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sumalan monica
01-28-2007, 02:53 PM
Jane eyre- represents the woman in each of us,that feminine and mysterious look,that unforgettable poetry .She is everywhere a secret window,a secret glance the truth in the eyes of the night.
The heroine is a symbol of endurance,and victory over the human soul

Adriana
02-27-2007, 05:36 AM
Your brief description of Jane is both accurate and romantic. I love it. I would like to add to your description, her best virtue, which is, in my opinion, her profund wisdom. All the suffering she went through in her childhood, did not make her a hard of heart woman, but all the contrary, her tenderness, loyalty to others and acceptance of her unhappy first years of life, prove her to be a woman that has become an example to humanity, no matter the sex, religion or political ideas. Only through wisdom, could Jane carry on with her life in the best possible way, and thus, achieve true happiness.
All my love, Adriana.

Newcomer
02-27-2007, 12:13 PM
Imagination and fantasy are very precious gifts. To utilize these gifts, to write a novel, requires skill and hard work. Even to read something that is not superficial you need intelligence and experience, wisdom. And experience requires time, there is no shortcut to truth as read 'in the eyes of the night.' Truth is multifaceted, not mysterious.
Jane Eyre is an astonishing woman for the Victorian age, but she was not a role model. Charlotte who knew her best could not mold her life on the lessons of the novel. She married out of love and died in childbirth. An unnecessary death.
Who among the contemporary women would exchange her cell phone for the extrasensory communication between lovers? As to romantic love, the present divorce rate gives doubt that it is a better choice than arranged marriage.

kare288
03-11-2007, 04:24 PM
Experience doesn’t automatically lead to wisdom, what’s important in developing wisdom is how a person responds to life circumstances…as Adriana points out, “All the suffering she went through in her childhood, did not make her a hard of heart woman, but on the contrary, her tenderness, loyalty to others and acceptance of her unhappy first years of life, prove her to be a woman that has become an example to humanity, no matter the sex, religion or political ideas.”
Skill is also a very basic form of wisdom, for example; One may be highly skilled in his/her craft, writing let’s say. Then there is the wisdom that is insight into life and it’s complexities. Bronte develops Jane in such a way as to show Jane choosing wise paths where she has the power to do so. The fact that Bronte creates a heroine that inspires women and humanity, even outside of her own time, testifies to Bronte’s own wise understanding of humanity and women.
For Newcomer…a few things…I question your perception regarding Jane not being a role model because Bronte lost her own life during childbirth, that somehow because of her untimely or type of death her character is disqualified from being heroic or a model?
Also, you mention Bronte marries out of love (for the sake of love, that is) and doesn’t Jane do the same in the novel? One last thing, your statement…”Who among the contemporary women would exchange her cell phone for the extrasensory communication between lovers?” Even in Jane’s day Blanche cared more for the material and convenient than for “two becoming one.” Jane and women of her character, then and now, rise to the challenge to be wise and therefore cherish and strive to promote the freedom to do so. Would love to hear back from anyone.

Adriana
03-11-2007, 08:43 PM
I must confess that I am always learning somthing new whenever I read Jane Eyre. I have been educated in a middle class familiy with the best and high moral values you can think of. I am really very thankful to my parents. I am a mother of two teenagers and the same eduacation I have received from my parents, I give to my boys. I only want the best for them and I hope that they will be good men in the future. But what do we learn from Jane? She had no family at all, she was called "rat" by people who were not her blood and she was often locked up in a room where she thought there was a ghost in it. Too much for a little girl...
So this is the message I get from her. When I write about her wisdom and the power of her soul, I cannot help feeling so attracted by the personality she managed to develop by herself and without a family. Very often, I wish I could have only a small part of that goodness she carries inside, to be able to forgive people who have hurt me in the past. I must work hard on this and learn more of her. Jane managed to do so. Jane was a teacher in the novel. Jane continues to be a teacher out of it, in the nineteenth century, twentieth, twenty first, for ever...

vin1391
03-12-2007, 03:20 AM
What you said about Jane is soo true...I mean she is great..her personality...her behaviour...everything shows how such women with character can acheive more than all the other sorts of women combined.

kare288
03-14-2007, 07:12 PM
Hi Adriana. I agree, Jane's character offers us so much to emulate and I, too, keep seeing new things in the story. Today I was re-reading (actually listened to the book on tape :) the time when Jane was at Lowood and how much she admired and loved Miss Temple and Helen. For me, these two were, more than anyone in her childhood, a "type" of family for her. She observed and learned from both of these wise women, as they made such an impact with their behavior and countenance. They both comforted Jane during her very difficult times, and Miss Temple protected Jane's reputation from Mr. Brockelhurst's slander. The two of them, Miss Temple and Helen, had their very own special relantionship also. Helen learning from Miss Temple and then sharing with the older one what she delighted in. I see these as patterns wise women practice with each other. The modeling, teaching and sharing continue into Jane's life until that time when both leave her, Helen dies and Miss Temple marries. Jane realizes there is nothing more for her at Lowood and then leaves but takes with her all that she learned of these two. I am reminded of how Jane never thought she could forgive Mrs. Reed, yet, in the end does :) Bronte didn't write Jane's character as always having wisdom but shows Jane as one who is willing to learn from others she recognizes as wise. Here Jane also models something good for all...a teachable spirit! Gotta love her! Thanks for feedback...vin1392, too!

vin1391
03-15-2007, 04:21 AM
you are welcome

Adriana
03-15-2007, 04:52 AM
I agree with you completely!

Sofia102
11-07-2007, 03:49 AM
Jane Eyre is an astonishing woman for the Victorian age, but she was not a role model. Charlotte who knew her best could not mold her life on the lessons of the novel. She married out of love and died in childbirth. An unnecessary death.


actually it was very common for women to die in childbirth in those days (anyway, there's something poetic in dying while giving someone else life) , and furthermore, i see nothing wrong with marrying for love! jeez, isn't THAT the point Charlotte Bronte was making when Jane refused St. John's loveless marriage? and going back to the man who loves her the most? who is not handsome nor powerful nor a perfect man, but someone who will give her a happy life?


jeez you are really starting to piss me off.

Newcomer
11-14-2007, 05:16 PM
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For Newcomer…a few things…I question your perception regarding Jane not being a role model because Bronte lost her own life during childbirth, that somehow because of her untimely or type of death her character is disqualified from being heroic or a model?

I saw your video. A very nice job, juxtaposing images and song, skillful and poetic.
I am quite aware of how much there is of Charlotte in Jane and the skill and poetry in the composition of Jane Eyre. My reference to role models was meant in a very narrow way, more analytical than aesthetic. It was meant to suggest a separation of the author from the character and a caution in assuming that Charlotte wrote with a role model in mind.
Sorry for the late reply, just lost the thread as I was jumping between Charlotte and Jane.