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Danik 2016
01-28-2017, 10:03 PM
RA-Sorry! Searched again for the Psalm Book, but another site also asked for a credit card. They are all traps
AR- Daring poet and daring poem!

Rosa Luxemburg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Luxemburg

tailor STATELY
01-29-2017, 03:15 AM
RL: Interesting woman. I do not understand the politics of her tumultuous times, but her passion shined.

Lucrezia Tornabuoni... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucrezia_Tornabuoni

http://themaidenscourt.blogspot.com/2010/01/lucrezia-tornabuoni-renaissance-poet.html

Danik 2016
01-29-2017, 01:54 PM
RL-You are right!
LT-A cultured and influential Italian woman in the Renaissance

Tristan Tzara

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan_Tzara

http://www.artyfactory.com/art_appreciation/art_movements/dadaism.htm

http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/tristan_tzara/poems/3776

tailor STATELY
01-31-2017, 09:17 AM
TT: Very complex... Always progressive... One of the founders of Dada. Fun poem. More study needed: Symbolism/surrealism/ilk.

Santōka Taneda... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santōka_Taneda

Danik 2016
01-31-2017, 02:44 PM
ST-Impressed by his life story

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Campbell_(poet)

https://ww.poemhunter.com/poem/to-the-rainbow/

Danik 2016
01-31-2017, 02:45 PM
ST-Impressed by his life story

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Campbell_(poet)

https://ww.poemhunter.com/poem/to-the-rainbow/

tailor STATELY
02-01-2017, 06:25 AM
TC: Very accomplished poet... link correction: https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/to-the-rainbow/ ... enjoyed the poem.

Charlotte Wilder... http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/programs-events/events/Editing_Charlotte_Wilder

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/browse?contentId=21116

Danik 2016
02-01-2017, 01:20 PM
Tks. for correcting the link.:blush:
CW-Daughter of the playwright Thonton.Terrible life, interesting poem.





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Congreve
http://www.online-literature.com/congreve/

tailor STATELY
02-02-2017, 05:49 AM
WC: "A Clear Wit, sound Judgement and a Merciful Disposition". Most accomplished.

Christian Bök... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Bök

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/features/audio/detail/75318

Danik 2016
02-02-2017, 09:06 PM
CB-Great find, Tailor, after that I´ll never forget any more what Dadaism is like.Researched a bit the German poet Hugo Ball and found a different interpretation of the first poem, Totenklage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmHrkEn1c-Y

Benjamin Péret
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_P%C3%A9ret

https://peonymoon.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/benjamin-perets-the-big-game/

tailor STATELY
02-03-2017, 03:57 AM
HB: Most definitely a different interpretation by Hanna Aurbacher, Teophil Maier, and Ewald Liska; more an orison than a chant. As for defining Dadaism I keep finding more and more nuances that defy understanding, which is prolly the point. Your links for Tristan Tzara recently are also very informative. BP: Still more Dadaism. I've saved links on Surrealism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrealism and Symbolism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolism_(arts) that I haven't yet dissected. There seems to be quite a political theme by creators of the progressive arts - perhaps spurred by the intelligentsia. I like the poem "Portrait of Max Ernst", and am intrigued by "My Late Misfortunes"... with the dedication to Yves Tanguy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yves_Tanguy which I can not fathom.

Patti Smith... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patti_Smith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNunaSLNNPk

Danik 2016
02-03-2017, 07:34 PM
BP- I believe the progressive movements, Dadaism, Surrealism, Symbolism and also de German Expressionism were seeking to interpret a world that was turning upside down.
https://www.google.com.br/search?q=Marc+Chagall+-Falling+Angel&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjguc3CifXRAhVBlpAKHZNhASIQsAQIHg&biw=1093&bih=459#imgrc=h_NE0sPSo_uiCM:
As for the dedications to Max Ernst and Yves Tanguy, it is difficult to know if there was a more personal reason for it. The French surrealist were a selected group. They influenced each other and therefore they also dedicated their works to each other
PS-Wonderful poem and video! I must listen to it again


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutardji_Calzoum_Bachri

http://www.fas.nus.edu.sg/malay/documents/Black%20Soup.pdf

tailor STATELY
02-04-2017, 09:14 AM
Ah, I see. MC: Incredible work. SCB: Very imaginative poet... enjoyed "Q" and others (up to pg 28; and continuing).

Basil Bunting... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Bunting

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/browse?contentId=19115

Danik 2016
02-04-2017, 06:42 PM
BB-A very intense life. The beginning of "The word" reminds me strongly of cacians style


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betti_Alver

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-piper-10/

tailor STATELY
02-05-2017, 03:37 AM
BA: Sweet, tragic little poem.

Anyte of Tegea... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anyte_of_Tegea

http://elfinspell.com/ClassicalTexts/Poetry/AnyteOfTegea-Sappho/Aldington-Anyte.html

Danik 2016
02-05-2017, 08:03 PM
A o T-Another interesting discovery "one of the nine outstanding ancient women poets listed by Antipater of Thessalonica in the Palatine Anthology." I didn´t know there were so many ancient Greek women poets.
Most of her poems seem to be about dead people or animals.

Toi Derricotte
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toi_Derricotte

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/from-a-letter-about-snow/

tailor STATELY
02-06-2017, 08:10 PM
TD: I found this amusing: "... endured the canon's litany of dead and near-dead white male poets". The poetic device used in her poem is quite interesting: mirroring/comparing herself to the Pyrenees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Budbill

http://www.poetry.us.com/davidbudbill.html

Danik 2016
02-06-2017, 09:10 PM
TD- She compares herself with the dog, I think. Yes, you are right, sounds somewhat biased, these poets are very much alive,
DB-Visual itinerant poem. Reminds me of the French flaneurs writing about Paris

Bacchylides

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacchylides


http://www.blackcatpoems.com/b/bacchylides.html

tailor STATELY
02-07-2017, 05:45 AM
B: Interesting his rivalry with Pindar; also the interweaving of politics and political favor play. The poem is a rather nice example of classical minimalism.

Barbara Hofland... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Hofland

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/35193/35193-h/35193-h.htm

Danik 2016
02-07-2017, 07:18 PM
BH-Seems to be cute this 19 C epistolar novel in verse. Must have a better look at it.


Hans Sachs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Sachs


https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/a-fair-melody-to-be-sung-by-good-christians/

tailor STATELY
02-08-2017, 12:29 AM
HS: 6000 works ! Saved his poem for use in a future lesson at church.

Sophie Mereau... http://sophie.byu.edu/node/3265

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oeqzEedDp0

Danik 2016
02-08-2017, 09:33 PM
HS-Yes, some Germans of past centuries have an astonishing production. Glad you liked the poem. He probably was one of the first protestant hymn writers.
SM- Ahead of her time, difficult and short life! Even her poem shows the feeling of imprisonment by conventions. A whole family of poets:Clemens Brentano, Sophie and Clemens´sister Bettina.

Matthew Arnold

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Arnold

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/immortality/#content

tailor STATELY
02-09-2017, 07:44 AM
MA: Both genius and derivative depending on the critic. "Immortality", a Petrarchan sonnet/nice turn at L9: an interesting read. L14's "and that hardly" seems a bit stilted to me.

Ana Castillo... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Castillo

https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/303342-i-ask-the-impossible-poems

Danik 2016
02-09-2017, 07:08 PM
AC-Beautiful poem about the grey zones of love!
Found another one:http://www.english.illinois.edu/MAPS/poets/a_f/castillo/onlinepoems.htm

Cesar Vallejo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A9sar_Vallejo

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/under-the-poplars/

tailor STATELY
02-10-2017, 05:23 AM
AC: A very strong poem. CV: A full life crammed in 46 years. Beautiful language.

Vicente Aleixandre... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicente_Aleixandre

http://www.vianegativa.us/tag/vicente-aleixandre/

Danik 2016
02-10-2017, 09:54 AM
VA: Uau! A Spanish surrealist! Impressive poem, Latin sensuousness!

Antonin Artaud
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonin_Artaud

https://allpoetry.com/Antonin-Artaud

tailor STATELY
02-10-2017, 08:24 PM
AA: His theatre a bit too over the top for my taste; such suffering transferred to his art. I liked "Jardin Noir" very much; "The Nerve Meter" a bit more in tune with his ethos.

Annette von Droste-Hülshoff... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annette_von_Droste-Hülshoff

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/oh-night-10/ ... https://www.poemhunter.com/annette-von-droste-hulshoff/poems/

Danik 2016
02-10-2017, 10:12 PM
AA-Yes he is a very sombre, tortured character. I hesitated if I should include him. But he is one of the great references of surrealism

AvDH-I visited the castle near Münster where she was born.She is one of the very few German women writer you find in the antologies before the 20C. I intend to read her famous novel still


Henry Carey

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Carey_(writer)

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/namby-pamby/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb8UKNbTHxU

tailor STATELY
02-11-2017, 04:59 AM
HC: I enjoyed the song and lyrics http://211.116.138.23/tulip/dl_image1/IMG/06//000000028293/SERVICE/000000028293_01.PDF over the poem. He seems very irreverent in the style of Mozart as depicted in the movie "Amadeus" where Mozart wrote for the common people.

Clarence Major... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Major

Poetry: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/50191

Art: http://www.clarencemajor.com/html/ptg_landscape.html

Danik 2016
02-11-2017, 04:20 PM
HC-Thanks for the lyrics, Tailor. As you probably imagined I liked the song, but just picked up one or another word.
CM-Very interesting, an multiartist. His colourful pictures remaind me a bit of Tarsila do Amaral:https://www.wikiart.org/en/tarsila-do-amaral
I am always astonished about how many awards US artists get.



Maya Angelou

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Angelou

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/caged-bird-21/

tailor STATELY
02-12-2017, 03:59 AM
TdA: Yes I see it; the color is striking. MA: Ah, Maya... one of my favorite poems by her.

Alice Fulton... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Fulton

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/detail/55540

Danik 2016
02-12-2017, 08:46 AM
AF- This description fits her poem I think:"the dance of the intellect among words".

Francis of Assisi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_of_Assisi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeHzzH5zXSI

tailor STATELY
02-14-2017, 03:31 AM
FoA: I read in the wiki about the song "All Creatures of Our God and King" which is in my faith's hymnal #62, one of my favorites; a hymn paraphrase of Francis' "Canticle of the Sun". I was quite in the dark re: Francis - I hadn't realized his literary value. Cute rendition of Francis' prayer.

Allen Tate... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Tate

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/54016

Danik 2016
02-14-2017, 02:39 PM
FoA-I´m glad to know that he is appreciated outside Catholicism.
AT-Eventfull life, but very sad poem. I hope your wife is better and that you spend the day together.

Théophile Gautier
ps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Théophile_Gautier

http://www.thegreatcat.org/cats-19th-century-part-16-theophile-gautier/

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetr

tailor STATELY
02-15-2017, 09:34 AM
Wife recuperating little by little... had our first date night in ages: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4y_h9xbyDE . TG: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Théophile_Gautier ; quite influential... could not resolve your poetryfoundation link (404 error), but I enjoyed this poem: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/55260

Gérard de Nerval... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gérard_de_Nerval

http://www.lieder.net/lieder/assemble_texts.html?LanguageId=7&SongCycleId=494

Danik 2016
02-15-2017, 08:56 PM
That´s great, Tailor! Congrats!
In Portuguese this film is called The four lives of a dog
Correcting the bad link but the poem you chose is also beautiful:
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/browse?contentId=35496
GdN- Close friend of TG. Beautiful poem, Was aware of his anguished prose, but not of his poetry and his closeness to the great German poets.

Nazim Hikmet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A2z%C4%B1m_Hikmet

http://www.poetrycat.com/nazim-hikmet/angina-pectoris

tailor STATELY
02-16-2017, 07:32 AM
TG: His poem "Art" nice indeed... my mind got side-tracked a bit at the word "marbles": my failing. NH: Poem should have been better proof "read", but is an interesting simple conversational piece about current events/health/incarceration which seems to be the major themes in his life.

Helmina von Chézy... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmina_von_Chézy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dAlN1PRopg

Danik 2016
02-16-2017, 09:17 PM
HvB-German Romanticism, just the time I´m working on. Very modern for those times.The video wasn´t available but I found some of her love poems in German.

Christopher Brennam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Brennan
https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-twilight-of-disquietude/

tailor STATELY
02-17-2017, 06:26 AM
HvC: The video was of Schubert's: Rosamunde, D.797 which was produced as "incidental music" to Helmina von Chézy's play of the same name. I looked for her poetry and could find no English translations after a moderate search. CB: Tragic end to his life; enjoyed his poem.

Blaga Dimitrova... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaga_Dimitrova

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2010/aug/18/poetry-blaga-dimitrova/#

Danik 2016
02-17-2017, 07:24 PM
HvC: I also found only poems in German. Typical romantic love poems.Found another version of D. 797. Sounds familiar.
https://mp3nerds.org/31457666-rosamunde-d-797-incidental-music-to-helmina-von-chezy-s-play-entr-acte-no-2.html

BD- A strong and beautiful human and political voice.
http://bnr.bg/en/post/100607578/2003-blaga-dimitrova-integrity-in-times-of-political-disgrace

Duane Ackerson

http://oregonpoeticvoices.org/poet/219/

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-blind-man-13/

tailor STATELY
02-18-2017, 04:08 AM
BD: Loved this: an "inconvenient brainworker". DA: "The Blind Man" an interesting reflection. Love his minimalism: http://www.ravennapress.com/alba/issue_10/ackerson10a.html (2-pages)

Ann Taylor... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Taylor_(poet)

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-violet-4/

Danik 2016
02-18-2017, 07:27 PM
DA-Yes, good find. Concise images. Loved "A mirror" and "Umbrella".

Ann Taylor- Cute poem. Have to look for her criticism.




Thomas Heywood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Heywood

https://books.google.com.br/books?vid=OCLC08539712&id=Z8nsln283igC&pg=RA2-PA328&lpg=RA2-PA328&dq=heywood+troia&as_brr=1&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=heywood%20troia&f=false

tailor STATELY
02-19-2017, 03:55 AM
TH: Quite prolific would be an understatement. Reading the c. 1600 English is quite an exercise... what will they think of our languages 500 years hence ?

Hilda Hilst... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilda_Hilst

http://brazilpoetry.blogspot.com/2007/03/while-i-write-verse-you-surely-live.html

Danik 2016
02-19-2017, 05:50 PM
TH-I love that old English.
HH-She is mostly known for her plays.Liked the poem, though.


Homer

http://www.biography.com/people/homer-9342775#synopsis

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/6130/6130-h/6130-h.html#toc5

tailor STATELY
02-21-2017, 06:30 AM
Homer: I studied his works in school (Tragedy, Epic, and Myth) and recall learning many literary devices he used including the use of foils, especially in the Iliad.

Herodotus... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herodotus

https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/h/herodotus.html

Danik 2016
02-21-2017, 01:53 PM
Homer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foil_(literature). One important new word in English. What was also new for meis that there is a translation of the Iliad by Pope.
Herodotus: I like this beginning:
"Here are presented the results of the enquiry carried out by Herodotus of Halicarnassus. The purpose is to prevent the traces of human events from being erased by time..."


Hesiod
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesiod

"I would then that I lived not among the fifth race of men, but either had died before or had been born afterward. For now verily is a race of iron. Neither by day shall they ever cease from weariness and woe, neither in the night from wasting, and sore cares shall the gods give them. Howbeit even for them shall good be mingled with evil. But this race also of mortal men shall Zeus destroy when they shall have hoary temples at their birth. Father shall not be like to his children, neither the children like unto the father: neither shall guest to host, nor friend to friend, nor brother to brother be dear as aforetime: and they shall give no honour to their swiftly ageing parents, and shall chide them with words of bitter speech, sinful men, knowing not the fear of the gods. These will not return to their aged parents the price of their nurture: but might shall be right, and one shall sack the other’s city. Neither shall there be any respect of the oath abiding or of the just or of the good: rather shall they honour the doer of evil and the man of insolence. Right shall lie in might of hand, and Reverence shall be no more: the bad shall wrong the better man, speaking crooked words and abetting them with an oath. Envy, brawling, rejoicing in evil, of hateful countenance, shall follow all men to their sorrow. Then verily shall Reverence and Awe veil their fair bodies in white robes and depart from the wide-wayed earth unto Olympos to join the company of the Immortals, forsaking men: but for men that die shall remain but miserable woes: and against evil there shall be no avail.”
Hesiod, WORKS AND DAYS

tailor STATELY
02-22-2017, 08:13 AM
Can't recall reading Hesiod's works... will have to correct that.

Hélène Cixous... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hélène_Cixous

http://myopicpoets.blogspot.com/2010/09/where-is-she-helene-cixous.html

Danik 2016
02-22-2017, 08:34 PM
Didn´t read him also. But wanted all the three H fathers together. Useful link:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/hesiod/
HC- known in Brazil for her very personal interpretation of Clarice Lispector, our greatest woman writer.

Chairil Anwar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chairil_Anwar
https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/pines-in-the-distance/

tailor STATELY
02-23-2017, 07:12 AM
CA: 26 years old at death and quite influential; sombre in tone.

Arthur Sze... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Sze

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-owl-6/

Danik 2016
02-23-2017, 08:44 PM
AS-The poem reminds me a bit of angliholic, but more cerebral


Shel Silverstein
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shel_Silverstein

http://thewhynot100.blogspot.com.br/2014/05/46-short-and-sweet-shel-silverstein.html

tailor STATELY
02-24-2017, 08:10 AM
SS: I had no idea; an American treasure: I'm familiar with a lot of his songs. Some of his poetry has that Biggus edge (and I mean that in a good way).

Juana Inés de la Cruz... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juana_Inés_de_la_Cruz

http://chapala.com/elojo/index.php/moreinfo/104-articles2011/december-2011/1335-the-tenth-muse-sor-juana-ines-de-la-cruz-1648-1695

Wizard272002
02-24-2017, 07:34 PM
Crash Bandicoot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crash_Bandicoot)

tailor STATELY
02-24-2017, 07:41 PM
lol

Beetle Bailey... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beetle_Bailey

Danik 2016
02-24-2017, 09:50 PM
Sor Juana: Remarcable woman poet. Amazing fact that she had to become a nun to be able to pursur her studies and write her poetry.

BB-Why that´s the "Recruta Zero" as the strip was known here.
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recruta_Zero

Bolinha the Brazilian "Tubby Tompkins" from Little Lulu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Lulu

tailor STATELY
02-25-2017, 01:43 AM
I remember Little Lulu fondly. I don't remember Tubby having his own series.

B.C. of the comic strip B.C.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.C._(comic_strip) ... two of my daily reads. Proof that cavemen lived with dinosaurs (lol).

http://www.gocomics.com/bc

http://www.gocomics.com/back-to-bc (older version )

Danik 2016
02-25-2017, 07:54 AM
Here, "Bolinha"(Tubby)and "Luluzinha" where two separate magazines, the one was supposed to be for the boys, the other for the girls. I thougt they were Brazilian. We still use the expression "Clube do Bolinha" for any gathering that is only for men.

Captain America

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America

tailor STATELY
02-25-2017, 08:17 PM
Allan Quatermain... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Quatermain

In "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_League_of_Extraordinary_Gentlemen Allan becomes immortal.

Danik 2016
02-25-2017, 09:17 PM
Saw one of the films "The Mines of King Salomon"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasimodo

tailor STATELY
02-25-2017, 09:58 PM
Victor Hugo classic. Haven't read it but have seen the Lon Chaney and Charles Laughton film versions a few times.

Queen Hippolyta... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippolyta_(DC_Comics)

Danik 2016
02-26-2017, 11:01 AM
Impressive! I remember one Brazilian parody of the Wonder Woman is the "Silicone Woman" (Mulher Silicone)

Hulk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_(comics)

tailor STATELY
02-27-2017, 07:38 PM
I didn't realize all of the permutations that Hulk went through.

Hank Pym... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Pym

Danik 2016
02-27-2017, 07:57 PM
Neither me. Seems to be a similar fable as superman and spiderman: the common man that is transformed, getting superpowers
HP- This one I don´t know

Popeye
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popeye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4qOf3Mus1Q

tailor STATELY
02-27-2017, 08:58 PM
One of my first super-hero favorite... especially the older Fleisher toons.

Perry the Platypus... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_the_Platypus (yes, I've seen him on Phineas and Ferb with the grandkids)

Danik 2016
02-27-2017, 10:14 PM
Cute! I didn´t know him, but the episodes were shown here in 2008.


Peter Pan (I prefer the Disney version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gENkMvhgBuI

tailor STATELY
02-28-2017, 04:42 AM
Cute.

Penelope Pitstop... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penelope_Pitstop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRRzWTRvR5k

Danik 2016
02-28-2017, 09:41 AM
PP-Clever lady.
Sorry forcing issues a bit otherwise there is no getting away from "P". Learnt just now that "Tio Patinhas" was inspired by Charles Dicken´s Scrooge.

Uncle Patinhas otherwise Scrooge Mc Duck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrooge_McDuck

tailor STATELY
02-28-2017, 02:53 PM
(lol) I'll go with Uncle (Tio) Patinhas... btb I found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWwSVOo5K_k&list=RDJWwSVOo5K_k&index=1 which is "Music Inspired by the Life and Times of Scrooge" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_Inspired_by_the_Life_and_Times_of_Scrooge

Princess Zelda... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Zelda

Danik 2016
02-28-2017, 05:04 PM
I like her. I only knew about the existence of Zelda Fitzgerald

Zorro (the fox from California)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zorro

tailor STATELY
03-02-2017, 12:57 AM
I remember the Disney series and maybe an older movie or two.

Zodiac Master

Danik 2016
03-02-2017, 06:17 AM
Leaving Gotham City

Mary Poppins

tailor STATELY
03-03-2017, 12:10 AM
I still haven't seen Mary Poppins from start to end.

Phileas Fogg... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phileas_Fogg

Danik 2016
03-03-2017, 02:26 PM
I never saw it at all.

Fred Flintstone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flintstones

tailor STATELY
03-04-2017, 02:54 AM
Ah yes, remember him well... a lot like my Dad.

Ferd Berfel... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_MT8iHbLcc

Danik 2016
03-04-2017, 09:53 AM
Lol!

Bliss Carman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bliss_Carman

https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/html/1807/4350/poem433.html

tailor STATELY
03-04-2017, 01:04 PM
BC: Very accomplished as a poet; a shame all his early financial losses. A lovely poem "The Vagabonds".

Carol Muske-Dukes... https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poets/detail/carol-muske-dukes

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/46826

Danik 2016
03-04-2017, 04:26 PM
Carol Muske-Dukes- Advanced for her time. Strong imagery of the poem.


Marion Angus
http://www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poetry/poets/marion-angus

http://www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poetry/poems/silver-city

tailor STATELY
03-04-2017, 05:16 PM
Wonderful Envelope Sonnet. I tried to imagine a soft female Scot's accent as I scanned.

Addie L. Ballou... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addie_L._Ballou

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b3135229;view=1up;seq=21

Danik 2016
03-04-2017, 10:27 PM
I like written Scottish. I just remembered a n English teacher from Scotland. He was a very good teacher and very imaginative. Under his direction we wrote the promising fragment of a novel, The Straw Hat,
AB- The Padre´s Dream, a female epic! Thats not so usual.

Bolesław Leśmian

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boles%C5%82aw_Le%C5%9Bmian

http://leoyankevich.com/archives/249

tailor STATELY
03-05-2017, 03:14 AM
BL: He had me until L14... maybe just the translation?

Léonie Adams... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Léonie_Adams

Danik 2016
03-05-2017, 04:40 PM
BL-Can´t say.I liked his imagery

LA-http://homepages.wmich.edu/~cooneys/poems/Adams.html. I wonder what´s the difference between laureate and "common" poets.

Anton Chekhov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Chekhov

tailor STATELY
03-07-2017, 07:20 AM
LA: The selection of poems you referenced is extraordinary. U.S. Poet Laureate: https://blogs.loc.gov/catbird/2012/08/how-is-the-poet-laureate-selected/ ... others possibly chosen similarly. AC: Another genius short lived.

Constance Naden... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constance_Naden

http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/vwwp/view?docId=VAB7115 ! I like how this webpage is linked; so well done.

Danik 2016
03-07-2017, 03:12 PM
Constance Nader
JANUARY 28th, 1880.

NO more I long for April’s fitful sheen,
For little fluttering lives, that passed in June,
For leaves and flowers, by sad October lost;
Since now in ecstasy mine eyes have seen
The rich blue heaven of a summer noon
O’er dazzling trees, thick‐robed with mossy frost.

Amid the leafless hedge‐rows jewel‐twined,
Great trunks and boughs, not crystal‐clad as they,
Like black majestic arches I behold;
All wreathed and crowned with woven sprays, defined
In every tender shade of pearly grey,
And radiant white, that glitters into gold.

Around the mighty limbs all gnarled and bowed,
The oak‐tree twigs are finely interlaced;
The willows droop in bright cascades of foam,
Each distant tree, a white and feathery cloud,
The nearer branches, delicately traced,
And gleaming pure against the azure dome.



The winds are hushed—there comes no murmuring breeze
To stir the poplar’s lofty sun‐lit cone,
Or myriad branchlets of the wide‐spread beech:
Through this all‐glorious temple of the trees,
As through the house of God, I walk alone;
A silence, as of worship, is their speech.

You are right about the page. Found also a poem by her in very good German.
Thanks for the excelent link on laureating poets. It gave me the idea for a new thread.

Nathan Alterman
http://www.poetryinternationalweb.net/pi/site/poet/item/3174/12/Nathan-Alterman
http://www.poetryinternationalweb.net/pi/site/poem/item/3435/auto/0/Moon

tailor STATELY
03-08-2017, 05:33 AM
CN: Good choice of one of her poems. NA: Incredible poem.

Anne Bradstreet... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Bradstreet

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/bradstreet/bradstreet.html

Danik 2016
03-08-2017, 09:35 PM
AB- A founding mother! She knew a lot at a time when a woman writing at all was a transgression

Barnabe Googe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnabe_Googe

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A01909.0001.001/1:41?rgn=div1;view=fulltext

tailor STATELY
03-09-2017, 04:42 AM
BG: 16th century English is difficult for me... but I'll take a stab at it -
Give me money, take friendship - who so lies/for friends are gone once adversity comes/when money yet remains safe in (the) chest

That quickly brings misery/for friends show their faces when riches abound/comes time of proof, farewell, they must (go) away/Believe me well they are not to be found/If God but sends once the lowering day/gold never starts aside but in distress/finds ways enough to ease thine heavens

Gertrud von Le Fort... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrud_von_Le_Fort

http://annebender.blogspot.com/2016/02/gertrud-von-le-fort.html

Danik 2016
03-09-2017, 08:38 PM
BG-Renaissance sincerity! I liked your translation, seems to be a circular poem, the ideas repeat themselves.
Le Fort- Very strong images. A German catholic is somewhat unusual to me

Franklin Rosemont
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Rosemont

tailor STATELY
03-10-2017, 05:00 AM
FR: Hard to find poetry online but finally found this: http://www.surrealistmovement-usa.org/pages/poetry.html I'd like to read his book on Breton https://www.poemhunter.com/andre-breton/ .

Richard Wilbur... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Wilbur

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-death-of-a-toad/

Danik 2016
03-10-2017, 12:12 PM
FR-Searched a lot. I found this page but didn´t notice his poem on it. An probable influence named in the poem:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giambattista_Vico
Probably author's rights still with the family.
RW-Loved the poem.


W. H. Auden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._Auden

https://www.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/unknown-citizen

tailor STATELY
03-11-2017, 03:50 AM
FR: Zico - I never would have made the connection. WA: I like that he dabbled in all forms of poetry. His poem flows rather matter-of-factly, if I might state ever inexactly: oft worded with whimsy.

Ava von Göttweig... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ava_(poet)

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-annunciation-to-mary/

Danik 2016
03-11-2017, 08:26 PM
AvG- Again one of the hidden great women!Referred too as the 1. German female theologician. Found a long poem about the final judment. The charming and probably also the social aspect of it is the language, because it is written in old German.She took the stories from the Bible, but I think before Luther, the Bible could only be read in Latin. So maybe she acted a bit as a translator.

Gertrud Kolmar (a favorite)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrud_Kolmar

https://allpoetry.com/Gertrud-Kolmar

tailor STATELY
03-12-2017, 03:44 AM
GK: My heart aches upon learning she was a victim of Auschwitz. Enjoyed the selection of poetry. Her poetry has a wistful quality; had she worn a smile in her portrait it would have seemed out of place.

Keki N. Daruwalla... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keki_N._Daruwalla

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/suddenly-the-tree/

Danik 2016
03-12-2017, 07:03 PM
KD-Loved his strong images:"Then with a drone of straining engines
the bees rose like a swarm of passions
from a dying heart, and left."

Dante da Maiano (the other one)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante_da_Maiano

http://www.italianstudies.org/poetry/cn2.htm

tailor STATELY
03-13-2017, 11:27 PM
DdM: Interesting the interaction between DdM and his contemporary poets including the correspondence with DA you cited.

Mathilde Blind... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathilde_Blind

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-music-lesson/

Danik 2016
03-14-2017, 08:30 PM
MB-Very independent life at a time, when a woman couldn´t move around much without the company of a man. Cute poem, am going to post it next in the animals thread(if you don´t mind of course).


Ben Jonson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Jonson

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/50672

tailor STATELY
03-15-2017, 05:05 AM
MB: De nada. BJ: lol... just couldn't stay out of trouble; bold and irreverent and prolific. Enjoyed the poem - some wit in this: "I’ll tell you of more, and lie, so you will come".

Jane Kenyon... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Kenyon

2-poems:

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/not-here-12/

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-blue-bowl/

Miggs
03-15-2017, 10:59 AM
Trump is the best canidate every he better win against hillary wtf is this election kys kelleyanne conway

Danik 2016
03-15-2017, 01:36 PM
JK-Interesting perspective of absence in both poems.

Kenneth Allott
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Allott

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/aunt-sally-speaks/

tailor STATELY
03-16-2017, 09:19 AM
KA: Intriguing poem. I found an explanation in "Dividing Lines: Poetry, Class, and Ideology in the 1930s" by Adrian Caesar (googlebooks - so I won't post the link). The surrealism depicted explores (roughly) class/politics/war/hope (the lack thereof)/a timelessness.

Alfonsina Storni... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfonsina_Storni

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/lighthouse-in-the-night/

Danik 2016
03-16-2017, 09:04 PM
KA-Reread the poem. I find it feels contemporaneous:
"What shall we do with our hardened arteries/Under the zeppelin shade of catastrophe/but emulate the gloss and selfishness of china/Till the clocks fly away?"

Alfonsina and the sea:
http://www.seashellsandsunflowers.com/2011/10/alfonsina-and-sea.html



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simonides_of_Ceos


http://www.scottmanning.com/content/warpath-wednesday-go-tell-the-spartans/

tailor STATELY
03-17-2017, 08:02 AM
AS: Wonderful tribute song. My poem a foggy day at the seashore 11/12/2016 http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?38056-Subject-Poetry-Contest&p=1329749&viewfull=1#post1329749 is a thinly veiled surrender to the sea (note rather than wading to one's "knees" I used "waist" to break up the rhyme and cause pause). SoC: A shame so little is left of his work.

Charles Ghigna... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Ghigna

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/54337

Danik 2016
03-17-2017, 09:07 PM
TS-Revisited the poem. There seems to be more than one way to understand it. Isn´t there a "d" missing in "one gets used"?
CG-Nice poem. And I have the feeling he wrote the wiki side himself.


George Bernhard Shaw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bernard_Shaw

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/5217.George_Bernard_Shaw

tailor STATELY
03-18-2017, 07:39 AM
tS: You are absolutely correct... revised my web page/cannot correct post though. GBS: Incredible writer. Found this that might interest you that goes with his quote: “Animals are my friends...and I don't eat my friends.” ... http://mypoeticside.com/poets/george-bernard-shaw-poems

Susanna Centlivre... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanna_Centlivre

http://ota.ox.ac.uk/text/3871.html

Danik 2016
03-18-2017, 08:03 PM
GBS-I Like the poem but find it very difficult to eat only vegetables. I´m trying to diminish meat.
SC- Remarkable life. Poem shows good knowledge of the history of Britain.


Chuck Berry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Berry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuXz-Vbkg8A

tailor STATELY
03-19-2017, 01:28 AM
CB: Heard it on the news... another legend gone. I was just perusing (again) the Rolling Stone list of 100 best guitarists recently https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&ved=0ahUKEwievv34zeHSAhUq54MKHclRATMQFghMMAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollingstone.com%2Fmusic%2Fli sts%2F100-greatest-guitarists-20111123%2Fchuck-berry-20111122&usg=AFQjCNFsNUt5ivu1BcVCcbdfeA4hzcqYgQ&sig2=Z4B5feH-7z0Dukcu_3B_MQ , Chuck was a strong #7.

Going with a Barry: Barry Callaghan... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Callaghan

http://player.mashpedia.com/player.php?ref=mashpedia&q=1Zz2vFxwk7E

Danik 2016
03-19-2017, 07:16 PM
CB-Tks for the link. Sending it to rock fans. Quite a piece of late 20C there.
BC-Interesting environment, but couldn´t quite follow the poem, because it was spoken.


Carlos Gardel
http://soundsandcolours.com/articles/argentina/carlos-gardel-the-king-of-tango-8318/
(Sorry, didn´t find anything in English but at least one can appreciate his very characteristic music)

tailor STATELY
03-21-2017, 05:33 AM
CG: Enjoyed.

Gertrudis Gómez de Avellaneda... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrudis_Gómez_de_Avellaneda

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/to-a-butterfly-5/

Danik 2016
03-21-2017, 08:09 PM
GA-"He also gave reason that she was not feminine enough stating that she was more verbal than should be and was often too aggressive for a woman of the 19th century." :(


Astor Piazzola
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astor_Piazzolla
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wh8398FbKk

tailor STATELY
03-22-2017, 06:02 AM
AP: Amazing musicality. Interesting the classical/jazz influences fused with his innovative tango arrangements.

Phillis Wheatley... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillis_Wheatley

http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/phillis_wheatley/poems/17795

Danik 2016
03-22-2017, 10:30 PM
PW-This is utterly amazing: a slave poet of the 18C writing first rate poetry and being furthered by her owners! A pity her story ended so sadly.Good choice of poem.


https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Walter_Von_Der_Vogelweide
https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/i-ve-got-my-fief/

tailor STATELY
03-23-2017, 06:55 AM
WdvV: A knightly poet heralded by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow no less! His celebratory poem of receiving his fief reveals his manner.

Vita Sackville-West... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vita_Sackville-West

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-greater-cats-2/

Danik 2016
03-23-2017, 09:58 PM
VSW-Knew only about her relationship with VW. For both writers (and their husbands) it was very anguishing going against the social conventions of England. The bars of the great cats.

Susana Chávez
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susana_Ch%C3%A1vez
https://www.englishpen.org/campaigns/mexico-in-memory-of-susana-chavez-castillo-2/

tailor STATELY
03-24-2017, 05:55 AM
SC: Such a tragic end. "Open to the madness."

C. S. Lewis... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._S._Lewis

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/to-sleep-13/

Danik 2016
03-24-2017, 09:55 PM
Interesting life. I saw one film of the Narnia chronicles, but never read anything by him. I liked the poem.


Lewis Carrol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Carroll

https://www.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/jabberwocky

https://www.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/acrostic-0

tailor STATELY
03-25-2017, 12:02 AM
LC: Cute acrostic poem; I've written a handful myself (they're fun). "Jabberwocky" has been dear to me since I read the short story "Mimsy Were the Borogroves" anciently... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimsy_Were_the_Borogoves which was adapted into the movie "The Last Mimzy"... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Mimzy .

Claudia Emerson... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudia_Emerson

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/detail/58357

Danik 2016
03-25-2017, 09:50 PM
LC-Mimzical developments!
CE-Poem reads almost like poetic prose. But the poem form better masques the content.

Ernesto Cardenal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernesto_Cardenal

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/from-zero-hour/

tailor STATELY
03-28-2017, 07:34 AM
EC: "Political" would be an understatement... and yet a man of faith, though radical. His poem a rambling of corruption devolving occasionally into humorous word transmogrification.

Carl Sandburg... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sandburg

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/fog/ ... (one of my favorite minimalist poems.)

Danik 2016
03-28-2017, 08:52 PM
CS-A lot of different jobs. Loved the poem


Sherman Alexie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Alexie
https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/how-to-write-the-great-american-indian-novel-2/

tailor STATELY
03-30-2017, 07:29 AM
SA: An uncommon voice with a sense of humor, and pathos, about the indigenous American. (lol)... How to create the stereotypical American Indian poem, or movie for that matter.

Anne Killigrew...

https://www.poemhunter.com/best-poems/anne-killigrew/love-the-soul-of-poetry/

Danik 2016
03-30-2017, 10:28 PM
AK-Another of those women hidden in the folds of Art History!The Dryden poem on her:https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/44190

Kálmán Kalocsay

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1lm%C3%A1n_Kalocsay

http://poemsintranslation.blogspot.com.br/search/label/Kalman%20Kalocsay

tailor STATELY
03-31-2017, 07:01 AM
JD: Quite the homage. KK: Esperanto poetry... I remember one semester maybe of exposure to Esperanto in elementary school, and that was that.... I can still count to ten and that is all I remember. Not a warm fuzzy poem; a sign of his milieux.

Karoline von Günderrode... http://www.fembio.org/biographie.php/woman/biography/karoline-von-guenderrode/

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://lyrik.antikoerperchen.de/karoline-von-guenderrode-der-kuss-im-traume,textbearbeitung,169.html&prev=search

Auf Deutsch:

http://lyrik.antikoerperchen.de/karoline-von-guenderrode-der-kuss-im-traume,textbearbeitung,169.html

Danik 2016
03-31-2017, 10:52 PM
KvG-Impressed with her passion. She´s from the period I´m writing about, only my authors are male playwrights.The links didn´t work but I found the poem in German and these: lyricstranslate.com/en/karoline-von-günderode-lyrics.html. And the poets family Brentano keeps increasing.


Giuseppe Giusti
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Giusti (Italian English?)

https://perpwalk.wordpress.com/2010/09/13/the-snail-after-giuseppe-giusti/

Danik 2016
03-31-2017, 11:00 PM
KvG-Impressed with her passion. She´s from the period I´m writing about, only my authors are male playwrights.The links didn´t work but I found the poem in German and these:
http://lyricstranslate.com/en/karoline-von-g%C3%BCnderode-lyrics.html
Meanwhile the family of poets Brentano keeps increasing.


Giuseppe Giusti
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Giusti (Italian English?)

https://perpwalk.wordpress.com/2010/09/13/the-snail-after-giuseppe-giusti/

tailor STATELY
04-01-2017, 06:15 AM
KvG: Nice selection... "Can love be so unlovely,/So far from me what is mine?/Can lust be so painful,/Unfaithfulness be so heartily?/Oh joy, oh pain!" Sorry my links don't work for you.
The Kiss in the Dream (1805)

author By Karoline von Günderrode
epoch Photography: Romance
Stanzas : 3, Verses : 14
Verses per verse : 1-4, 2-4, 3-6
Words : 99, sentences : 6

1 01
It has breathed a kiss to my life,
02
Gestillet of my breast deepest languishment,
03
Come, darkness! To leave me comfortably,
04
That fresh bliss sucks my lip.

2 05
In dreams, such a life was dipped,
06
So I live to look at dreams forever,
07
May despise all other pleasures
08
Because only the night so sweet balsam breathes.

3 09
The day is barren with loving delights,
10
It hurts me of his light vain pranks
11
And consume his sun's embers.
12
So let the eye of the earth shine upon you!
13
Enfold yourself in the night, she is styling your desire
14 And heals the pain as Lethes cool flood.
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Der Kuß im Traume - Karoline von Günderrode (Interpretation #169)
Interpretation

Gedicht: Karoline von Günderrode – Der Kuß im Traume

TextEpocheAutor
Der Kuß im Traume (1805)

Autor: Karoline von Günderrode
Epoche: Romantik
Strophen: 3, Verse: 14
Verse pro Strophe: 1-4, 2-4, 3-6
Wörter: 99, Sätze: 6

1 01
Es hat ein Kuß mir Leben eingehaucht,
02
Gestillet meines Busens tiefstes Schmachten,
03
Komm, Dunkelheit! mich traulich zu umnachten,
04
Daß neue Wonne meine Lippe saugt.

2 05
In Träume war solch Leben eingetaucht,
06
Drum leb' ich, ewig Träume zu betrachten,
07
Kann aller andern Freuden Glanz verachten
08
Weil nur die Nacht so süßen Balsam haucht.

3 09
Der Tag ist karg an liebesüßen Wonnen,
10
Es schmerzt mich seines Lichtes eitles Prangen
11
Und mich verzehren seiner Sonne Gluthen.
12
Drum birg dich Aug' dem Glanze irrd'scher Sonnen!
13
Hüll' dich in Nacht, sie stillet dein Verlangen
14 Und heilt den Schmerz, wie Lethes kühle Fluthen.


GG: "Abstemious" threw me, I don't think I've run across the word before. Comparing others to the snail to their detriment is amusing; his wit and satire his lance against windmills apparently effective.

George Gascoigne... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gascoigne

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/44280

Danik 2016
04-01-2017, 08:42 PM
KvG´-Tks for pasting the poems.
Some improvements on the meanings of the Google translation:
02-Gestillet= calmed or calming;
03-Come darkness surround me with nightly sweetness;
04-That my lips may suck fresh bliss/delight;
10-The day is barren of loving delights;
11-I´m hurt by it´s vain display of light;
12-And consumed by the glowing sun;
13-Therefore, my eyes. shun the splendor of earthly suns;
14-...she assuages your desire
GG-Quite an adventurous figure.

Gwendolyn MacEwen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwendolyn_MacEwen

http://canpoetry.library.utoronto.ca/macewen/poem3.htm

tailor STATELY
04-02-2017, 02:34 AM
KvG: So now we have:
1

01 It has breathed a kiss to my life,
02 calming of my breast deepest languishment,
03 Come darkness surround me with nightly sweetness
04 That my lips may suck fresh bliss

2

05 In dreams, such a life was dipped,
06 So I live to look at dreams forever,
07 May despise all other pleasures
08 Because only the night so sweet balsam breathes.

3

09 The day is barren with loving delights,
10 It hurts me of his light vain pranks
11 I´m hurt by it´s vain display of light
12 And consumed by the glowing sun;
13 Therefore, my eyes. shun the splendor of earthly suns
14 she assuages your desire

Thanks ! A tweak or two might help with the translation further, but I see the improvement.

GM: Quite accomplished... Beautiful park... Delightful poem

May Sinclair... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Sinclair

https://allpoetry.com/May-Sinclair

Danik 2016
04-02-2017, 07:32 PM
KvG: Let´s see what can be done:

The Kiss in the Dream (1805)
1
01 A kiss breathed life into me,
02 Calming my breast´s deepest yearning,
03 Come darkness! surround me with nightly intimacy,
04 That my lips may suck fresh bliss.

2
05 Immersed in dreams was this life,
06 So I live to contemplate dreams forever,
07 Despising the allure of all other pleasures
08 Because only the night breathes such sweet balsam.

3
09 The day is barren of loving delights,
10 I´m hurt by it´s vain display of light
11 And consumed by the glowing sun.
12 Therefore, my eyes, shun the splendor of earthly suns!
13 Wrap yourself in night, she assuages your desire,
14 And heals the pain, as Lethes cool flood.

MS-I liked her descriptive war poem

Sara Teasdale
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Teasdale

Marianna Alcoforando

(The Portuguese Nun—1640-1723)

The sparrows wake beneath the convent eaves;
I think I have not slept the whole night through.
But I am old; the aged scarcely know
The times they wake and sleep, for life burns down;
They breathe the calm of death before they die.
The long night ends, the day comes creeping in,
Showing the sorrows that the darkness hid,
The bended head of Christ, the blood, the thorns,
The wall's gray stains of damp, the pallet bed
Where little Sister Marta dreams of saints,
Waking with arms outstretched imploringly
That seek to stay a vision's vanishing.
I never had a vision, yet for me
Our Lady smiled while all the convent slept
One winter midnight hushed around with snow—
I thought she might be kinder than the rest,
And so I came to kneel before her feet,
Sick with love's sorrow and love's bitterness.
But when I would have made the blessed sign,
I found the water frozen in the font,
And touched but ice within the carved stone.
The saints had hid themselves away from me,
Leaving the windows black against the night;
And when I sank upon the altar steps,
Before the Virgin Mother and her Child,
The last, pale, low-burnt taper flickered out,
But in the darkness, smooth and fathomless,
Still twinkled like a star the holy lamp
That cast a dusky glow upon her face.
Then through the numbing cold peace fell on me,
Submission and the gracious gift of tears,
For when I looked, Oh! blessed miracle,
Her lips had parted and Our Lady smiled!
And then I knew that Love is worth its pain
And that my heart was richer for his sake,
Since lack of love is bitterest of all.

The day is broad awake—the first long beam
Of level sun finds Sister Marta's face,
And trembling there it lights a timid smile
Upon the lips that say so many prayers,
And have no words for hate and none for love.
But when she passes where her prayers have gone,
Will God not smile a little sadly then,
And send her back with gentle words to earth
That she may hold a child against her breast
And feel its little hands upon her hair?
We weep before the Blessed Mother's shrine,
To think upon her sorrows, but her joys
What nun could ever know a tithing of?
The precious hours she watched above His sleep
Were worth the fearful anguish of the end.
Yea, lack of love is bitterest of all;
Yet I have felt what thing it is to know
One thought forever, sleeping or awake;
To say one name whose sweetness grows so strange
That it might work a spell on those who weep;
To feel the weight of love upon my heart
So heavy that the blood can scarcely flow.
Love comes to some unlooked-for, quietly,
As when at twilight, with a soft surprise,
We see the new-born crescent in the blue;
And unto others love is planet-like,
A cold and placid gleam that wavers not,
And there are those who wait the call of love
Expectant of his coming, as we watch
To see the east grow pallid ere the moon
Lifts up her flower-like head against the night.
Love came to me as comes a cruel sun,
That on some rain-drenched morning, when the leaves
Are bowed beneath their clinging weight of drops,
Tears through the mist, and burns with fervent heat
The tender grasses and the meadow flowers;
Then suddenly the heavy clouds close in
And through the dark the thunder's muttering
Is drowned amid the dashing of the rain.

But I have seen my day grow calm again.
The sun sets slowly on a peaceful world,
And sheds a quiet light across the fields.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/400

tailor STATELY
04-03-2017, 08:17 PM
KvG: I Like what you have done with her poem. My further interpretation:

The Kiss in the Dream (1805)/Interpretation

1
01 A kiss breathed life into me,
02 Calming my breast's deepest yearning,
03 Come darkness! enfold me with your nightly embrace,
04 That my lips may inhale fresh bliss.

2
05 Obsession with dreams was my life,
06 So I lived to contemplate dreams forever,
07 Despising the allure of all other pleasures
08 Because only night breathes such sweet balsam.

3
09 The day is barren of loving delights,
10 I´m hurt by it´s bright vain display
11 And consumed by the fiery sun.
12 Therefore, my eyes, shun the splendor of earthly flame !
13 Envelope yourself in the night, she assuages your desire,
14 And heals the pain, as Lethe's cool waters.

ST: (revisited)I enjoyed these verses:
And when I sank upon the altar steps,
Before the Virgin Mother and her Child,
The last, pale, low-burnt taper flickered out,
But in the darkness, smooth and fathomless,
Still twinkled like a star the holy lamp
That cast a dusky glow upon her face.
Then through the numbing cold peace fell on me,
Submission and the gracious gift of tears,
For when I looked, Oh! blessed miracle,
Her lips had parted and Our Lady smiled!
And then I knew that Love is worth its pain
And that my heart was richer for his sake,
Since lack of love is bitterest of all.

Mariana Alcoforado must be the poem's namesake (last name slightly different)... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Alcoforado

Thomas Lodge... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Lodge

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-earth-late-chok-d-with-showers/

Danik 2016
04-03-2017, 10:29 PM
KvG: I liked all your improvements, the poem at last "sounds" natural in English. I am only in doubt about the word "Obsession"(line 5). I haven´t the feeling that for her being immersed in dreams was perceived as an obsession. And it is a word of later times.

TL-Why he came to Brazil probably to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilhabela
Inspired Shakespeare, poem somewhat sad though

Laura Cardoso
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Cardoso

https://www.google.com.br/search?q=laura+cardoso-english&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjTq7Wb4InTAhVMIZAKHYmwCbEQ_AUICSgC&biw=800&bih=450#imgrc=7HBrLmiquchXPM:

tailor STATELY
04-04-2017, 12:30 AM
KvG: re: obsession - will give it further thought. TL in Brasil, looting ? or enjoying the view ? LC: One of your favorite soap stars ?

Charles Keating... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Keating_(actor) I used to watch the soaps with my wife once in a while when there was a 24/7 Soap Opera channel that she liked.

Danik 2016
04-04-2017, 05:10 PM
ST-You are right,tS,the name is "Marianna Alcoforado" I don´t know who made the mistake. Fictional or not, The Portuguese Letters are considered a literary work.
TL in Brazil possibly loothing and fighting.
LC-Played also in films and the theater.Was very ill recently, but then she finished the soapy with her 89 years.
CK-!he Royal Shakespeare Company says all

Keanna Reeves
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keanna_Reeves

tailor STATELY
04-04-2017, 07:11 PM
KR: Keanu Reeves derivation/clever.

Ruben Gonzaga... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gNICWKE5Ho

I'm not sure, but I think this is like "The Hunger Games".

Danik 2016
04-04-2017, 08:30 PM
Here in Brazil it is very silly. But yes they have to eliminate each other to get the prize money.

Greta Garbo (born on the same day as I)
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greta_Garbo

tailor STATELY
04-05-2017, 04:23 AM
GG: Wonderfully complex. Noticed the pt. and en. versions of wikipedia are a bit different in content. You're lucky, I share my birthday with Mickey Mouse... Yours is also a day before my daughter's birthday.

George O'Brien... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_O%27Brien_(actor)

Danik 2016
04-05-2017, 06:34 AM
GG:Lol! Do you read Portuguese, now? But you are right, they are quite different. I think it depends who writes them, wikipedia is a curious territory. Some of these versions are just translations of an original in other languages.
Anyway sharing a birthday with Mickey seems to be more fun than with GG.

G 0'Brian-Interesting career. Must have seen him in one of these old films

Brigitte Bardot:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigitte_Bardot
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigitte_Bardot

tailor STATELY
04-05-2017, 03:50 PM
(No, no Portuguese language ability... page translations help a little, though in my attempt for BB "his" and "her" are annoyingly interchanged in another pt. page, and the other slip ups that translation usually brings.) BB: A tour de force that I hadn't fully realized before: actress/singer/writer/activist. Strong ties to Brazil as well.

Barbra Streisand... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbra_Streisand

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/8176696/Barbra-Streisand-My-Passion-for-Design.html

Danik 2016
04-05-2017, 08:04 PM
It´s because in Pt. it´s the same pronoum.The context must be very clear or you get confused even in Portuguese.
BS-I used to like her films. But it seems she turned into a Madam now.But still something of a girl that won in the lotery

Sidney Poitier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Poitier
(the Portuguese version is a stump)

tailor STATELY
04-06-2017, 08:30 PM
SP: The last movie I saw him in was "The Jackal" many years ago. Very durable actor and quite accomplished.

Peter Ustinov... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Ustinov

Danik 2016
04-06-2017, 10:17 PM
PU-I knew he was a writer only

Uma Thurman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uma_Thurman

tailor STATELY
04-07-2017, 02:14 AM
UT: I've seen a few of her films.

Toni Morrison... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toni_Morrison

https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliapugachevsky/impossibly-beautiful-toni-morrison-quotes?utm_term=.fb6deMWj6#.ndkzn3mw4

Danik 2016
04-07-2017, 04:22 PM
TM: Interesting writer. I want to read at least "A pair of blue eyes"

Machado de Assis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machado_de_Assis
http://www.antoniomiranda.com.br/poesia_ingles/machado_de_assis.html

tailor STATELY
04-07-2017, 06:13 PM
MdA: "He avoided discussing politics." - a rarity. High praise from his patrons. I loved "Vicious Circle" an Italian sonnet (abba abba cdc cdc); the other sonnet form has an interesting sestet (ccc ccc)

Anne Lynch Botta... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Lynch_Botta

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/a-thought-by-the-sea-shore/

Danik 2016
04-08-2017, 12:42 PM
MdA-More considered for his prose than his poetry. Maybe the most political Brazilian author, but not in an obvious way. Didn´t like the translations of the poems so well.
ALB-Beatiful poem. Life reminds me a bit of the Brazilian Júlia Lopes de Almeida at the turn of the 19-20C.

Benjamin Zephaniah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Zephaniah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwz4K_qxNz8
http://benjaminzephaniah.com/

tailor STATELY
04-09-2017, 03:40 AM
BZ: Enjoyed his interesting performance poem; a strong Jamaican voice. His views on drugs are intriguing.

Zeb-un-Nisa... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeb-un-Nisa

https://archive.org/stream/diwanofzebunniss00zebuuoft/diwanofzebunniss00zebuuoft_djvu.txt

Danik 2016
04-09-2017, 06:18 PM
Zeb-un-Nisa-A sad end of life as so many of these woman poets.Interesting verses. I wonder if they helped to inspire Goethe´s ''The West-Eastern Divan"
http://www.archive.org/stream/westeasterndivan00goetuoft/westeasterndivan00goetuoft_djvu.txt

Nikos Kavvadias
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikos_Kavvadias
http://chain.eu/?m3=27253

tailor STATELY
04-10-2017, 05:35 AM
Goethe: Nizami... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nizami_Ganjavi ?...
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe writes:
A gentle, highly gifted spirit, who, when Ferdowsi had completed the collected heroic traditions, chose for the material of his poems the sweetest encounters of the deepest love. Majnun and Layli, Khosrow and Shirin, lovers he presented; meant for one another by premonition, destiny, nature, habit, inclination, passion staunchly devoted to each other; but divided by mad ideas, stubbornness, chance, necessity, and force, then miraculously reunited, yet in the end again in one way or another torn apart and separated from each other.

NK: I liked "Mal Du Depart". Would that I could have been to sea.

Kathleen Raine... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Raine

https://f0rsythia.wordpress.com/2015/05/27/passion-kathleen-raine/

Danik 2016
04-10-2017, 10:20 PM
Nizami and Goethe interesting find. Also of interest:"Nezami's story of Layla and Majnun also provided the namesake for a hit single by Eric Clapton, also called 'Layla'."
KR-Unquiet life, Beautiful poem; The restless feeling of love changing into a epiphany of belonging to the whole universe.

Ruth Padel

http://www.ruthpadel.com/

tailor STATELY
04-11-2017, 05:10 AM
RP: "when everything hidden
comes alive... the mice you weren’t aware of in the wall,
and your own unspoken longing to be given
something more by life."

Philip O' Connor... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_O%27Connor


POEM
The clock ticks on ; the wild-fingered hand
of a dark wet evening strokes the face
and combs the hair out-of-doors,
and traffic and expressions are woof and warp
of a cruelly-clear understanding. The people drag a train of
ancient monsters,
cumbrous shadows with banners
of factory hours and weekly wage. Sirens of contempt
whistle in the incidental phrase
and the metre of a force prepared to impel a change
gives words the white outline of chairs seen in fainting,
here we have a room of drastic furniture waiting the remover's
approach
(and he comes solemn as two girders
in a bridge, intent as the dead timber floating under it.)
No foaming running cloud of the night
can disengage hysteria locked in the pounding heart
slowly rejoining the serene wide-open eye.
p. O'CONNOR... from pg 5 of 24 http://www.modernistmagazines.com/media/pdf/276.pdf

Danik 2016
04-11-2017, 11:10 PM
Philip O' Connor- A surrealistic life! I liked the poem. Must have been difficult to find. I searched for more.

Oliverio Girondo

http://pippoetry.blogspot.com.br/2008/12/oliverio-girondo.html

tailor STATELY
04-12-2017, 03:06 AM
OG: I see flashes of JB in some of his poems.

George Eliot... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Eliot

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/roses/

yeucntt2013
04-12-2017, 08:51 AM
thank a lot :D :D

Danik 2016
04-12-2017, 07:59 PM
OG-JB?
GE-I read some of her novels. Didn´t know she wrote poetry as well.

Emilia Lanier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilia_Lanier


"When loe these Monsters did not shame to tell,
His name, they sought, and found, yet could not know
Iesus of Nazareth, at whose feet they fell,
When Heauenly Wisdome did descend so lowe
To speake to them: they knew they did not well,
Their great amazement made them backeward goe:
Nay, though he said vnto them, I am he,
They could not know him, whom their eyes did see.

How blinde were they could not discerne the Light!
How dull! if not to vnderstand the truth,
How weake! if meekenesse overcame their might;
How stony hearted, if not mov'd to ruth:
How void of Pitie, and how full of Spight,
Gainst him that was the Lord of Light and Truth:
Here insolent Boldnesse checkt by Love and Grace,
Retires, and falls before our Makers face.

For when he spake to this accursed crew,
And mildely made them know that it was he:
Presents himselfe, that they might take a view;
And what they doubted they might cleerely see;
Nay more, to re-assure that it was true,
He said: I say vnto you, I am hee.
If him they sought, he's willing to obay,
Onely desires the rest might goe their way.

Thus with a heart prepared to endure
The greatest wrongs Impietie could devise,
He was content to stoope vnto their Lure,
Although his Greatnesse might doe otherwise:
Here Grace was seised on with hands impure,
And Virtue now must be supprest by Vice,
Pure Innocencie made a prey to Sinne,
Thus did his Torments and our Ioyes beginne."
Excerpt from Salve Deus Rex Iudæorum http://www.luminarium.org/renascence-editions/lanyer1.html

tailor STATELY
04-13-2017, 04:24 AM
:) EL: "How blinde were they could not discerne the Light!" ! Way ahead of her time. "Emilia Bassano Lanier has been named by the Shakespeare Authorship Trust as one of twelve leading candidates for authorship of the plays and poems attributed to William Shakespeare"... whoa. "Salve Deus Rex Judaeorum" (Hail, God, King of the Jews) is amazing, though a slight tedious when sorting out j's with i's, and u's with v's (and vis-à-vis); I'm grateful that s's were not made into stylized f's. Mingling her acquaintances with the story of Christ something I find unique.

Lucy Maud Montgomery... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Maud_Montgomery

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/a-shore-twilight/

Danik 2016
04-14-2017, 12:21 AM
EL- At least this text is much easier to read the another one from this period which you put into modern English. She the author of Shakespeare plays...I dunno. Their perspective is so male, when one looks at the jokes for example.
LMM-Seeking vainly for fullfilment.The poem in contrast is peacefull

Mary Robinson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Robinson_(poet)

https://archive.org/details/poeticalworksla00robigoog

tailor STATELY
04-14-2017, 05:22 AM
MR: "The English Sappho"; sad her many betrayals. pg.196 Sonnet to Evening and here: https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/sonnet-to-evening/
SWEET BALMY HOUR! *dear to the pensive mind,
Oft have I watch'd thy dark and weeping shade,
Oft have I hail'd thee in the dewy glade,
And drop'd a tear of SYMPATHY refin'd.

When humming bees, hid in their golden bow'rs,
Sip the pure nectar of MAY'S blushing rose,
Or faint with noon-day toils, their limbs repose,
In Baths of Essence stol'n from sunny flow'rs.

Oft do I seek thy shade dear with'ring tree,
Sad emblem of my OWN disast'rous state;
Doom'd in the spring of life, alas ! like THEE
To fade, and droop beneath the frowns of FATE;
Like THEE, may Heaven to ME the meed bestow,
To shelter Sorrow's tear, and sooth THE CHILD OF WOE.
- Mary Darby Robinson

Ron Allen... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Allen_(playwright)

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/she-loves-butterflies/

Danik 2016
04-14-2017, 11:09 PM
MR-Nice poem. I should have looked for her in Poem Hunter!
RA-Lovely poem


Anacreon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacreon

http://www.blackcatpoems.com/a/the_grasshopper.html

tailor STATELY
04-15-2017, 06:53 AM
A: Party animal. "The US national anthem, "The Star Spangled Banner", is set to the tune of "The Anacreontic Song""... truly ? Incredible the influence he has had throughout the ages. Cute poem with a nice western couplet rhyme scheme with enjambment preceding S2.

Going with "n", the last letter of A's name... Nicholas Rowe... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Rowe_(writer)

https://www.poetrynook.com/poem/song-ah-willow

Danik 2016
04-15-2017, 10:12 PM
A:Astonished that the music of this bachian character was used for "The Star Spangled Banner".
NR-I liked the flow of the poem.

Robert Rendall
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Rendall


ANGLE OF VISION

By Robert Rendall

But John, have you seen the world, said he,

Trains and tramcars and sixty-seaters,

Cities in lands across the sea -

Giotto's tower and the dome of St Peter's?

No, but I've seen the arc of the earth,

From the Birsay shore, like the edge of a planet,

And the lifeboat plunge through the Pentland Firth

To a cosmic tide with the men that man it.

tailor STATELY
04-16-2017, 02:03 AM
RR: Poet and naturalist... a wonderful combination. An Orkney man through and through as the poem above depicts.

Rose Ausländer... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Ausländer

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/my-nightingale-2/

Danik 2016
04-16-2017, 09:16 PM
RA-Another survivor, a very troubled life. A beautiful poem, she must have suffered a lot with the long illness of her mother. A poetry of earch of identity, even linguistic identity:
http://www.lyrikline.org/en/poems/mutter-sprache-551

Ana Aguilar-Amat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Aguilar-Amat

http://www.lyrikline.org/en/poems/coneixer-4889

tailor STATELY
04-17-2017, 04:39 AM
RA: Enjoyed the English translation of "Mother Tongue"... seems close in translation. AAA: Not familiar with Catalan... hoping the translation is true.

Audre Lorde... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audre_Lorde

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/42584

Danik 2016
04-17-2017, 10:51 PM
AAA-Don´t know Catalan either. But I liked some of the translations of this site.
AL- Impressive biography. The last stanza of the poem is intriguing.

Lao-Tze
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laozi


Simplicity without a name
Is free from all external aim.
With no desire, at rest and still,
All things go right as of their will.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/216/216-h/216-h.htm

tailor STATELY
04-18-2017, 05:04 AM
LT: "Music in the soul can be heard by the universe." LT's existence may be historically ambiguous but the tradition of teachings attributed to him transcend.
Simplicity without a name
Is free from all external aim.
With no desire, at rest and still,
All things go right as of their will.


Thomas Campion... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Campion

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/43868

Danik 2016
04-18-2017, 08:25 PM
LT-I like the idea of various Lao-Tzes.
TC-Poem sounds modern for the Renaissance.
Racoons :D

Charles Baudelaire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Baudelaire

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/music-181/

tailor STATELY
04-18-2017, 08:47 PM
Fun w/ soapies... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoZ2PvIkSvA

CB: Breaker of molds. Irreverent. Genius. "Music" - Incredible poem: I might imagine a greater passion in his mother tongue.

Bryher... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryher

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/browse?contentId=16567

Danik 2016
04-19-2017, 09:52 PM
Bryher: A breaker of behavioral molds. Anguish and tenderness in her poem.

Berenice Abbott
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berenice_Abbott

http://www.commercegraphics.com/ba_portraits.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20040202101719/http://www.nypl.org:80/research/chss/spe/art/photo/abbottex/abbott.html

tailor STATELY
04-20-2017, 06:12 AM
BA: Love her photography of New York.
I had my own photography dark room/enlarger/chem setup (I still remember the smell (yuk)) circa '72-'73 in my apartment...
gave it up when I needed a roommate. I still have my Konica C35 camera (haven't used it since really) and my Kodak Brownie (very dusty !!) but no prints survive (sigh).
I like her portraits the best; so intimate... James Joyce looks like he aged a decade in two years. "The world doesn't like independent women, why, I don't know, but I don't care."... delightful. And a poem ! http://brooklynrail.org/2015/11/verbatim/birthdays-a-poem-by-berenice-abbott

Arthur William Symons... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Symons

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/detail/13706

Danik 2016
04-20-2017, 08:30 PM
BA-Nice poem, Good find, I searched a bit, but didn´t find anything.
I love photography too(hate selfies though) but I am a bad photographer. Also kept the old cameras for a long time. I have a Casio now, but still have to learn how to use it ideally.
AWS-Nice poem, but unable to detect influence of CB

Sándor Tatár

http://www.lyrikline.org/en/poems/kis-filozofikus-12630

tailor STATELY
04-21-2017, 07:29 AM
ST: Hard to find more information on him in English. I would have called the poem "Food For Thought" in its English form. Not knowing the context allowed me to think back on the story my Mother told me upon her arrival from England to NY, uprooted as a teen shortly after WWII, taken away from her Father... faced with, for her, what was an excess of food at a buffet after settling in her hotel with her Mother before leaving for Arizona for a life with her new step-father... The last lines come alive for me: " – You feel, and feel it with growing certainty, that you would rather be at home. The only trouble is you were told (not leaving the tiniest room for doubt) that you are at home."

Thylias Moss... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thylias_Moss

http://www.aaregistry.org/poetry/view/landscape-saxophone-thylias-moss

Danik 2016
04-21-2017, 05:14 PM
ST: Didn´t find anything either. The bios of living poets often resemble CV's. No personal info.
But as you say yourself, once a poem is released it belongs to the reader. Your beautiful association gave a deeper meaning to a poem, which, at first sight described the hustle around a holyday buffet. I didn´t find any personal information about the poet, but I found this:https://fee.org/articles/a-peek-behind-the-old-iron-curtain/.
Whatever his current position in life, this poet certainly hasn´t known affluence during his childhood in communist Hungary. In this sense he may be as much a war child as your mother. Who knows what kind of memories are behind this poems?
I found your title very suggestive!

TM:Another fighter. Much solitude. Interesting imags but found the last line of the poem a bit lame.

Marianne Moore
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Moore
https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/silence/

tailor STATELY
04-22-2017, 07:11 AM
MM: " she hopes for poets who can produce "imaginary gardens with real toads in them" ".
I came across this quote nearly 6-years after I had written "Beneath the Dogwoods of May" (5/1/2010 r. 1/29/2011) and wrote
an addendum to the fact on 3/8/2016 on my webpage... so I guess I fulfilled her hope in my case
"... The deepest feeling always shows itself in silence; not in silence, but restraint." - so true.

Mark Granier... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Granier

http://markgranier.blogspot.com

http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/profile/73022/

Danik 2016
04-22-2017, 12:15 PM
MG-Enjoyed his photos. Interesting perspective. As Nord Star says, by taking pictures the art lies in the framing.
Good poem. Liked it not only for artistically reasons.

Gilad Meiri

http://www.poetryinternationalweb.net/pi/site/poet/item/15852/12/Gilad-Meiri

http://www.poetryinternationalweb.net/pi/site/poem/item/15855/auto/0/0/Gilad-Meiri/JERUSALEM-2004


http://www.lyrikline.org/en/poems/12864

tailor STATELY
04-23-2017, 02:24 AM
GM: His poetry using nano-poetics is interesting. The poem JERUSALEM 2004 is a mingling of the here and now with antiquity, while The House is Upside Down is a whimsical musing over untidiness.

Matteo Maria Boiardo... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matteo_Maria_Boiardo

http://newsletter.tarotstudies.org/2007/12/boiardo-poem/

Danik 2016
04-23-2017, 09:11 PM
MMB-Impressive life (first governor in this collection). Very interesting the relation of the poem to the Tarot Cards. I found this link where one can see the early development of some of the cards:http://trionfi.com/0/j/d/boiardo/

Barbara Holland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Holland

SCAVENGER
AM A WANDERER with dirty feet
peering through the ventails of the visored faces,
sniffing the breaths of open doors,
waiting beneath the ledges of the careless windows
for sounds that might spill over
for my claws to catch
and crack for the extraction of a swarm of things,
large-eyed and catfoot careful
of the nerves they walk.
I am a brokerage for shares in storms;
the mendicant, more bowl than ego, hollowed up
to lurch of moon, a dagger catcher stopping Leonids.
I am the prowler of the noon-white streets,
the closet audience of somnambulists, the ear
that bites, the eye that masticates, the nerve that sings.
I am the wanderer with dirty feet
who wipes worlds from existence by removing dirt.
https://www.poetspress.org/Holland_Collected_Poems1.pdf

tailor STATELY
04-24-2017, 10:43 PM
Tarot: Interesting article. BH: Quite the character; an eye for the dark side at times... more - https://www.poetspress.org/fp_holland.shtml

Henry S. Taylor... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_S._Taylor

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/54134

Danik 2016
04-25-2017, 10:55 PM
HST-Liked the poem very much. But if it was mine I would rename it "The way it almost always is".

Thelonious Monk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelonious_Monk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Di_mswqhLU

tailor STATELY
04-26-2017, 08:15 AM
TM: Like Hermeto Paschoal he played with Miles Davis (whom we will explore next). Only second (though monumentally distant to Duke Ellington who is first) as the most-recorded jazz composer. His performance showed his single-mindedness and rapid-fired precision while playing the ivories; a master of dissonance.

Miles Davis... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Davis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eza4EguCb7o

Danik 2016
04-26-2017, 07:52 PM
MD-Listening to his nostalgic music while completing the trio.


Duke Ellington
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkLBSLxo5LE

http://www.redhotjazz.com/duke.html

tailor STATELY
04-27-2017, 05:18 AM
DE: Timeless.

Ella Fitzgerald... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ella_Fitzgerald

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEaDj6TXiQQ

Danik 2016
04-27-2017, 10:47 PM
Love her! A favourite:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2bigf337aU

Friedrich von Schiller
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Schiller

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/hymn-to-joy/

tailor STATELY
04-28-2017, 10:58 AM
EF: "Summertime" - Some interesting contrasts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYUqbnk7tCY and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn5TNqjuHiU and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkKo-jXl2CQ FvS: "In September 2008, Schiller was voted by the audience of the TV channel Arte as the second most important playwright in Europe after William Shakespeare."... Most impressive. LvB had it easy setting FvS's poem to music, it jumps right out at you.

Stevie Smith... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevie_Smith

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/46843

Danik 2016
04-28-2017, 10:41 PM
Interesting interpretations, there are several more. Found another one I liked a lot:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVNiubIXHf4.


Simon Armitage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Armitage

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/about-his-person/

tailor STATELY
04-29-2017, 04:45 AM
Summertime/SV: Sultry with a nice vibrato. SA: A very accomplished contemporary poet. "no gold or silver,/but crowning one finger/a ring of white unweathered skin."... An interesting tension set up in the poem.

Akiko Yosano... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akiko_Yosano

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/river-of-stars/

Danik 2016
04-29-2017, 09:58 PM
AY-Poetry and 13 children. Poem has a nostalgic quality.

Yevgeny Yevtushenko

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Yevtushenko

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/eight-year-old-poet/

tailor STATELY
04-29-2017, 11:28 PM
YY: Very recently passed on. Wikipedia: "In 1957, he was expelled from the Literary Institute for "individualism"/"Brodsky repeatedly criticised Yevtushenko for what he perceived as his "conformism""... guy can't catch a break. Fortunate not to have been exiled or otherwise from the Soviet State. "All of us are secret children, /and we’ll never grow up completely"

Yves Bonnefoy... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yves_Bonnefoy

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-museum-3/

Danik 2016
04-30-2017, 07:20 PM
YB-"The Museum"- Interesting parallel between the raging tempest and the content of the pictures.


Beverley Bie Brahic
http://www.beverleybiebrahic.com/

https://fromtroublesofthisw orld.wordpress.com/tag/beverley-bie-brahic/

tailor STATELY
05-02-2017, 10:42 AM
BBB: Fixed poetry link... https://fromtroublesofthisworld.wordpress.com/tag/beverley-bie-brahic/ Beautiful use of language in BBB's poem "Lacemakers" - "Through high windows wintry sun seeps in/And floods the six-tiered polychrome Apocalypse,/This Sunday’s text in comic strip.", and in BBB's translated excerpt of Yves Bonnefoy's poem "The Anchor’s Long Chain" - "Someone saw it snag a church door,/Catch the arch where our hope fades,/And a sailor shinned down/The taut, jerking chain,/And freed his heaven from our night."

Burns Singer... http://www.poetrymagazines.org.uk/magazine/record.asp?id=6386

http://www.the-tls.co.uk/tag/burns-singer/

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2001/jul/14/poetry.features

Danik 2016
05-02-2017, 10:14 PM
BBB-Tks. for fixing the link.
BS-Interesting personality with his anguished quest for identity:"I am in my
Survival’s hands. I am my shadow’s theme."


Sorley MacLean

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorley_MacLean

http://www.sorleymaclean.org/english/poetry.htm#

tailor STATELY
05-03-2017, 03:20 AM
SL: Ah, SL's poem Hallaig reminds me of another poet hallaig http://www.online-literature.com/forums/member.php?78049-hallaig who used to grace LitNet for a short time with great influence. Highlands, ultra-left politics, and love poetry... interesting combination. "The Cry of Europe" is intriguing: Is the "Girl of the yellow, heavy-yellow, gold-yellow hair" representative of the Aryan Nazi ideal in that time of chaos ?

Meera Bai / Mirabai... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meera

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/your-look-of-light/

Danik 2016
05-03-2017, 07:57 PM
SL-Yes. Hitler wanted to create the blond supremacy by eliminating those that didn´t belong to it. Before becoming the Nazi ideal, it was the prototype of the German woman as Gretchen in the Faust by Goethe. Looked up Hallaig´s poems, not bad. And maybe he spoke Gaelic.

Meera Bai- short lyrical and to the point:"Who but you/can see in the dark/of a heart? "

Bernard Barton

https://mypoeticside.com/poets/bernard-barton-poems#block-bio

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-sea-74/

tailor STATELY
05-04-2017, 03:58 AM
BB: A quiet part-time poet who wrote hymns... I like him. "The Sea"- "BEAUTIFUL, sublime, and glorious;/Mild, majestic, foaming, free, -/Over time itself victorious,/Image of eternity!"

Barbara Guest... https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poets/detail/barbara-guest

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/53132

Danik 2016
05-04-2017, 10:50 PM
BB-I thought maybe you know some of his hymns.
BG-Interesting influences. Noticed the modernist touch in her poem.

Gavin Ewart
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Ewart

http://www.poetryarchive.org/poem/14-year-old-convalescent-cat-winter

tailor STATELY
05-05-2017, 05:56 AM
BB: Looked for some hymns he wrote I might know with no luck... http://hymnary.org/person/Barton_B
GE: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Gavin_Ewart ... reminiscent of Biggus in some poems. Cute poem, I have similar hopes for my aged Taffy Doodles.

Enheduanna... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enheduanna

http://classicalarthistory.weebly.com/library/enheduanna-poems

Danik 2016
05-05-2017, 10:36 PM
GE: I hope Mr.Taffy Doodles will still enjoy several summers surrounded by his loving family.
E:Phantastic! Much earlier than Homer, a woman poet, writing about gods and wars.

Eavan Boland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eavan_Boland
https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/ode-to-suburbia/

tailor STATELY
05-06-2017, 06:15 AM
EB: Accomplished Irish poet sharing her time at Stanford and Dublin. Her language and structure in the poem is incredible.

Bruce Andrews... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Andrews

http://www.ubu.com/contemp/andrews/andrews3.html

Danik 2016
05-06-2017, 09:59 PM
BA-His poem reminds me of concrete poetry:
http://www.softschools.com/examples/grammar/concrete_poem_examples/400/

Anna Laetitia Barbauld

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Laetitia_Barbauld

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/to-a-dog/

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/pastoral-hymn/

tailor STATELY
05-07-2017, 01:11 AM
BA: concrete poems/interesting - I wrote a poem using this form, though not readily discernible, some time ago (has it really been almost 4-years since then ?)... http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?23675-Picture-Poetry-Contest-(-continued-)/page93 .
ALB: An enlightened feminist of modest privilege in a time of social change who outlived and endured a husband who became insane; critiqued by those with lesser sensibilities, sadly Samuel Taylor Coleridge and William Wordsworth among them, resulting in a self-denial of creativity... too sad. Tender poetry.

Barrie Phillip Nichol... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrie_Phillip_Nichol

https://web.cs.dal.ca/~johnston/poetry/dearcaptain.html

Danik 2016
05-13-2017, 01:53 PM
BPN- Interesting poet. I liked his humorous, irreverent poem. Found this, don´t know if it´s good, no earphones at hand: http://citizenfreak.com/titles/268524-bpnichol-barry-phillip-nichol-motherlove


Ndre_Mjeda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ndre_Mjeda
https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-old-deer/

tailor STATELY
05-13-2017, 05:15 PM
BPN... will listen later for the bulk of his sound poetry (buffering problems due to capped bandwidth); "Dada Lama" interesting... appropriate for Mother's Day. NM... Poet, activist, teacher, translator. Interesting nature poem with a powerful ending.

Mei-mei Berssenbrugge... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mei-mei_Berssenbrugge

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/58186

Danik 2016
05-13-2017, 09:50 PM
BPN-Listened to the poems. Very minimalistic, more like sound experiments.

Mei-mei-Interesting multicultural background. Very original poem, delicate images, at times a bit rational


Billy Edd Wheler
http://www.billyeddwheeler.com

http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/billy_edd_wheeler/ode_to_the_little_brown_shack_out_back.html

tailor STATELY
05-14-2017, 02:27 AM
BEW... lol, an ode to an outhouse. Interesting person, I hadn't heard about him before.

Wislawa Szymborska... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisława_Szymborska

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/1996/szymborska-poems-5_en.html

Danik 2016
05-14-2017, 07:10 PM
WS-Born four days before my mother. Loved her subtle poem entwining the ironic narrative about the doe with the narrative about the making of the poem. Found another poem by her:
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/52955



Samuel Johnson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Johnson

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/winter-146/

tailor STATELY
05-16-2017, 08:44 AM
WS... "After every war/ someone has to clean up." Good premise for a poem. SJ: Truly a great literary figure. A passionate little poem.

Jane Wiseman Holt... https://www.librarything.com/author/wisemanjane

https://fromtroublesofthisworld.wordpress.com/tag/jane-wiseman-holt/

Danik 2016
05-16-2017, 08:06 PM
JWH-Interesting the substantives written with capital letters like in German


Hermann Hesse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Hesse

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-poet/

tailor STATELY
05-17-2017, 12:39 AM
I must say I haven't read any of Hesse's works, but plan to rectify that omission. The poet written as ephemeral yet the observer of all.

Harriet Elizabeth Prescott Spofford... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Elizabeth_Prescott_Spofford

https://college.cengage.com/english/lauter/heath/4e/students/author_pages/late_nineteenth/spofford_ha.html

From: https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=-XYYAAAAYAAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA5&dq=Harriet+Prescott+poems&ots=Uu2xNrTXvm&sig=-ErXLeEoVhLhcNj4H5Bk2CiEtOI#v=onepage&q=Harriet%20Prescott%20poems&f=false


TWO ANTIQUES

Falling all about her there
And as fire bursts from char
Each eye kindle like a star
When her long lost lamp I bring
There s such magic in the thing
From her ashes scattered far
From her thousand years away
She comes back to me to day
Just a little earthen lamp
Here the oil swam here the wick
Here the flame went flaring back
If the bearer turned her quick
Turned her in the shadowy space
Saw the flash of one swart face
Saw the eager arms and hark
Sprang aside and let the dark
Blow her out and drown the spark

II THE TEAR BOTTLE

HERE a sudden flush of flame
And here a sheet of azure glory
Blood red depth and lucid green
Of seas a stooping storm makes hoary
Such a blaze sheds no sweet queen
Jewel eyed by gems attended
No imperial pearl so fair
No fire opal half so splendid

siobankelley
05-17-2017, 01:26 AM
How do you play? What are the rules?

tailor STATELY
05-17-2017, 01:39 AM
Howdy siobankelley !

The rules are on the first posting of this thread here: http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?2379-name-association-game

The rules haven't always been adhered to (we've gone off on tangents on occasion), but we try. Lately we've been using literary figures and citing references and linking/citing their works.

Example: My last writer's name (Harriet Elizabeth Prescott Spofford) started with the letter of the last name of the previous writer (Hesse) so the next name should start with "S" from Spofford

Join the fun !

Danik 2016
05-17-2017, 09:44 PM
HS-Another one that was overlooked. I became interested in her short stories. A pity this thread is not in alphabetical order. Sometimes one wants to get back to one or other of these poets.


Siegfried Sassoon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siegfried_Sassoon

http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/siegfried_sassoon/poems/16833

tailor STATELY
05-18-2017, 05:01 AM
I've been copying and pasting this game in a word processing program since I started playing so I could easily search to make sure I didn't duplicate a name, to the best of my ability, using Control-F (find) and have used it to go back to check notes. It goes back to May last year and, of course, is in linear time, but notes/citations weren't added till later, and then haphazardly so at first. Currently 254 pages using Times New Roman 12pt (current through 5/6/2017) with lots of white space - yet with lots of superfluousness already removed... but more could be done to clean it up... and then alphabetized... hmmm, a possibility. Just experimented with emailing myself the document in gmail which activates the links and it surprisingly survived... a lot faster in formating... food for thought.

SS: Very complex character. A warrior pacifist. Love his use of language in his poem.

Susanna Blamire... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanna_Blamire

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/moonlight-81/

Danik 2016
05-18-2017, 11:00 PM
Very happy surprise to know that you have made a well cared for copy of the "anthology".You must have worked hard on it. The important thing is that you still will have access to it if something happens to the main one. But I don´t know about alphabetical order. There was a function on the older versions of Word mainly for bibliographical listing. But of late I list them manually, because some times I don´t find it in the new versions. I don´t think it would work with the format of the posts and doing 254 pages! manually would be a very tough job. I intend to copy it too, when the rush of post-doc is over.(July).

SB-Liked her very much. A lonely but powerful Capricorn lady. Her most famous poem:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olz3ul3Brvw and the
lyrics:https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/and-ye-shall-walk-in-silk-attire/


Brion Gysin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brion_Gysin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0F0Tcqn7eE

tailor STATELY
05-19-2017, 03:41 AM
SB: Beautiful rendition of the poem in song. BG: I hadn't heard of cut-ups as shown in the video before. I've used Dada generators and deconstructed poems and quotes using anagram generators, as well as magnetic poetry and the now lost poetry in motion java application (at least I can't find it), but this method is cleaner, quicker, and less taxing... and no less creative to my mind. I admire his innovative style.

Grace Nichols... https://literature.britishcouncil.org/writer/grace-nichols

https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2009/dec/14/poem-of-the-week-grace-nichols

A note on Ekphrasis as mentioned in the above article and poems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekphrasis

Danik 2016
05-19-2017, 08:23 PM
GN-Very interesting Ekphrasis. The poem confers the painting a life of its own. And the Montage of the parts makes the poem seem complete.In fact the cut-up seems to be a type of Montage. I don´t know these other deconstruction methods you mention.

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/cat-rap/


Nikola Vaptsarov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Vaptsarov

http://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/rdv6n1/vaptsarov.htm

tailor STATELY
05-20-2017, 07:40 AM
lol: Cat Rap. NV: Part time poet, machinist, activist; murdered by the same country that now reveres him; his worker poetry raw and simply written:" ‘History, will you mention us / In your faded scroll?’".

Veronica Forrest-Thomson... https://www.poetryfoundation.org/features/articles/detail/142033

http://jacketmagazine.com/20/vft-5p.html

Danik 2016
05-20-2017, 10:47 PM
VFT-Very interesting poetry in its language consciousness. I specially enjoyed the essay about Veronica




Ferdowsi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdowsi

http://www.blackcatpoems.com/f/how_shirwi_ascended_the_throne.html

tailor STATELY
05-21-2017, 02:44 AM
F: "The Lord of the Word". Wrote the Persian epic. Could have possibly been the most rewarded poet of all recorded time... pity. I'm still dissecting the poem to get the full import behind it using colored highlights and shadings, etc. to unentangle my mind.

Felicia Hemans... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felicia_Hemans

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/invocation-to-the-fairies/

Danik 2016
05-21-2017, 06:50 PM
F-The poem is very long but he seemed a kind of Persian Homer to me.
FH-I liked her, the way she paints the scenes
https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-adopted-child/

Henry W. Longfellow
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Wadsworth_Longfellow

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/by-the-fireside-the-singers/

tailor STATELY
05-23-2017, 07:19 AM
HWL: A most venerable American poet. "And he whose ear is tuned aright/Will hear no discord in the three,/But the most perfect harmony.'" very profound.

Letitia Elizabeth Landon... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letitia_Elizabeth_Landon

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-sea-shore/

Danik 2016
05-23-2017, 09:57 PM
LEL-Liked the poem, the several associations with the sea.

Luis de Góngora

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_de_Góngora

http://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Spanish/Gongora.htm#anchor_Toc323380666

http://www.spainthenandnow.com/spanish-literature/gongora-mientras-por-competir…/default_151.aspx

tailor STATELY
05-24-2017, 06:36 AM
LdG: "was a Spanish Baroque lyric poet. Góngora and his lifelong rival, Francisco de Quevedo, are widely considered the most prominent Spanish poets of all time. " - wikipedia. Having a rival seems to have spurred his creativity to greater heights. Enjoyed "On the Deceptive Brevity of Life" & "Index of First Lines" which reads as a poem as well. The other link is a fine critique of his poem "Sonnet clxvi: Mientras por competir"

Gaspara Stampa... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaspara_Stampa

https://allpoetry.com/Gaspara-Stampa

Danik 2016
05-24-2017, 09:46 PM
LdG-Unfortunately he sounds very different in English at least in the translations I found.

GS-First Italian woman poet I ever heard of. You find them all. :smile5: Also a very early literary salon.

Samuel Daniel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Daniel

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/love-is-a-sickness-2/ (it must be because he doesn´t write about anything else)

tailor STATELY
05-25-2017, 04:54 AM
SD: Man of the court c. 1600 and a short time Poet Laureate. Aside from the Why so?s and Heigh ho!s a rather nice poem.

Donald Grady Davidson... https://mypoeticside.com/poets/donald-davidson-poems

https://mypoeticside.com/show-classic-poem-7281

Danik 2016
05-25-2017, 11:05 PM
SD-Lol!Unfortunate choice! There are lots of other sonnets.
DGD- The poem is a piece of history.


Du Fu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Du_Fu


In Jincheng, music of silk and flutes mixes together all day,
Half goes to the river breeze, half goes to the clouds.
Music such as this should only go to heaven above,
In this human world, how many times can it be heard?
http://www.chinese-poems.com/due.html

tailor STATELY
05-26-2017, 09:45 AM
DF: (lol) "I am about to scream madly in the office / Especially when they bring more papers to pile higher on my desk." and this quote was ~758 AD. Lived in a time when China was constantly in turmoil. "According to the Encyclopædia Britannica, Du Fu's writings are considered by many literary critics to be among the greatest of all time,[54] and it states "his dense, compressed language makes use of all the connotative overtones of a phrase and of all the intonational potentials of the individual word, qualities that no translation can ever reveal.""... grand praise indeed.
Overflowing
Du Fu

The moon's reflected on the river a few feet away,
A lantern shines in the night near the third watch.
On the sand, egrets sleep, peacefully curled together,
Behind the boat I hear the splash of jumping fish.

Fenggan... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenggan

Danik 2016
05-26-2017, 09:48 PM
Fenggan-A mysterious poet. Most of his poetry seems lost.


Francisco Quevedo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_de_Quevedo



To a spring
How happily you greet 1
the sun with your current,
in whose light you bubble to life,
ah, sacred spring,
daughter of the ancient forest!
How you entrust your hidden trove,
your cold waters, to its blond rays!
You blazon forth, sure of summer,
and bluster bravely at hoary winter;
but don’t mistreat him; by that road, 10
for all his fury, he must return,
for see, your new gilded sun
must return the way it came.
Winter and spring pass fl eetingly
through you; so nature decrees;
the vagabond months, marked by
the sky, are merely your guests.
Parched by heat, you love the ice,
prisoner of ice, you love the heat.
Sure, the sun’s brilliance 20
breaks your transparent jail,
made of liquid crystal and seeming silver.
But I fear that, burning,
it comes less to liberate
than to imbibe you,
and that you should decry
what impoverishes your clear current,
more than the pious ice,
which, seeing you weary of ever fl owing,
freezes your motion, 30
so you might rest.
library.globalchalet.net/.../Selected%20Poetry%20of%20Francisc...

tailor STATELY
05-27-2017, 06:59 AM
FQ: Góngora's antagonist (mutual). He was an "adherent of the style known as conceptismo": "a brilliant flash of wit expressed in pithy or epigrammatic style." It would appear he was a vulgar man albeit brilliant poet; the poem "To A Spring" delightful and full of passion..

Qiu Jin... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qiu_Jin

http://www.allday.com/this-forgotten-badass-chinese-heroine-was-a-warrior-revolutionary-femi-2180839166.html

Danik 2016
05-27-2017, 10:14 PM
QJ-Loved her.Even in 20C to be a Chinese feminist must have required extra courage. Chinese women were more repressed than the women of several western countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Swift

http://www.poetrycat.com/jonathan-swift/the-progress-of-poetry

tailor STATELY
05-28-2017, 03:00 AM
JS: I know him from Gulliver's Travels, but only by the movies I've seen, evidently sanitized. The poem introduced me to
the word Hippocrene.

Suleiman the Magnificent... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suleiman_the_Magnificent

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_55458

Danik 2016
05-28-2017, 09:20 PM
JS-I love Gulliver´s Travels I think the book is a wonderful satire of British Imperialism. "A Modest Proposal" is an obligatory read but it is a very harsh satire, it´s meant to shock, that´s why I didn´t include the link.
This Suleiman may have given his people good laws, but to his sons he was worse than English Richard III


Saadi Shirazi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saadi_Shirazi

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/ch-03-on-the-excellence-of-contentment-story-08/

tailor STATELY
05-29-2017, 04:10 PM
SS: A common man poet during the Mongol invasions who had an ease with prosaic style.
wikipedia: Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said in Tehran: "[...] At the entrance of the United Nations there is a magnificent carpet – I think the largest carpet the United Nations has – that adorns the wall of the United Nations, a gift from the people of Iran. Alongside it are the wonderful words of that great Persian poet, Sa’adi":

All human beings are members of one frame,
Since all, at first, from the same essence came.
When time afflicts a limb with pain
The other limbs at rest cannot remain.
If thou feel not for other’s misery
A human being is no name for thee.


Simin Behbahani... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/09/AR2006060902025.html

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2012/07/poetry-ancient-eve-the-ghazals-of-simin-behbahani.html

https://iranian.com/Arts/2002/February/Simin/

Danik 2016
05-29-2017, 11:03 PM
SB-Loved her strong personality. Incisive poetry
http://siminbehbahani.com/index.php/en/i-m-so-in-love

Billy Jno Hope
http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/billy_jno_hope (Couldn´t find a better biography)

http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/billy_jno_hope/poems/21812

tailor STATELY
05-30-2017, 03:10 AM
SB: Wonderful poem of the regrets of growing old, albeit contrary to my belief to endure to the end. BJH: http://calliopenerve.blogspot.com/2009/09/calliope-nerve-interview-series-billy.html . The poem is a bit avant garde: enjoyed L5.

Helene Johnson... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helene_Johnson

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-sandman-2/

Danik 2016
05-30-2017, 10:54 PM
BJH-Enjoyed the interview

HJ-Liked both poems of poem hunter


Joanna Baillie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_Baillie

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/to-the-rainbow-2/

tailor STATELY
05-31-2017, 07:53 AM
JB: Beloved philanthropic dramatist/poet. "To the Rainbow": Beautiful poem especially S7: "And when its yellow lustre smil'd/O'er mountains yet untrod,/Each mother held aloft her child/To bless the bow of God."

Bob Holman... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Holman

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/dreaming-from-chinese-poems/

Danik 2016
05-31-2017, 10:11 PM
BH-Sensibility and iniciative. The poem implies as much as it tells.
A preciosity: KHONSAY: Poem of Many Tongues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4LVjx8dmnc


Hubert Church
https://www.poemhunter.com/hubert-church/biography/


https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/spring-in-new-zealand/

tailor STATELY
06-01-2017, 12:42 PM
Khonsay: Very interesting project. Read... http://www.khonsay.com/read/ ... in depth... http://www.khonsay.com/poets/

HC: New Zealander poet - "omnivorous reader"; S1 my favorite from the poem Spring In New Zealand: "Thou wilt come with suddenness, /Like a gull between the waves, /Or a snowdrop that doth press /Through the white shroud on the graves; /Like a love too long withheld, /That at last has over-welled."

Charlotte Turner Smith

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Turner_Smith

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/to-the-snowdrop/

Danik 2016
06-01-2017, 10:58 PM
Khonsay-Glad you poste these links. The video is beautiful, but so one can read the text as a whole unit.
CS- Another incredible woman-And her story reminded me of the Dickens novel´s Little Dorrit and Bleak House.

Sterling Allen Brown

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterling_Allen_Brown

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/slim-greer-in-hell/

tailor STATELY
06-02-2017, 05:50 AM
SAB: Brilliant man... must have been too busy to pursue his doctorate: "but several colleges he attended gave him honorary doctorates". Influenced by "folk-based culture" and music: rural themes... "treated the simple lives of poor, black, country folk with extra poignancy and dignity". The poem you selected written in the vernacular is amusing. "Southern Cop" is just too tragic/poignant and timeless.

B. Traven... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._Traven

http://www.katesharpleylibrary.net/p2nhcr

Danik 2016
06-02-2017, 11:14 PM
SAB-Usualy one has to have a doctorate to lecture at the university. But he probably was so brilliant that he got honorary degrees.

B. Traven-It seems that his own story is still more interesting than his fiction. I looked him up in German. A certain Hauschild published a biography of 700 pages about Traven after intensive research. Acording to him he was born as Otto Feige in Poland as the son of a worker(1882). He got involved with the worker movement. Later he became an actor under the name of Ret Marut and edited a worker magazine, but was imprisoned suspect of spionage. 1924 he was freed and he went to Tampico (Mexico). In1926 he became a US citizen under the nameTraven Torsvan. He died 1969.

Thomas Edward Brown
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Edward_Brown

http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/people/writers/teb/p695.htm

tailor STATELY
06-03-2017, 07:31 AM
TEB: "Manx national poet." Incredible poem: an allegory; the rhyme scheme is delightfully stilted.

Beth Gylys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beth_Gylys

http://newworldwriting.net/beth-gylys/ (I chose these over others that did not suit my sensibilities.)

Danik 2016
06-03-2017, 10:34 PM
BG-modernist touch. Good selection. I found some other poems by her rather crude and not so lyrical.




Gabriela Mistral

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriela_Mistral

http://www.poetrycat.com/gabriela-mistral/pine-forest

tailor STATELY
06-04-2017, 02:49 AM
GM: Nobel prize in literature... Poet, educator; one of her students was Pablo Neruda. "Received a doctor honoris causa from Mills College, Oakland, California" as well (just 12 miles (19 km) NNW from where I attended college for a short time). Enjoyed "Pine Forest", but she was wrong in one respect for my locale: our Pine forests are dying, blighted by the Pine Borer Beetle... we've lost many on our property because the long drought made the pines susceptible to the beetles... whole groves stand dead nearby or are being cut down.

Maoilios Caimbeul

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maoilios_Caimbeul

From: ( http://www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poetry/poets/maoilios-caimbeul )

http://www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poetry/poems/rud-thachair

Danik 2016
06-04-2017, 08:18 PM
GM-I am sorry for the Californian pines, but there is not knowing which landscape she had in mind, when she wrote the poem.
MC-Loved his way of combining landscape and feelings http://maoilioscaimbeul.co.uk

Charlotte Forten Grimké
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poets/detail/charlotte-l-forten-grimkae#poet

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/wordsworth-8/

tailor STATELY
06-05-2017, 07:12 AM
GM: Yes, GM's Pines are likely an idealization; reminiscent of the Ents of J.R.R. Tolkien as they walk: Perhaps the night will watch closer now that weevil is nigh.
MC: The landscapes do lend themselves to that extra bit of imagery lacking in the mind's eye that helps one with a sense of place. Loved this: "O soft idols of the pillow!
I take my leave of you
joyfully, with doubt, with tears,
because I have been wrong for so long,
for the spendthrift days,
for the warm, deceitful bedcovers.
O, all-seeing heart!
O, deceiving, soiled heart
you are killed with sacrifices,
flayed by the knife of the morning!"
CFG: Abolitionist/Educator: Woman of privilege; pre- and post US Civil War poet. More the classical poet in the poem you offered than I would have imagined, especially after reading Sterling Allen Brown's poems recently.

Gertrude Stein

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrude_Stein

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/resources/learning/core-poems/detail/49202

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/resources/learning/core-poems/detail/49202#guide

Danik 2016
06-05-2017, 10:15 PM
GS-Extraordinary cultural activity. The explanation of the poem you added was very
helpful, for my first impression was, that it might be ironic.


Samuel Garth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Garth

https://becker.wustl.edu/about/news/national-poetry-month-samuel-garths-dispensary

http://www.europeana.eu/portal/en/record/9200143/58393BF997D038402EA74610FF6FDD484B45AFC4.html (download necessary)

tailor STATELY
06-06-2017, 01:54 AM
SG: 17/18th century physician and poet; zealous Whig and wig. His "The Dispensary" has 6-cantos/150+ pgs with stylized "s's" about a dispute between physicians and apothecaries... sideloaded to my Kindle. Another Garth (with Wayne): https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/snl40-waynes-world/2847170?snl=1

George Starbuck... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Starbuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9xqZcyfgCg

docs up to date :)

Danik 2016
06-06-2017, 10:31 PM
SG-Lol! I was interested in the unusual subject for an epic poem, but didn´t know that it was that long. 150+ pages is a bit much. Link to other Garth didn´t open.
GS-Very original poem very well performed.
Thank you for updating all the docs :)

Sadakichi Hartmann
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadakichi_Hartmann

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/tanka-18/

https://archive.org/details/driftingflowers00hartgoog

tailor STATELY
06-07-2017, 10:57 AM
SH: Great find. Escaped the horrors of American incarceration (deux). wiki: "An important early participant in modernism, Hartmann was a friend of such diverse figures as Walt Whitman, Stéphane Mallarmé and Ezra Pound." Delicate voice in his poetry... love it.

Huang Xiang

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huang_Xiang

https://www.atanet.org/publications/beacons_10_pages/page_54.pdf

Danik 2016
06-07-2017, 10:21 PM
HX-Loved His poems. I still remember the conflicts on the Tiananmen Square and the hardness of the regimen.

Xul Solar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xul_Solar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cyDBC6g7-M


(Having to log out and then in again when I am longer on LItNet. Else I can´t post)

tailor STATELY
06-08-2017, 02:16 AM
re: log in... odd. XS: Quite eclectic in his endeavors; wonderful sense of composition - to my untrained eye quite surreal. Some auction prices: http://www.invaluable.com/artist/solar-xul-xgwxyz5485/sold-at-auction-prices/ and http://artist.christies.com/Alejandro-Xul-Solar--45143.aspx

Susanna Rowson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanna_Rowson

https://archive.org/stream/memoirsusanna00nasorich#page/n91/mode/2up

Danik 2016
06-10-2017, 09:47 PM
Re re login:Only way seems to be keeping sawing longer texts while writing them or writing them on word and then pasting.
XS-Not trained either but love his colourful paintings and iconographic mixtures.Was Introduced to him by Prof. Jorge Schwartz (Schwartz, Jorge. "Let the Stars Compose Syllables: Xul and Neo-Creole." Xul Solar: Visiones Y Revelaciones. Buenos Aires: Malba – Coleccion Costantini, 2005. 200–208).

SR-Besides being an acomplished poet a resourceful woman."After William's hardware business failed and his father died in 1791, he and Susanna took in his orphaned sister Charlotte Rowson and they all turned to acting". My idea of a resilient family.

Robert Creeley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Creeley
https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/gnomic-verses/

tailor STATELY
06-11-2017, 02:45 AM
Do you keep the " Remember Me? " box always checked ? (under the sign in). RC: A beloved poet who would reach out and be supportive to others. "an innovative poet"... "form is never more than an extension of content," for his poems were often written in couplet, triplet, and quatrain stanzas that break into and out of rhyme as happenstance appears to dictate." His poem a jumble of quatrains and single word "breaks" and form changes and alliterative playfulness and here and there a rhyme.

Charlotte Lennox

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Lennox

https://www.poetrynook.com/poem/song-916