Meeting Of Those Too Young To Drive!!!

[mir]

Calling all under-sixteens!! It's time. The long-awaited convention of those who cannot drive! Come, complain, fantasize about your future cars or how strange old people are! Play. Laugh! Be random! We even have daycare facilities! All are welcome! (except geezers, hem hem you evil sixteen year olds! :p)

[toni]

I'm not an evil 16 year-old!:bawling:
Actually, I am quite a goody-goody..
I dunno how to drive-yet.
Can I join? :D

[mir]

wellllll . . .

:lol: aww, we couldn't leave you out. Come! your location has gained you entry. it obviously understands the viewpoint of the young and carless. ;)

where exactly is that, though? Florida?

[SleepyWitch]

I'm 25 but I can't drive. does that count?

[Taliesin]

Eightteen. But no driving license yet.
*pause*
We feel so old.
*starts slowly lurching towards graveyard*

[Schokokeks]

I'm 25 but I can't drive. does that count?
I'm 19 and I can't drive (having permission but lacking ability) :D.
I wonder, is this a female phenomenon ? :p

[SleepyWitch]

hehe, I don't even have a driving licence and in my case it's a nerd phenomenon :) or possibly a female nerd phenomenon

[Stanislaw]

well, I used to not be able to drive up until about 1 year ago...and then I realized I loved driving...and even bought meself an suv...

...so fear not, driving is fun!

[mir]

. . . dang.

i want to kick Stanislaw out for being able to drive.

but i have fallen in love with his avatar. :blush:!

[alhara]

i´m 17 and don´t have my licease my parents decied i didn´t need to drive and refused to teach me ( so i hopped on a plan and went to finland muhhahah) but the driving age here is 18(so is the drinking age) and so i am technically too young to drive in my current position

[Laindessiel]

*sings* "I am seventeen, going on eighteen......"

In my country, 18 is the legal age to drive, although you can have your student's driver's license at 16. I am seventeen, yeah, and I still haven't ridden a motorcycle (EVEN!) in my entire life yet. Once I turn 18, my dad will send me to a Driving School. But actually, based on the mom's experience, those schools don't actually teach you the real way to drive. They're more concerned of you not bumping their car or scrape a scratch on it. Instead of going towards the middle of the road, they say "You can manage if we just keep on the right. You'll do well." But where is the experience in that?

And besides, it's a hellish experience to drive in my country. People don't follow the rules, drivers are reckless, traffic cops ask huge amounts of money for them to "bail you out" (but they keep it for themselves anyway). Too much traffic also! Philippines won't be Philippines without the issue of traffic.

I am looking forward to the experience brought about by driving and actually having the capability to, but not here in my country.

[alhara]

just curious whats the drinking age in the Philippines

[Schokokeks]

I am seventeen, yeah, and I still haven't ridden a motorcycle (EVEN!) in my entire life yet.
Oh, I thought this thread was committed to cars only. But then I can announce that I'm the proud owner of a motorbike. And yes, that one I candrive :D.


But actually, based on the mom's experience, those schools don't actually teach you the real way to drive. They're more concerned of you not bumping their car or scrape a scratch on it.
Riiiiight, guess who made it through driving school but still managed to bump her parents' car ?? :lol:.

[Laindessiel]

just curious whats the drinking age in the Philippines

Also 18. 18 is quite a liberating age here. In America I think it's 21.



Riiiiight, guess who made it through driving school but still managed to bump her parents' car ?? :lol:.

Oh I CANNOT SURMISE A GUESS......:p

[Laindessiel]

I would someday love to own a Mercedes-Benz. But I think I'm shifting to Renault now because come March next year, Kimi Raikkonen's driving for Renault!!!! Waaaahhhh!!!!! And Fernando Alonso's filling in for Kimi's helm as a McLaren-Mercedes driver. As if Juan Pablo Montoya's flight from F1 isn't bad enough....

I hope Kimi's potential will soar high in his new team. Well, that's a nice thought, considering Renault managed to produce Alonso, the youngest ever to win the Formula One Championship at 23. I am not biased so I will say that Alonso's the next Michael Schumacher. *doing the Alonso-monkey dance*

[alhara]

i´m here with an exchange program and EVERYWHERE (italy germany, finland south america belgium) it is 18 or lower i DID NOT know that (grummbles angerly)

[dramasnot6]

YAY! you put it together. go mir! this is lovely. ok, first on the forum: If you could drive, what sort of car would you have?

[Stanislaw]

i´m here with an exchange program and EVERYWHERE (italy germany, finland south america belgium) it is 18 or lower i DID NOT know that (grummbles angerly)

man, I feel sorry for you...in Canada, 14 to get a learners, 16 to drive, and 18 to be intoxicated.:D

[toni]

wellllll . . .

:lol: aww, we couldn't leave you out. Come! your location has gained you entry. it obviously understands the viewpoint of the young and carless. ;)

where exactly is that, though? Florida?

Yay, I'm in! :D
My location ( In a place full of political buffoons and old farts) has gained me entry? Who would've thought?

Nah, I don't live in Florida..I'm Asian- from the Philippines- it really is a place full of old farts, which justifies what happened yesterday during the last court hearing of............buuuut due to the forum rule that bans us from discussing anything political, I cannot disclose further information.. :D

[Omniscient One]

22. Lerner's Permit and can drive.;)

[Shalot]

I'm imposing upon your thread here, but I thought I would share with you, the story of the day, I got my driver's license:

I was 16. I was not ready. She never did ask me to parallel park and I almost drove right through a stop sign. But I did wait in line for 2 hours at the DMV so I guess that counts for something.

She granted me my license and my dad let me drive the one and only family car home.

Before I got home, however, I was surrounded by cop cars with blue lights and loud sirens. A man darted in and out of traffic trying to get away from those blue lights. In fact, he ran right in front of the car I was nervously driving. I don't really know what happened to that guy, but I almost merged into a mack truck on the interstate on my way home and I wasn't even on the cell phone...

Public transportation is a good thing.

[Nightshade]

well Ive got my provisional liscence ( learners permit) and but have failed my tst twice but am getting ready to take it a 3rd time.
but with the pay as you go £1.50 a mile road tax they want to impose have to ask is it worth it??

[Pensive]

I feel old. I should get the license. Even, without license, there are boys of my age who ride motor bikes and cars. But girls don't. Though, I think if little girls would start driving cars, under abayya, traffic police wouldn't be able to say a word. They can't ask a woman (though inside its a girl but they wouldn't come to know ;)) to get her abayya off. Can they? :p It is really a good way to fool our police.

But oh my parents. They would never let me get my hands on the car, well until I am eighteen. :(

[Madhuri]

I know how to drive :nod: I feel so important when I am amongst such a group where only I know about it, that is, driving. *giving a content smile* *air of self importance* he he he :D I almost feel like saying -- What??? :eek2: You dont know how to drive??? :eek2: thats child's play :p :D

But, I wish to drive a 16-wheel truck, lorry, and a tractor someday...:D

[Virgil]

I know this is going to sound like an old fogey post. But as one of the elder persons here I feel obligated to warn young people about the dangers of driving. Check out statistics in the US for teen drivers:


National Teen Driving Statistics
Motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for teenagers.
16 year-olds have higher crash rates than drivers of any other age.
It is estimated that 16-year-olds are 3 times more likely to die in a motor vehicle crash than the average of all drivers.
3,657 drivers age 15-20 died in car crashes in 2003, making up 14% of all driver involved in fatal crashes, and 18% of all drivers involved in police-reported crashes (NHTSA).
25% of teen drivers killed in 2003 had a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of .08 or greater. A BAC of .08 is the level which all states define drunk driving.
$40.8 billion was the estimated economic impact of auto accidents involving 15-20 year old drivers in 2002 (NHTSA).
Inexperience behind the wheel is the leading cause of teenage crashes.
In 2001, two thirds of teens killed in auto accidents were not wearing seat belts.
Almost half of the crash deaths involving 16-year-old drivers in 2003 occurred when the beginning drivers were driving with teen passengers (IIHS).
Statistics show that 16 and 17-year-old driver death rates increase with each additional passenger (IIHS).
Graduated drivers license programs appear to be making a difference. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety reports that the overall number of 16-year-old drivers fell from 1,084 in 1993 to 938 in 2003 despite an 18% increase in the 16-year-old population.
http://www.rmiia.org/Auto/Teens/Teen_Driving_Statistics.htm

The very first sentence needs repeating: "Motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for teenagers."

There are obvious reasons: less skill, lack of experience in recognizing upcoming danger, impulsiveness of youth, joking and clowning around (which is another way of saying lack of maturity). I remember my first year of driving, I was around 22 I think, there were a couple of incidents that could have led to a tragic accident because of me. One was a combination of clowning around and impulsiveness, and the other was a lack of experience at a complicated intersection. And I was 22, which is older than most young drivers. By the grace of God they were only near misses and non accidents. But I could have easily have died in either. Last year we had a young lit net member (I can't recall his name off the top of my head) die in a car crash. I think the car flipped over. And recently we've had a lit net member (I don't want to mention names) whose young cousin (17 years old) died in a car crash.

It is my opinion that young people should not start to drive until their early to mid twenties. However that isn't always possible, especially in rural areas. So if you must drive, please be cautious and understand the dangers.

Sorry to be a downer.

[dramasnot6]

you could never sound like an old fogey! thank you for the practical, useful advice. but its just nice to fantasize a little, ya know?

[mir]

yeah. Virg, you're definitely right - i like the laws in some states that say you have to have a certain GPA to be allowed to drive. i figure if you're committed enough to something hard like school to get good grades, you might be more balanced and think things through more fully when you get to drive.

Still. i want a gold electric-powered car with blue sparkles in the paint, racing stripes, and a GPS!! pleeeeease, Santa? :D

[Shannanigan]

hehe...

well, in Cali at 15 and a half you can get a permit, and after 6 months you can get a licence, so 16 is the minimum licence age...but I moved away at 16 and had not yet really bothered trying driving (no need).

When I moved here (St. Thomas), I thought that there was NO WAY I would EVER drive here...the roads are crazy, there are huge potholes, and people drive like maniacs. I went all through high school with no licence, determined to move back to California after graduation and get a licence there.

Graduation approached, I turned 18, I decided to stay here for college...so I suddenly had to learn to drive. I didn't mind so much when my mother and step-dad gave me a car they had bought off a friend for $400. It was beat up, but it was mine...and it was a stick. Now I had to learn to drive standard, ugh.

I learned. It was cool, but I think driving is overrated among teens...once I started driving I realized how much I hated doing it...

[Taliesin]

Also 18. 18 is quite a liberating age here. In America I think it's 21.

You know, we read that last number as 12.

[Laindessiel]

It is my opinion that young people should not start to drive until their early to mid twenties. However that isn't always possible, especially in rural areas. So if you must drive, please be cautious and understand the dangers.

Sorry to be a downer.

No not a downer, Uncle Virg, more like a concerned person. Sweet...:thumbs_up Thanks for the caution-info on driving.

It is considerable, yes, but I don't think that it is fitting that young people should start driving in their early twenties. It is considerable, but in my opinion, it depends on the maturity of the person going behind the wheel. Say, in America, one person is 16, and this teen is excited, ofcourse when he starts driving, he brags, he experiments and so more likely gets into some sort of accident because he ignores and just throws all the safety rules set for him. Not only he lacks experience, he lacks knowledge and skills; in short, he's not yet matured enough. On the other hand, this other 16ner learns to drive, knows all the safety rules, puts on the seatbelt, and abides by them. I can say that not only he has awareness and knowledge on the matter but he is responsible enough to handle this task, too. It's the same case with being in your early twenties. If you're not developed in the mind regarding the matter, then might as well throw the steering wheel away until you're fully prepared for it.

It's all about maturity. That's my opinion. But I can see your point, Uncle Virg. :)

[Shannanigan]

I know that there are a bunch of insurance companies that offer cheaper insurance if you have good grades :D (lucky me...and hopefully some of you soon-to-be drivers :D) Supposedly statistics do show that teens with good grades get in less accidents...probably because of the maturity thing you all are talking about (you know there had to be a reason for insurance companies to give discounts like that)

[Nightshade]

I feel old. I should get the license. Even, without license, there are boys of my age who ride motor bikes and cars. But girls don't. Though, I think if little girls would start driving cars, under abayya, traffic police wouldn't be able to say a word. They can't ask a woman (though inside its a girl but they wouldn't come to know ;)) to get her abayya off. Can they? :p It is really a good way to fool our police.. :(

Abayah?? or niquab?
mind you I do see how that would change matters much

[dramasnot6]

I know that there are a bunch of insurance companies that offer cheaper insurance if you have good grades :D (lucky me...and hopefully some of you soon-to-be drivers :D) Supposedly statistics do show that teens with good grades get in less accidents...probably because of the maturity thing you all are talking about (you know there had to be a reason for insurance companies to give discounts like that)

i would think it would also be the concentration skills. They must figure if kids can do schoolwork for hours on end without distraction the same must apply to driving. And also they are probably less likely to "party" if they are so busy with their work. thats interesting though, a new incentive to raise my GPA....:) :thumbs_up

[Lily Adams]

I'm fourteen, and I seriously doubt if I'll ever drive a car of my own until I'm eighteen or possibly older. I just don't need or want a car of my own. I live across the street from my school, and I don't go anywhere much, and the places I do go to, I could just use one of my parent's car or ride a bike. I don't much care for the new cars anyway, the energy-efficient cars are alright, I guess, but they're just not, well, pretty. If I was rich I would drive this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/_kit_/carriagemycar.jpg
or
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/_kit_/rollsroycesilverghost.jpg

I'd have a chauffer, of course, for the Rolls Royce. I wouldn't actually "drive" the carriage, either. I'd have a driver!

[dramasnot6]

How classy of you Lily! Those are just lovely choices.Im glad to have a fellow 14 year old around who is so sophisticated!:D maybe you'll be a good influence on me...i need to work on that sort of thing...

[Pensive]

Abayah?? or niquab?
mind you I do see how that would change matters much

Oh well, for a little bit of trick Abayya is enough, but Niqaab is even better. With my face hidden, nobody would ever recognize that it is a thirteen year old inside. YAY! :p

[mir]

ssh, Penseive! Virgil may be lurking! O_O

:lol: just kidding. uh, i don't . . . suppose you have any Niquaabs to spare? :D

[Pensive]

ssh, Penseive! Virgil may be lurking! O_O

:lol: just kidding. uh, i don't . . . suppose you have any Niquaabs to spare? :D

Hmmm......not really. I will have to buy one for myself as well first of all. But sure if you come to Pakistan, you will get to find many over here - Niqaabs with beads over them and of different colours. There are some fashionable niqaabs as well which makes me wonder what's the need of niqaab like them...

[Laindessiel]

What is a Niquaab?

Blame my ignorance.

[Nightshade]

Its the face cover....
seriously with beads pensy? as in beads across your face? guh I wouldnt like that but then again on the rare rare rare ( only once in my life so far and that was in egypt and only for 20 minutes) occaions I cover my face ( when I get dolled up at home to go to a girls only party) I just throw the end of my scarf over my face and look throgh that. But yeah fashionable niqquab seems to be redundant doesnt it?

[Madhuri]

I have never been to an all girls party, I wonder what it will be like. I never ever had a chance like this for some real girly talk, what do the girls talk about at such parties??

[mir]

i'm asking too! :D i go to an all girls school - but i don't ever get to talk like this either! it's really fun!

[dramasnot6]

i probably couldnt answer for the norm of girls parties...my friends are kinda eccentric. I have been to a few "typical" parties though and they usually consist of stabbing people in the back(verbally), and using very limited vocabulary and ghastly grammer to rave about boys, music, and clothes. Luckily this thread is blessed with wonderfully intellegent people who discuss much better things!:D

[Pensive]

Its the face cover....
seriously with beads pensy? as in beads across your face? guh I wouldnt like that but then again on the rare rare rare ( only once in my life so far and that was in egypt and only for 20 minutes) occaions I cover my face ( when I get dolled up at home to go to a girls only party) I just throw the end of my scarf over my face and look throgh that. But yeah fashionable niqquab seems to be redundant doesnt it?
Yes, I am very serious.

I don't think so that there is even any use of niqaabs. Well, unless you count a nine/ten year old girl want to drive a car. :p And of course, these can be used to hide and take away things from the market.

[Lily Adams]

How classy of you Lily! Those are just lovely choices.Im glad to have a fellow 14 year old around who is so sophisticated!:D maybe you'll be a good influence on me...i need to work on that sort of thing...

Oh! Thank you! *Curtsey* I have been secretly marveling at your amazing vocabulary, so there you go! Maybe we will teach each other something. You can teach me your gift of words, and I shall teach you sophistication! How about that!

[dramasnot6]

MY vocabulary?:blush: You're talented at flattery too! I'm merely a composition of inconherent jargon gathered from years of eavesdropping at dinner parties. But thank ye kindly. I would be honored to help such a polite young lady with anything!:D I've always been curious to how to pour tea correctly...there never seemed to be a difference in how people do it....

[mir]

how to pour tea: Mir's Guide

1. hold teapot in one hand
2. drink from teapot spout
3. smile at people

[Laindessiel]

That was something Mir! although I might add:

After smiling, let out a big noisy fart.

Then smile innocently.

:p :p :p

[dramasnot6]

Ooo I feel like such a lady now.Thanks mir and lain! Who knew i had tea pouring right in the first place? :p Does spilling it over the guests pants count as the last one?

Oh, and dear Lily, i have started a Vocabulary thread on your behalf! I hope you enjoy it!:D

[Lily Adams]

Really?! That's so kind of you.
*shuffles off to go read the lovely thread*