism, God is viewed as creator and/or animating force behind the universe, and the source of universal morality. The term is closely associated with the Logos of Greek philosophy in the works of Herakleitos, which pervades the cosmos and whereby all things were made.

for info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panentheism