Newspeak

[RoseCat]

Hello,

I've read the 1984 several times. I would like to know some more about Newspeak, it's function and construction. Where can I read more about that?

I hope you'll be so nice to advice .... thx.

[mir]

did you read the appendix at the end? it explains all about it. (i think it's the most interesting part of the book! :D)

[RoseCat]

... of course. (not funny) ;)

The appendix will not do. Not explicite enough. And I want something not from Orwell (Politics and the English Language I've read), but from the third person.
Besides, the function of Newspeak is clear enough.

I am looking 4 something like a theoretical essay about Newspeak; maybe a comparation between the language of Nacist regime, Eastern European words like 'kolhoz' and the Newspeak. Perhaps linguistic analysis of those constructions.

You know, that stuff old proffesseurs write. (just teasing you).

I guess I am not able to express precise enough, since English is not my native l.

Thx 4 trying 2 help (or just trying 2 make fun of me? - nevermind, at least I got an answer),

wish U all a nice day....

[mir]

no i wasn't trying to make fun of you!! i really do think that appendix is the most interesting part!!!

OLD PROFESSOR!? why i have never been so offended in my . . .
just kidding! :lol: i'm still in school

i don't know about any essays on Newspeak, though . . . maybe look it up on Wikipedia? that seems to have everything.

[RoseCat]

Hello again,

I've already spent an afternoon on wikipedia and newspeakdictionary.com and it got me some quite usefull printouts to read.

About a year ago there was an Australian guy here at online-literature with a similar problem to mine. I wish I came up with that earlier!!!

mir: It was not ment like you are the proffessor; I wrote it BECAUSE you are 'still in school'. And it was not to offend, just a little tease. . . Sorry... ;)

[sdblackhawk]

hello RoseCat

When it comes to Newspeak you realy cann't read anything you just need to see that it is all about control. Big Brother has to control his people to stay in power.

Hope I was some help

[poe13]

You know its kind of funny new speak reminds me of internet acronyms that millions of people use today. Orwell is ringing a bell and it is just amazing how orwell wrote this book in 1948 and here it is 2006 and he is hitting it right on the nose. read on!:yawnb:

[RoseCat]

I agree, poe13.

And another thing, the totalitarism of modern days with its telescreens not only in every room but in every pocket (!) is very successfully changing our language abilities. Words are getting shorter and expressions fewer.

How did Orwell managed to hit it on the nose? Reading A. Burgesse's "1985" might give a hint, though I can't agree with the statement that Orwell's book is a comedy.

To answer my own question, I found V. Klemperer's "The language of the Third Reich" and Erich Fromm's "The Fear of Freedom". Haven't read yet, too bussy with other things, but it's on the top of my reading wish-list...

[glassangel]

No way

:smash:

[glassangel]

RoseCat,

Thomas Pynchon wrote an introduction for a recent publication of 1984. I haven't read it (I'm not going to pay the price of a new book for one I've already read, just to read the introduction), but I understand it's regarded as noteworthy.