Latina-Amatores Iungete!

[mir]

:D I have noticed that there are a lot of latin speakers on this forum. So, here is a thread for all us Latina-amatores! Speak in Latin or English as you wish. Anyone can come, regardless of how much they know, or would like to learn!

Subscripsit,
Mir, Senatus, Populusque Romanorum.

[kilted exile]

I took Latin at school for a couple of years (I was forced to take a language, and had no intention of taking french) We used the ECCE HOMO books, all I can remember is the opening sentence from the first one "In pictura est puella nomine Flavia". It is useful for determing meanings of words in other languages however.

[kathycf]

Um, I took Latin in seventh grade (age 12/13) and I am not going to go into how many years ago that was. The best I can remember is that it seemed every page of our textbook had some sentence about some foolish dog in the street.

"canis ingredior in vicus" is the best I can approximate it, so I know it has to be wrong! :p

[mir]

hehehe

'tis true, some Latin textbooks are like that. i remember the one we used to use in school was about a family, and they once took a trip and got their carriage stuck in a ditch for EIGHT WHOLE CHAPETERS. :lol:

Fortunately, things get better when you learn enough to go beyong the dogs and girls whose names are Flavia. :p Cave canem et is scelestus vexans! :D

[cuppajoe_9]

Brutus ad sum iam forte
Ceasar aderat
Brutus sic in omnibus
Ceasar sic in at

Brutus et erat forti
Caesar et sum iam
Brutus sic in omnibus
Caesar sic intram

[kathycf]

hehehe

'tis true, some Latin textbooks are like that. i remember the one we used to use in school was about a family, and they once took a trip and got their carriage stuck in a ditch for EIGHT WHOLE CHAPETERS. :lol:

Fortunately, things get better when you learn enough to go beyong the dogs and girls whose names are Flavia. :p Cave canem et is scelestus vexans! :D

Bad dog?? Yipes, just call me Flavia.:p

[Petrarch's Love]

Vale! O.K., I think that's as much Latin as your getting out of me extempore at nearly midnight. I'm glad to see there's been a thread started up dedicated to this lovely lingua morta. I took a couple years of Latin at university, but only enough so that I can run around crying "O Tempora! O Mores!," a lament that's generally ignored in any language.


Brutus ad sum iam forte
Ceasar aderat
Brutus sic in omnibus
Ceasar sic in at

Brutus et erat forti
Caesar et sum iam
Brutus sic in omnibus
Caesar sic intram


I'd like to thank Prof. Cuppa for contributing this eloquent bit of Latin verse for our consideration. Though it's written in a somewhat elevated and obscure dialect, I for one found the effort of translation most rewarding and the matter of the little eclogue most edifying. I understand there's a surviving fragment from the same MS which is considered by most scholars to be the conclusion of the above poem and which reads as follows:

Flavia sit in omnibus
Flavia sed ici.

[Virgil]

Cool, I've always wanted to learn Latin. I tried on my own. Actually before I joined lit net I kept a course book here at work that I would look through while I had my coffee in the morning. I woulds love to read Virgil and Horace in the original tongue.

Arma virumque cano.

[Schokokeks]

I took a couple years of Latin at university, but only enough so that I can run around crying "O Tempes! O Mores!," a lament that's generally ignored in any language.
Maybe you should try it with "O tempora, o mores !" ;). Though those people ignoring the lament in most cases are those that won't know the difference anyway :D. But you're right, it really is striking that the same phrase still applies today. As well as other features of Roman society: I'm always reminded of the triumph parade Roman imperatores used to glorify themselves with when I see today's politicians celebrating an election allegedly won.

Hihi, it's so funny that everyone seems to remember something about their coursebook :D. It must be a very incising event in school life to be introduced to a new and foreign language that one remembers these small things so well :).

[Petrarch's Love]

Maybe you should try it with "O tempora, o mores !" . Though those people ignoring the lament in most cases are those that won't know the difference anyway .

:blush: see, I knew I shouldn't try any more latin than "vale" when I was up past the witching hour. Maybe I can blame it on spending too much time looking at parallel constructions in Shakespeare to teach my class. Everything has to match! :D



But you're right, it really is striking that the same phrase still applies today. As well as other features of Roman society: I'm always reminded of the triumph parade Roman imperatores used to glorify themselves with when I see today's politicians celebrating an election allegedly won.

Perhaps we need to train political aides to whisper "memento mori" during the victory parades. ;)

[Schokokeks]

:blush: see, I knew I shouldn't try any more latin than "vale" when I was up past the witching hour. Maybe I can blame it on spending too much time looking at parallel constructions in Shakespeare to teach my class. Everything has to match! :D
Given that you are a very nice person, and doing work for your students even at night, you're excused, of course :D.


Perhaps we need to train political aides to whisper "memento mori" during the victory parades. ;)
Yay, good idea ! :D Or maybe there should be an extra profession for that, the memento morists. Would create some jobs at least :D.

[Petrarch's Love]

Yay, good idea ! Or maybe there should be an extra profession for that, the memento morists. Would create some jobs at least .

:lol: I think this thread title should be changed immediately to the Memento Morist Society, and we should all get to work. Then we could all put down previous occupation as memento morist on our CVs and Resumes and confuse the heck out of future employers.

[kilted exile]

After we finished those workbooks ( I think they were the same ones Mir mentioned as I do remember they got their cart stuck in a ditch on the Via Appia) we got to do some stuff by Seneca ahich was interesting, but again I dont remember

[Schokokeks]

:lol: I think this thread title should be changed immediately to the Memento Morist Society, and we should all get to work. Then we could all put down previous occupation as memento morist on our CVs and Resumes and confuse the heck out of future employers.
Yay ! :lol: And in some years time, one of us will have worked out a whole ideology for the memento morists, write a book about it and attract thousands of new members. In another 20 years time, there won't be any politicians anymore, since they were all converted, and the memento morist will rule the planet :alien: :D.

So much my fancy :D, and back-to-topic:
Who's everyone's favourite Roman author ?

Mine are Ovid and Vergil, as I love both their opera magna The Metamorphosis and The Aeneid, as well as Ovid's love poems.

[Virgil]

Who's everyone's favourite Roman author ?

Mine are Ovid and Vergil, as I love both their opera magna The Metamorphosis and The Aeneid, as well as Ovid's love poems.

Mine are Virgil (The Aeneid) and Horace, especially The Odes.

Oh there is a new translation of Virgil's Aeneid out that I have been dying to read. I bought the book and it's waiting to be read. The translation is by Robert Fagles who did a great translation of the Illiad and Oddyssey. It seems to my untrained ear that Fagles really captured the feel of ancient Greek in the Homer translations. I am wondering how he handles Latin. The tranlsation of the Aenied I've read is the Robert Fitzgerald translation, and I had also read Fitzgerald's translations of both Homer epics. I felt Fizgerald did an OK effort on the Homer translations (Fagles surpasses him here) but Fitzgerald did a fabulous translation of Virgil. So we'll eventually see how Fagles's Virgil compares. Here's what I'm talking about:

http://www.amazon.com/Aeneid-Virgil/dp/0670038032/sr=1-1/qid=1169727072/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-6271781-4091822?ie=UTF8&s=books

[Schokokeks]

Oh no, Virgil, I just read your post and noticed again that it's Virgil in English *slapps her forehead*. Though it's Vergilius in Latin and Vergil in German, so there :p.


Oh there is a new translation of Virgil's Aeneid out that I have been dying to read. I bought the book and it's waiting to be read. The translation is by Robert Fagles who did a great translation of the Illiad and Oddyssey. [...] The tranlsation of the Aenied I've read is the Robert Fitzgerald translation, and I had also read Fitzgerald's translations of both Homer epics. I felt Fizgerald did an OK effort on the Homer translations (Fagles surpasses him here) but Fitzgerald did a fabulous translation of Virgil.
That's interesting, the right translation really makes for the pleasure of reading, and there are so many bad ones out there in German...
I've read the Fitzgerald translations of two Homeric epics, too, and I agree with you that there are better ones. I have a German one recommended by my professor that I find all right, but I would love to reread it in a good English translation. Since you name Fagles, I'll try him out, thanks :nod:.
I've never read The Aeneid in English yet, but I'll wait for your comment on which translation to choose after you've read the Fagles version :D.

[Koa]

Vale! O.K., I think that's as much Latin as your getting out of me extempore at nearly midnight.


Hilarious! You deny your intention of speaking Latin by using a Latin expression!!!:lol: ;)

I took five years of Latin at school (compulsory, as it still is in a few kinds of schools in Italy) and forgot every single thing. I'm starting to regret having forgotten so much though. I never considered it a foreign language though, a language is something I can use to communicate with people... I'm not a fan of dead languages.

[bragelonne]

Gaudeo quod hoc in situ tanti Latinarum litterarum amatores sunt. Sed doluit mihi quod nemo Latine locutus est.

[Lily Adams]

I say that I "speak Latin", even though I don't hardly. I am on chapter two in my Latin book, and I am attempting to teach myself, seeing as there are no Latin courses at my High School or at the local community colledge. So all I know is that the word order doesn't matter; it's the ending of the words that tells you what is happening, how to pronounce the vowels and consonants, and a couple words.

Hey! I just figured out what the title of this thread means, and I figured it out without a dictionary. I just thought about it and studied the words for a second... "Latin Lovers Unite". :) I'm happy.

[Whifflingpin]

Lily Adams!! Do you take take your name from the great Lily, author of Lily's "Accidents of Latin Grammar," the standard Latin textbook in English schools from the sixteenth to eightennth centuries?

[Lioness_Heart]

I studied Latin for the first five years of senior school. I kind of wish that i'd kept it on for A-level, but there wasn't enough time with my other subjects. We used the Ecce Romani textbooks, where there were all these stupid stories about Marcus and Sextus and Cornelia, where Sextus kept being chased by wolves and stuff. Then for GCSE we used this other one which was really good. The school only had these really old text-books though, but there was one really good one with different short stories in them, which we used at the end of term in our 'Latin parties' (we had translation competitions for sweets). There were only four of us in our latin class, which was kind of good and kind of not... but we all went about the Virgil revision kind of wrong, because instead of being able to translate it in the exam, we just learnt all these long passages of the Aeneid and their english translations off by heart.

But Latin is a beautiful language. I think that it has helped me in my study of English literature too, because studying Virgil made me very aware of different linguistic techniques. It's reallly helped me in my own writing too.

Everyone should study Latin literature! It is so amazing!! Being able to talk about classical stuff also makes you sound clever :p But there is nothing like being able to read such beautiful literature in the language that it was written in. But not Pliny. There is only so much complaining about old ladies caled Ummidia and gossiping about Regulus whose son has just died that anyone can take.

[bragelonne]

Ultima Cumaei venit iam carminis aetas;
Magnus ab integro saeclorum nascitur ordo.
Iam redit et Virgo, redeunt Saturnia regna,
Iam nova progenies caelo demittitur alto. (Vergilius, Bucolica IV)

Such verses should always be read in Latin :)

[Lily Adams]

Lily Adams!! Do you take take your name from the great Lily, author of Lily's "Accidents of Latin Grammar," the standard Latin textbook in English schools from the sixteenth to eightennth centuries?

Ah! No. I just like the name Lily because it's easy and yet fairly uncommon. It is a Latin name, I believe though, right? But I'm going to look up that book now that you mention it...

[mir]

I studied Latin for the first five years of senior school. I kind of wish that i'd kept it on for A-level, but there wasn't enough time with my other subjects. We used the Ecce Romani textbooks, where there were all these stupid stories about Marcus and Sextus and Cornelia, where Sextus kept being chased by wolves and stuff.

:lol:

We read those books too! Even the Latin teacher finally gave up on them after the sixth story in which the family's carriage was stuck in a ditch. :D

[Lioness_Heart]

:lol:

We read those books too! Even the Latin teacher finally gave up on them after the sixth story in which the family's carriage was stuck in a ditch. :D


:lol: FIVE YEARS OF MARCUS AND SEXTUS!!!!! Have pity on us. But it was incredibly shocking :eek: Cornelia gets married in the second to last book!!!