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keelybug10
12-25-2006, 04:26 PM
I have a question about animal farm.
So the pigs take over the farm and get rid of the himans but in the end they start associating with humans. It says that the animals couldnt tell the pigs from the humans. I am totally confused. So were the pigs really humans the whole time?? :confused:

-keelybug10

juliagoolia
12-26-2006, 11:50 PM
No, the pigs were not humans the whole time. The last few pages of the book are simply showing that the pigs came to act just as the humans did, who in turn acted like pigs. It is all simbolical, and you can choose whether or not the pigs actually transformed into humans or were simply identical to them in their actions. I hope this makes sense. If not, ask more questions and I'll try to answer!

tiarnybabes
01-15-2007, 12:57 PM
Hi, ok imagine it like this........all the animals turned on the humans coz the humans were so cruel. The pigs were at first seen as the main liberators but gradually as the story unfolds they become more and more like the humans, changing rules to suit themselves, getting more and more privileges over the rest of the animals "all animals are equal but some are more equal than others" .....and eventually when the animals looked in the window "from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; it was impossible to say which was which" It means that the humans were totally corrupted with power and greed, and now so too were the pigs - there was no difference between them. Orwell is giving you a glimpse into their souls, past their mere flesh. They were all stinking and rotten inside.

Theres a famous saying, power corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. This is pretty much whats happened to the pigs.

Check out the New World Order, this is the worst power on earth ;)

amapola roja
01-28-2007, 04:50 PM
Why did the other animals start starving though?

Francis Parker
02-02-2007, 03:45 PM
There is an old saying that "we become that which we hate".

Using animals rather than humans to describe this phenomenon helped Blair (Orwell) to tell the story with a clarity he could not have used had he simply used human beings to illustrate the point. I have noticed that several posters on this particular novel thread have made the mistake of assuming that he was discussing the Soviet system- which follows the forms quite closely- but he was being very general in his satire and if we allow ourselves to drop our own self censorship we can see that it also applies to Israel, for example in it's treatment of a new "lower class" the Palestinians after their own treatment at the hands of the National Socialists, or the US in it's treatment of Arabs, or most recently "dissenters", like those who question 911 and the orthodoxy surrounding it or the War in Iraq.

Anyone can become the pigs. No one is exempt from succumbing to the will to power. What he says is to be aware of it, watch what others do, not say and to always be vigilant.