Valentines day

[imthefoolonthehill]

Were you lonely on Valentines day?

(look at all the lonely people.... Eleanor Rigby...)

[Munro]

Yes, and I loved it. Relationships at my age are a crock of shhite, and no one is sophisticated enough to be romantic.

[den]

No

[den]

Interesting observation Munro, I take it you're in your teens? or early twenties?

[star blue]

here's an interesting observation: old people are very unromantic.

[imthefoolonthehill]

I know a guy who is 92... got married last year... very romantic oceanside proposal.

[star blue]

the other ninety-five percent are a real bummer.

[IWilKikU]

The most idealistic romantic couples that I know are all in their 40's. People my age (early 20's) either arn't romantic, or try to be and just look stupid rather than slick. However, I've seen friends of mine do retarded things in the name of romance that have made them laughing stocks, but the girls that they were doing these things for (singing [badly] to them in a crowded resturaunt, ect.) loved it. So I guess romance is in the eye of the beholder.

[Shea]

I like my husband's kind of romance (obviously) elaborate when it needs to be (like my Cinderella proposal) but at times simple because he's thoughtful (like ice cream when I'm blue). I know, too mushy.

[subterranean]

I wasn't, cause last Feb 14th happened to be my graduation day and personally I never really give a damn about this V day whether I have someone with me or not..

And I think there are some parties who tried to make persons who are lonely in V day look like the most pathethic people for the sake of their own benefits...

[imthefoolonthehill]

I was. It sucked because it wasn't any different from any other day.

[Munro]

Aww fool, sounds like you need to listen to some Dizzee Rascal.

And to read this - hehe, kinda funny:

http://www.onion.com/4006/opinion2.html

[subterranean]

Hey watch out you..what do you mean by loveless singles...:mad:

I may be single but I'm not loveless..;)

[Stanislaw]

I had to pull an overtime shift at my Job. My girlfriend wasn't too happy... gotta smooth things over.

[Munro]

Originally posted by den
Interesting observation Munro, I take it you're in your teens? or early twenties?

Late teens. Not as much fun as it sounds.

And sub, it wasn't me who was calling you loveless, it was the fat chick-cum-columnist. But you don't need to read The Onion to find THEM, they're in almost every paper you read :)

[subterranean]

They are? gees..Hey, if you're late teens means 19, I envy you.I think thats the coolest age of all..I wish I could be 19 foreva..

And Stan, I thought you're a gal :D

[Cassandra]

Only if ya could miss bits out. Though I'm 17 I can't talk but some things just can't change. Anyway I agree with Munro, almost no one in their late teens is capable of non disgusting, proper sophisticated romance. :(

[Koa]

Childish and immature as it is (I missed that phase as a teenager and I'm having it now...), I'm so depressed about all that sort of stuff that I dont even want to read this thread.

[Koa]

Uhm Ok I read up there... i also agree that 19 (actually I think it's 18, but thinking about it now I decided I can accept 19) should be the age to stop growing...what's worth it after that...(uhm ok I'm being too tragic now).

And if teens are not able of romance, tell me why all the bloody kids I see around seem so happily in love and they'll never understand how it feels to be old and lonely. Sometimes I feel an urge to interrupt them while showing off their love, and shout this on their faces...

[Cassandra]

Maybe loads are happily in love but manys love is much too physical and unchivilirous to me. Call me old fasioned but I want a romantic, intellectual person.

[Munro]

Originally posted by Koa
And if teens are not able of romance, tell me why all the bloody kids I see around seem so happily in love and they'll never understand how it feels to be old and lonely. Sometimes I feel an urge to interrupt them while showing off their love, and shout this on their faces...

Most people my age who are "going out" aren't in it for anything meaningful. It's purely physical, but under the illusion of young romance, with either person dropping out when it suits them, or when they begin to miss the thrill of promiscuity. They make me sick, so I don't think about it.

The rare cases where there is something true in the relationship are often friendships. Those that aren't make me sick also, from envy rather than principle though. But as I said, I've been very happy being with myself recently, so it's all cool.

[Basil]

"To love is good, too: love being difficult. For one human being to love another: that is perhaps the most difficult of all our tasks, the ultimate, the last test and proof, the work for which all other work is but preparation. For this reason young people, who are beginners in everything, cannot yet know love: they have to learn it. With their whole being, with all their forces, gathered close about their upward-beating heart, they must learn to love.
"But young people err so often and so grievously in this: that they (in whose nature it lies to have no patience) fling themselves at each other, when love takes possession of them, scatter themselves, just as they are, in all their untidiness, disorder, confusion. . . . And then what? What is life to do to this heap of half-battered existence which they call their communion and which they would gladly call their happiness, if it were possible, and their future?"

[fayefaye]

I agree with what munro's said. But who cares about romance anyway? It all ends up drivel, I'm happy just being with my friends.

[Cassandra]

Originally posted by fayefaye
But who cares about romance anyway? It all ends up drivel, I'm happy just being with my friends.

that's a bit pessimistic (can't spell this)! Why can't people have a happy genuine loving relationship and hang with their friends?

[Koa]

...and what's wrong with physical stuff? :D
I mean, it's a part of life too...

All I can say to Munro and faye is...wait till you're past the age of 20. You might have to face the phase you're skipping now, and you will end up acting like teenagers... Or at least that's what's happening to me (I used to be sort of like that too) :rolleyes: :eek:

[Cassandra]

nothings wrong with physical, just some people don't have a balance and don't respect people when they don't want to be physical.

[Munro]

On the contrary Koa, I've had enough of the physcial. It eats away at the soul. I find the physical almost shameful unless there's some kind of courtship/love behind it. And it makes me feel guilty and disgusting. I'm sorry that you - and my peers - cseem not to understand that.

And, I'm hoping that my the time I'm 20 that I'll be far, far away from everything that was teenage in my life, in my friendships and attitude.

[Koa]

Well Munro, maybe I misunderstood... I'm not talking of the physical thing when I mention phases... But I got the impression that at the moment you're not caring about relationships etc, which is great if you feel good with that... And since I'm oversensitive about this sort of stuff lately, I related it to my own experience... When I was 16 or so, all my freinds where chasing boys and they looked so ridicolous...(you know, the silly stuff teenage girls do ;))...I couldn't act like that, I called it 'dignity'. And I hardly ever found guys I was really interested in.
Now I'm into that phase....chasing guys like a teenager!!! :rolleyes:
So I thought I'd warn you incase it happens to you too... ;) (well I guess you'd chase girls :D).

And lucky you if you've had enough of the only physical stuff. Having been the teenager I was is still affecting my life: I wish so much to have had one of those 'pastime' relationships that people have at 14 (another thing I skipped and miss), but I was the fat shy ugly one so all I could do was watch other people live. Not that it's changed too much now, but it's certainly better.

[IWilKikU]

An emotional backing to a physical relationship is always better, no matter what age you are.

[subterranean]

Well I passed my teenage, and indeed I agree that teenage styles can not be implied to this phase of age. At the moment I already consider for a future plan, I mean I'm not looking for something that only last for 2 or 3 months. And I don't really see what's wrong with those ridiculous teenage romance, and I think it's a pitty if a teenage doesn't experience that. It's a part of growth experience (IMO).

I saw bunch of these kids, talked about cheap stuffs, teenage romance and other yadda yadda things. First I thought gee kids don't you realize that you're talking giberrish and wasting your time. But then I figure, it's ok for them to do such thing. I mean one day the time will come when they're older and realize about it. It's all about experience.

And Koan I did enjoyed my time chasing boys, and I don't see it as something that could reduced your dignity as a woman to a certain point. Dignity is a whole lot more than that :)

[Koa]

Originally posted by subterranean . And I don't really see what's wrong with those ridiculous teenage romance, and I think it's a pitty if a teenage doesn't experience that. It's a part of growth experience (IMO).



That's what I meant, and I hate to have missed that. Not my fault if I wasn't 'good enough' for that :mad:
Now I'd like something 'light' and childish...you don't wanna know the mess I was (I'm) in instead. :(


As a principle, I'm not against physical relationships without feelings. If the partecipants are ok with that, who cares.... Personally I'm so shy that just touching someone's hand requires a lot of confidence...so I'm bound to always have to build complicated relationships

[subterranean]

Originally posted by Koa
That's what I meant, and I hate to have missed that. Not my fault if I wasn't 'good enough' for that :mad:
Now I'd like something 'light' and childish...you don't wanna know the mess I was (I'm) in instead. :(


Oh..please..do explain..:D



I'm not agaisnt prhysical relationship without romance either, but I don't do that, cause I'm not the kind of person who can manage to have the P relationship withouth the R..

[crisaor]

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Sub, I really like your new signature. :)

[fayefaye]

koa-late response. I don't care if I skip phases, I'm not going to return to them later.

[Koa]

Originally posted by fayefaye
koa-late response. I don't care if I skip phases, I'm not going to return to them later.

How can you be sure? I used to think that too...

And this sentence you've had just read is the oldest-feeling thing I've ever said :(

[fayefaye]

sorry, koa. But I know I'll never go back.

[Koa]

Lucky you if you can :)

[fayefaye]

hmmm... Sometimes I feel like an eighty year old trapped in a teenager's body, other times I'm so immature; like an eight year old... I can't get it quite right. Maybe when I'm senile, THEN I'll chase guys. Right now it's just not a big deal for me.

[Koa]

That's it. I'm about to turn 86.
But sometimes I feel like I'm 5...

86 is when I think, 5 is when I have to deal with real life...