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spacetoon
03-03-2007, 02:40 AM
Hi everyone,

I've read the novel till chapter 10 and I have seen the movie. I like it just my likeness to my mother. But I have got a simple question which is: How to relate Pride and prejudice to the story itself? I am confused.


Thanks in advance.

Matrim Cuathon
03-03-2007, 09:10 AM
you means relate the wordes pride and prejudice to the story?

spacetoon
03-04-2007, 09:15 AM
yes. How can I relate the words Pride and Prejudice to the story? How can I write it down in papers ?

JBI
03-04-2007, 10:02 AM
Firstly, finish the book. Also I hope it was the 1940 addition and not some newer take on the movie (though the 2005 one is alright, nothing beats the original). Secondly do you mean the themes of pride and prejudice?

If so, you must look at each time pride an prejudice occurs throughout the novel. Specifically I would look towards Elizabeth and Mr. Darcy, and see how pride and prejudice are the two obstacles they had to overcome to achieve happiness/get married.

You would probably want to first define what pride and prejudice are, say where it occurs in the story, and how Austen uses it to support the meaning of the story, and to further the plot.

sciencefan
03-04-2007, 03:22 PM
Hi everyone,

I've read the novel till chapter 10 and I have seen the movie. I like it just my likeness to my mother. But I have got a simple question which is: How to relate Pride and prejudice to the story itself? I am confused.

Thanks in advance.What are you asking?
Do you want to know who shows "pride" and who shows "prejudice"?

If that is what you are asking, some definitions may be in order.

pride
n.
-A sense of one's own proper dignity or value; self-respect.
-Pleasure or satisfaction taken in an achievement, possession, or association.
-Arrogant or disdainful conduct or treatment; haughtiness.
-An excessively high opinion of oneself; conceit.

prej·u·dice
n.
-An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
-A preconceived preference or idea.
-Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion.

mazz
03-28-2007, 10:40 AM
I am enjoying your contributions sciencefan, you write well and seem very knowledgeable. I agree with jbi, they should finish the book (using a dictionary) I've read it 5 times and only just feel.. can't explain , just enjoying the prose. I was most seriously displeased with the new movie, the original movie was a bit silly, the BBC version is the definitive.

sciencefan
03-28-2007, 12:13 PM
I am enjoying your contributions sciencefan, you write well and seem very knowledgeable. I agree with jbi, they should finish the book (using a dictionary) I've read it 5 times and only just feel.. can't explain , just enjoying the prose. I was most seriously displeased with the new movie, the original movie was a bit silly, the BBC version is the definitive.Thank you kindly.

I liked the new movie with Kiera Knightly, but I prefer the BBC version.

DahliaBlood
03-30-2007, 07:42 AM
Me and my friends have been trying to watch the original version but sadly we are not able to get a hold of it. The new one was kind of a let down to us.

To answer your question...

How can you expect to write about the theme of pride and prejudice when you have only read the first 10 chapters in a 61 chapter book? It is silly. So read the book first and then you may not have to rely on us for the answer.

Anyway...

The theme of pride and prejudice are mostly shown through Elizabeth and Darcy. It is Elizabeth's prejudices and Darcy's pride that prevent them from getting married the first time and making all our lives easier. Both of them obtain wrong impressions of each other in their first meeting because of their pride and prejudice.

Elizabeth's prejudice is first triggered off when Darcy first refers to her as 'tolerable, but not handsome enough to tempt me,' This is a clear veiw of Darcy's pride and rather harsh of him.
For this Elizabeth cannot forgive him - 'I could easily forgive his pride, if he had not mortified mine.'

Only after Darcy's first proposal do both Elizabeth and Darcy recieve a awakening. Darcy's pride is wounded when Elizabeth, rather harshly, rejects him and accuses him of not behaving in a 'gentlemanlike manner'

This causes Darcy to write a letter to Elizabeth because he feels that Elizabeth has accused him of all the wrong things. Even when Elizabeth recieves Darcy's explanatory letter she opens it with a 'strong prejudice against everything he might say.' The style of the letter according to Elizabeth was 'haughty. It was all pride and insolence.' This shows that Elizabeth's prejudices make everything black and white. She is right and he is wrong.

Only after she reads the bit about Wickham does her pride come crashing down and she feels guilty. She openly admits that she has been 'blind, partial, prejudiced and absurd. She even accepts the truth about her own family.

This strong dislike for Darcy is what leads Elizabeth to readily believe everything Wickham says. In this way Elizabeth is blinded by her her prejudice and Jane Austen makes her pay for it as she learns the true character of Wickham through Darcy. This is a hard blow for her as she has always taken pride in her judgement.

After this is when both character undergo a change in characters as they are the only two characters that evolve and change for the better. When Elizabeth's prejudice and Darcy's pride are expelled, Elizabeth realises that she is in love with Darcy and Darcy knows he is still in love with Elizabeth. Hence they get married and live happily ever after :D

Hope this was useful. There are many other places where the theme of P&P is shown but you'll have to find that out for yourself. :)

Blackjack Davy
04-06-2007, 03:17 PM
Pride and Prejudice is more than the name. For instance Darcy is cold at the dance at Meryton, but is it merely his pride that makes him prejudiced against the neighbourhood?

Or could it be that because he's not playing the game of "marry our daughters" the neighbourhoods' pride is put out of joint and they're unnaturally prejudiced as a result...?

ryse
12-20-2009, 07:39 AM
Pride and Prejudice has, in my opinion, many adaptations. It is the cliche of the rich man and the poor woman. The cliche of the arrogant man and the witty woman. It is also the cliche of first impressions - finding out who is Mr Right and attempts with Mr Wrong. Who knows, maybe this is your love story.