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bettywalsh
09-29-2006, 11:16 PM
Other than Aslan from The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, can anyone provide examples of characters in literature who have died and been resurrected? Not looking for near death or incorrectly assumed death, nor reincarnation but characters who died and then came back to life as themselves. Thoughts?
Virgil
09-29-2006, 11:22 PM
First thing that pops into my mind is D.H. Lawrence's The Man Who Died. Really good short novel.
higley
09-30-2006, 12:07 AM
zombies D:
Oh but seriously, the only thing I can think of is Butler from the third Artemis Fowl book.
catcat24
09-30-2006, 12:28 AM
I can't remember if Gandalf technically DIES when he kills the Balrog, but when he comes back he says that he strayed out of thought and time and "Naked I was sent back". Sure sounds like he died and came back.
catcat24
09-30-2006, 12:29 AM
sorry no explanation to that post, I was talking about the "Lord of the Rings" for those not familiar.
Idril
09-30-2006, 10:34 AM
I can't remember if Gandalf technically DIES when he kills the Balrog, but when he comes back he says that he strayed out of thought and time and "Naked I was sent back". Sure sounds like he died and came back.
That's who I was going to mention as well. That's a difficult one, I do think he really "died" as much as a Maia can die, but being Maia, he's one of the "Powers", the god/angel type beings that watch over Middle-earth and I don't know if their spirits can ever really be extinquished but his body was certainly destroyed. In one of Tolkien's letters he talks at great length about this but the main gist of it is that yes, Gandalf did indeed die, that through his sacrifice he "was accepted, and enhanced, and returned".
Whifflingpin
09-30-2006, 01:00 PM
What is death?
Ged & Arran in "The Farthest Shore" by Ursula le Guin?
Ooojah & Wotsit in the last of Pullman's Dark Materials trilogy?
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DoinIt4Soul
10-02-2006, 04:15 PM
Jesus Christ -
MDalloway112
10-04-2006, 12:47 PM
Jesus Christ, indeed.
Also, I can think of a number of stories/books/epics where a character journeys into the land of the dead or a land beyond mortality, etc. but re-emerges mortal/still alive/reborn. For instance, Gilgamesh.
culturalstudies
10-08-2006, 05:57 PM
Life and Death seem hardly connected...Can we say Gandalf was dying in a Dimension and at the same time was living in an another Dimension? LOL I think I am totally confused....:crash:
holograph
10-09-2006, 12:22 AM
the first thing that came into my head was sydney carto from a tale fo two cities. but it was a metaphorical resurrection.
mtpspur
10-09-2006, 02:50 AM
Not quite sure about this but I got the impression John Carter 'died' in A Princess of Mars by Edgar Rice Burroughs and Ulyess Paxton in The Master Mind of Mars--as least they are seen viewing their old bodies before their advents to Mars.
Whifflingpin
10-09-2006, 04:47 AM
The examples given so far do not seem to meet the OP's intention - although a little clarification might be helpful, Bettywalsh.
Apart from fantasy/myth/science fiction formats, are there examples in literature were a character returns from the dead? (OK, I accept that may instantly put the story into the fantasy section, but, I mean in an otherwise realistic setting.)
Could such a story work? How could the author handle the experience of death? What would the effect of having died be on the character? Would other people in the story know of the experience, and if so what?
The difficulty seems well enough expressed in Eliot's "Prufrock," (accepting that he is really talking about something else.)
"And would it have been worth it, after all,
After the cups, the marmalade, the tea,
Among the porcelain, among some talk of you and me,
Would it have been worth while,
To have bitten off the matter with a smile,
To have squeezed the universe into a ball
To roll it toward some overwhelming question,
To say: “I am Lazarus, come back from the dead,
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all”--
If one, settling a pillow by her head,
Should say: “That is not what I meant at all.
That is not it, at all.”"
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Fat29
10-10-2006, 04:41 AM
The Tibetan literature has quite a number of Dalai Lamas that have passed away and were reborn. They could recollect their past lives with quite good accuracy and were supposedly tested and found to be true. If rebirth constitute returning after death (ie the decay of the current body), then these cases of rebirth could add up to quite a number.
Leelie
10-10-2006, 06:55 AM
Jesus Christ, indeed.
I don't think Jesus came back "as himself", since nobody could recognize him anymore, etc. It was rather a symbolic resurrection than an actual one.
sybilline
10-10-2006, 09:49 AM
The first thing that pops into my mind are the mariners in "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner" who die under the curse of the "Life-in-Death", a kind of strange, fantastic, skeleton shape which the mariner fancies. After the mariner's redemption, the dead men move again, as if it had been a dream (v. 331-334). It is a metaphor, symbolizing the mariner's revival and his ability to love again.
bettywalsh
10-15-2006, 01:47 PM
Great contributions - thanks. I especially like MDalloway112's suggestion of Gilgamesh and those who've walked in the land of the dead and returned. Sybilline's suggestion of the Mariner is also a good example of the kind of resurrection character that I'm seeking.
In response to Whifflingpin's request for clarifiction - this all started because I'm having an ongoing debate with a friend of mine re: The Chronicles of Narnia being a fictional study in support of Christianity. Though of the christian persuasion myself, I struggle with that hypothesis which seems to be too heavily based on Aslan's resurrection (imho) and counter to C.S. Lewis' stated intent. My big question is that I don't understand why the Chronicles of Narnia - of all the resurrection/rebirth stories out there - is considered to be such a strong thesis in support of Christianity, since (at least the ones with which I am familiar) all the characters come back to "do good" and/or "fight evil" - at least on an individual level? I'd be interested in hearing other's perspectives on that topic.
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