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inuzrule
10-21-2006, 08:19 PM
I am an agnostic, which means that I neither believe or disbelieve in God or the Bible, but whenever I look over Genesis (my mother's Christian), I laugh to myself.

'Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"'

Either God is one of many Gods, or he likes talking in the royal we. Even further into the sentence, he talks about a tree of life, which will bring about Immortality, and make humans into Gods. So, really, God fears compitition, AND he isn't that far from humans himself.

Comments on this are welcome.

Virgil
10-21-2006, 08:33 PM
Can you quote the chapter and line that is from? It doesn't ook familiar to me.

inuzrule
10-21-2006, 08:54 PM
Can you quote the chapter and line that is from? It doesn't look familiar to me.
It's from the third chapter, twenty-second line. Look over it.

Virgil
10-21-2006, 09:17 PM
"Us" can be referrin to satan. The snake was there just a few lines above. And why can't he be referring to the other angels as well? Satan is a fallen angel.

subterranean
10-22-2006, 07:19 PM
I am an agnostic, which means that I neither believe or disbelieve in God or the Bible, but whenever I look over Genesis (my mother's Christian), I laugh to myself.

'Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"'

Either God is one of many Gods, or he likes talking in the royal we. Even further into the sentence, he talks about a tree of life, which will bring about Immortality, and make humans into Gods. So, really, God fears compitition, AND he isn't that far from humans himself.

Comments on this are welcome.


Say, before you decided to laugh at it, did you check out some sources which contain explanation about the book of Genesis? Or you just take it as it is and just simply laugh at it? If yes, suppose you'd also find book like Bhagavad-Gita as a funny stuff.

Cheers

bhekti
10-23-2006, 04:54 PM
I am an agnostic, which means that I neither believe or disbelieve in God or the Bible, but whenever I look over Genesis (my mother's Christian), I laugh to myself.

'Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"'

Either God is one of many Gods, or he likes talking in the royal we. Even further into the sentence, he talks about a tree of life, which will bring about Immortality, and make humans into Gods. So, really, God fears compitition, AND he isn't that far from humans himself.

Comments on this are welcome.


Hello, I'd like to make some comment on the structure of the group of sentences you quoted from the Genesis.Here's the quote:

"The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

It is said that the man has become like God. It means that the man is not God because being like God is not the same as being God. Now, in what way is man like God? It is said that the man is like God in the way that the man now knows Good and Evil. Thus is what we can know from the first sentence.

Then comes the second sentence: He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever. But, didn't the man do that already? The fact (drawn by the whole passage of Genesis 3) is that the man has reached out his hand and taken and eaten from the tree of life. Hence, the objective of God's following actions (banishing the man and guarding the tree) is now more to deprive the man from the consequence of what the man has done, from immortality. God deprives the man from living forever. Why?

From the narrative of the Bible, we are informed about the lifes of the race of man, race of a being who is like God, knowing Good and Evil. It is not a nice story (just like the story of our history, I believe). For although it is plain to the man the truth of Good and Evil (so that the man is without excuse), the man wickedly supresses the truth. What would happen to the world, if the man, with such characteristic, live forever? (Imagine the worst, cruelest men and women ever lived can't die). Seen from this angle, isn't death quite a resolve?

Isn't it better if the man dies?

bazarov
10-23-2006, 05:28 PM
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'Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"'




You'll get mortal if you eat from tree of life, like Adam and Eva did. God created them immortal, but Satan in snake-form made them mortal.

mtpspur
10-31-2006, 03:55 AM
I always thought the Lord's use of the 'we" word was referring to the Trinity--Father (who commisions), the Son (who peforms) and the Holy Spirit (who proclaims). Never thought He was talking to Satan in that verse and upon thinking it over still don't but that's just me. Rule of thumb in Bible reading--if it glorifies God and takes away pride from men it's headed down the right track.