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Jtolj
10-28-2006, 12:31 AM
So, end this life of mine, a place
I can no longer find solace. I seek
it's end so that solace I may find
in it's absence. Farewell giver of
truth but mostly lies. Farewell
giver of peace but mostly conflict.
Farewell giver of order but mostly
chaos. Farewell giver of light but
mostly dark. Farewell giver of
happiness but mostly sadness.
Farewell giver of honor but mostly
shame.Farewell giver of love but mostly
hate. I fear not the reaper, but
rather welcome him... or her.
Should a poem like this that relies on theme rather than words be considered in a greater range?
What do you think of the contrasting styles between theme and wordplay which occur in the world of poetry? I personal do not like overly wordy poems unless it is a word joke. I think theme is superior in getting its point across with words serving as representations of theme rather the words being the vocal point.

Jtolj
10-28-2006, 12:37 AM
I do Wonder
Winter's snow a upon. The sweet
things around I like, and make me
think it does. I wonder. I wonder
about where it came from. Where it
ends. Where I end. Where came from
I did. For all the snow knows the
Glenson. Ruf. Ruf. Ruf. Why?
Wonder. Wonder I do. Ruf. Ruf. Ruf.
Ruf. Arr, matey. Wonder. Wonder.
Wonder. Wonder. Wonder. Wonder.
Wonder. Wonder. Wonder I do.

The Suicide Note
So, end this life of mine, a place
I can no longer find solace. I seek
it's end so that solace I may find
in it's absence. Farewell giver of
truth but mostly lies. Farewell
giver of peace but mostly conflict.
Farewell giver of order but mostly
chaos. Farewell giver of light but
mostly dark. Farewell giver of
happiness but mostly sadness.
Farewell giver of honor but mostly
shame. Farewell giver of love but mostly
hate. I fear not the reaper, but
rather welcome him... or her.

ktd222
11-02-2006, 04:41 AM
So, end this life of mine, a place
I can no longer find solace. I seek
it's end so that solace I may find
in it's absence. Farewell giver of
truth but mostly lies. Farewell
giver of peace but mostly conflict.
Farewell giver of order but mostly
chaos. Farewell giver of light but
mostly dark. Farewell giver of
happiness but mostly sadness.
Farewell giver of honor but mostly
shame.Farewell giver of love but mostly
hate. I fear not the reaper, but
rather welcome him... or her.
Should a poem like this that relies on theme rather than words be considered in a greater range?
What do you think of the contrasting styles between theme and wordplay which occur in the world of poetry? I personal do not like overly wordy poems unless it is a word joke. I think theme is superior in getting its point across with words serving as representations of theme rather the words being the vocal point.

Where are these ‘wordy’ poems you talk of? I agree with you that any poem in which the words seems forced makes for an unpleasant experience, but who are you trying to categorize here? I don’t consider any of my favorite poets as being ‘wordy’. And I consider them all as having something to say, and something to share with me. The poem you posted has a theme, yes, but lacks feeling and emotion, and I should soon forget it after this post. You’re not writing anything innovative. This is the type of poem I write when I try to recapture the moment.