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imthefoolonthehill
03-15-2004, 11:29 PM
in your opinion, what percent of the population (not including mentally impared, children under 10, or people in comas) are insane?

fayefaye
03-16-2004, 06:36 AM
I don't know. I thought this was going to be personal percentage of insanity, which places me about 84% crazy, higher pre-exam time.

Lara
03-16-2004, 07:15 AM
I think we all have to be somewhat insane to survive in this crazy world! hahaha

If you want more of a thought process here, how is insane defined? If someone sees a psychiatrist for a mental disorder and takes medication to control it, then should they be considered insane? Apparently, mental disorders are caused by imbalances in brain chemistry, that includes depression. If I remember correctly, someone correct me if I'm mistaken,I think the statistics are, that 1 in 4 adults will require assistance at some point in there life. I think just counselling is included in this. Also, I know women who are on antidepressants for PMS. Okay, we're changing the chemical balance in our brains to compensate for the hormonal imbalance in our bodies. Does that make a woman having PMS insane?

Koa
03-16-2004, 09:43 AM
Uhm what do you mean? Technically, medically insane, I wouldn't know how many cos it's not something I know about people (and it seems to me that in Uk/USA and such places, the percentage of people that are cured for mental stuff is much much higher than here... not because of people of course, I guess there's a different care...). If it's about relative insanity, I'd say 50%. They're the people I can relate with. The sane part of the world...I don't even wanna know about! :D

atiguhya padma
03-16-2004, 11:55 AM
Have you ever heard of The Quantity Theory of Insanity? I don't know whether it is a bona fide theory, or whether Will Self made it up for his short story of the same name. Anyway, it states that the amount of insanity in the world is always constant (%-wise, I should imagine), and therefore, when you heal a patient somewhere, a new patient will arise elsewhere. Can't see that it is very believable myself, so maybe Self did invent it after all.

On the other hand, writers like Thomas Sasz and David Smail have some interesting views on mental illness. Neither of them tend to believe that mental illness exists (other than clinical, I imagine). Sasz I think would say it is merely extreme diverse behaviour, Smail would say it is the stress of loss of power (especially economic power).

AP

psycojones
03-16-2004, 03:19 PM
i am curious why you ask this question? i do not know how many people (percentage wise) are crazy. i do know that their seems to be more around a full moon. as far as insanity goes, i do have this to say. many of the greatest leader, thinkers, and artists of the world, were thought to be or are diagnosed with some type of mental illness. of course, so were some of the greatest tyrants, murders, ect... insanity, mental illness, craziness, all these charactures help people think out side the box and give a creative, and different out look on the areas they wish to explore. einstien, kant, picoso, king(stephen), i guess i could go on for ever. my point is this, it is said that we will all experience some type of mental illness with in out life time, and i have read that 1 in 4 of us will require treatment. now if we know how to but our illness into something creative that the world is looking for, we then become an artist. perhaps this is where the word illustrate come from.

insanity is great when it doesn't hurt anyone, and something creative comes of it.

Jay
03-16-2004, 03:40 PM
When one's insane, how does he know what hurts and what not? Would he, being insane, even care if he hurts someone?

Koa
03-16-2004, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by psycojones
now if we know how to but our illness into something creative that the world is looking for, we then become an artist. perhaps this is where the word illustrate come from.



RIGHT!!! (but why illustrate?)

Stanislaw
03-16-2004, 07:44 PM
To answer the question of fools...

100%

:D :D :D :D

amuse
03-16-2004, 08:31 PM
Such a low number, Stan! ;)

psycojones
03-17-2004, 03:26 PM
hey koa, how are you?
as far as the illustrate goes, that was just a little humour.
(ILL)ustrate- to explain; make clear, as by examples. how do you clear of anything when it starts will ILL.

jay, haven't really got to interact with you much. how are you?
to give you my insight on your question about " when one is insane how does he know what hurts, and what does not". insanity is mental illness. mental illness is anything from depression, to psychotic-schizophrenic, and anything inbetween. now with that being said, you are right about the perception on what is right and what is wrong with someone being unsound in mind, and how it differs from our right and wrong.

but for the most part, mentally ill people shelter themselves from society. how do i know this. because highest diagnosed mental illness in the world is depression. we are all to experience with in our life time. when depressed, we experience all sorts of deep riddles emotions that we try to express through some type of creative process; writing, painting, poetry, basiclly the arts. it is when it spills into the arts of war, murder, ect...

just think jay, how many leader over the course of our worlds history who have been insane, and how many of or greatest thinkers.
just my thoughts.

subterranean
03-18-2004, 01:26 AM
Fool I can only say that like your avatar!

subterranean
03-18-2004, 01:34 AM
You know, on trying to find out your question I browsed the net and I found this intersting site about procaz, lithium, Mercury, brain damage, Confinement of Children, Ritalin, Neuropsychiatric symptoms, Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome, etc...

Gee Fool your question really make my day :D

imthefoolonthehill
03-18-2004, 02:39 AM
subterranean... thanks...

The rest of allyall... (giggles because he said allyall)...

anyway... I didn't want this to be a forum defining insanity.... I assumed we all had a different definition imprinted on our brain.... I was hoping no one would try to define it.... and that people would just list percentages.


and please, for the love of God, do not say insanity is a relative term. some people are insane, and others are insane, no matter how many people agree that Billy is a duck, it doesn't make his ideas correct or sane.

avid_reader
03-18-2004, 08:57 AM
have noticed streak of insanity in a lot of 'highly' creative people whom i've known. some are silly simpletons ! i wonder if there is a connection between c and i ? !!

crisaor
03-18-2004, 12:50 PM
If I had to guess, I'd say that humanity's % of insanity is not a constant. IMO, throughout history this number has been up and down.

IWilKikU
03-18-2004, 08:57 PM
Sometimes I bite the flying pineapples that swim through my ears, and when I do, they don't taste anything like pineapples at all. They taste like snail trails, but not fresh ones, more like the ones that are a day or two old that you carefully preserved by sitting by them on the sidewalk rubbing ice on them. Once I rubbed ice on my dog's tummy until she shrunk small enough to fit in the toaster. Than I sent her into the toaster and told her not to come back until the toaster had told her the meaning of life. So she took off her prosthetic dog lips and told me that I didn't respect her as a person.

Stanislaw
03-18-2004, 11:22 PM
Another statistic is born.:D

Blade
03-19-2004, 09:18 AM
perhaps the question is not who is insane but who is sane?

den
03-19-2004, 10:39 AM
Why yes, me and many of my friends family and acquaintances are insane! Repeatedly doing the same thing over and over and over, hoping for different outcome. :p

imthefoolonthehill
03-21-2004, 12:15 AM
today, I would say that 60-70 percent of the population is clinically insane and should be in an assylem.

Munro
03-21-2004, 06:35 AM
Originally posted by den
Why yes, me and many of my friends family and acquaintances are insane! Repeatedly doing the same thing over and over and over, hoping for different outcome. :p

Lol. I wasted $$$ on an arcade game today trying to get past a level, and thought the exact same thought.