PDA

View Full Version : Help



Stanislaw
12-07-2003, 02:47 AM
I am trying to right a book on how economics have changed over the years. It will take a while before the book is done, right now I am gathering info.

Does anyone know of any quotations that deal with economics, pas or present. Any body's two bits on economics. I am looking for stuff that I could use.

fayefaye
12-07-2003, 03:20 AM
WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU WANT THAT??!!!
but yes, I know Robbins[an economist i guess] defn of economics by heart. TRAGIC I KNOW.
'economics is the social science that deals with human behaviour as a relationship between unlimited ends and scarce means with alternative uses with which to satisfy them' [or at least I think that's it]
It's what everyone goes by in Keynesian econs, but i'd really like to know WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT??!!! I can easily get a lot of others, if you give me a good reason why i should give em to you.

Stanislaw
12-07-2003, 03:22 AM
I am just looking for filler for my book. I'll give credit where credit is due, when I am done.

fayefaye
12-07-2003, 03:25 AM
why are you writing a book on economics, I mean. what are you studying?

Stanislaw
12-07-2003, 03:29 AM
This is more of a hobby, it started in social, and then from my own curiosity, I enjoy studying ancient cultures, and have finally desided to study modern. I then will compile my findings and hopefully publish a book.

Jay
12-09-2003, 12:03 PM
ewww, economy... know of other things worth writing about, but it's your choice after all...

Stanislaw
12-09-2003, 10:25 PM
I have just started pestering coperations about what they feel their role is, so far I am not having much cooperation.

Also A friend of mine has invited me to co-auther a book on philosophy, I am in an odd situ, right now.

Isagel
12-10-2003, 03:49 AM
A little qoute on ecomonimcs and politics:

When I gave food to the poor, they called me a saint.
When I asked why the poor were hungry, they called me a communist.
-- Dom Helder Camara Brazilian Roman Catholic archbishop, author,
& Nobel Peace Prize nominee

Stanislaw
12-10-2003, 11:33 PM
Thanks! That is a good one.

crisaor
12-16-2003, 05:10 PM
"We'll all be dead in the long run."
"In Economics everything is possible, except avoiding the consecuences."

Both by Keynes.

DumbLikeAPoet
12-24-2003, 01:08 AM
I have a book with quotes on just about every topic.....I'm almost positive it has quotes on economics.....Only problem is that the book is in Ohio and I'm in New Mexico. If I remember I'll bring it back with me after Christmas.

Jonus

Stanislaw
12-25-2003, 01:25 AM
That would be great.

The book has started slowly, I am stalling a bit, december is such a crazy month.

MacBeth
01-06-2004, 06:27 PM
Try looking for quotes from Adam Smith

crisaor
01-07-2004, 05:09 PM
Yeah, look for the one about the invisible hand, it's hilarious.

Stanislaw
01-10-2004, 09:59 PM
The invisible hand is such a crazy idea.

fayefaye
01-11-2004, 05:39 AM
The price mechanism? Why? It works. It just isn't funny. Well, I buy stuff then two weeks later it's half price because of after Christmas sales. That's funny, just not ha-ha funny. More 'well now I'm broke,' I think I'll kick myself funny. Stan, I didn't give you more quotes because I don't want to encourage somebody who spends their spare time on econs -sorry-. Marx said 'Economics is the science of production' getting more quotes would require me to put in a bit of effort and, to be brutally honest, the world doesn't need more economics books. Sorry, I have a moral obligation as an economics student to say this -Get a life. man alive! I'd rather read a book on aubergine wallpaper than economics! Can't you write about something else? Please? Sorry for being so rude... I just HAD to say it.

crisaor
01-11-2004, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by fayefaye
And to be brutally honest, the world doesn't need more economics books. Sorry, I have a moral obligation as an economics student to say this -Get a life. man
It doesn't need more economics books? What about economics students?

fayefaye
01-12-2004, 07:56 AM
lol. What would you have me study instead?

crisaor
01-12-2004, 03:31 PM
Nothing else, really. I was just surprised with the way you talked about economics being an economics student. :confused:

fayefaye
01-13-2004, 05:57 AM
I always find a way to despise the things I study. :D Some of them, anyway.

crisaor
01-24-2004, 11:41 AM
So, faye, do you suscribe to any economist views in particular?

fayefaye
01-29-2004, 06:37 AM
Not really. I have to study Keynesian economics. It's boring as hell, but some of it works on logic, at least. I hate it though-partially because it works so much on assumption, and mostly because it involves a lot of government intervention stuff. And the way they teach it, it's just taken for granted that the government MUST be right. I hate that. Like you're just supposed to take the theory behind government policy that they shove down your throat and swallow. If you disagree with it, they'll tell you you're wrong; and that REAAALLY sh*ts me. Aside from that, I think the economic problem is by and large a societal problem. Society's ideology. Right now I'm blaming society for just about everything. I have this theory going that civilisation brainwashes us into being uncontented with what we have, to spur on human progress with our work. I didn't WANT anything for Christmas. But I was supposed to. So I could spur on the progress of production and economic growth. Fulfil my desires with material possessions. I know I make crazy megalomaniac, narcissistic, materialistic jokes sometimes, [which nobody at this forum ever get] but that stuff really DOES sicken me, when you get down to it.

crisaor
01-29-2004, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by fayefaye
Not really. I have to study Keynesian economics. It's boring as hell, but some of it works on logic, at least. I hate it though-partially because it works so much on assumption, and mostly because it involves a lot of government intervention stuff. And the way they teach it, it's just taken for granted that the government MUST be right. I hate that. Like you're just supposed to take the theory behind government policy that they shove down your throat and swallow. If you disagree with it, they'll tell you you're wrong; and that REAAALLY sh*ts me.
I really like Keynes. It's one of the few theories around that still makes some sense. From where I see it, it isn't that the government is always right (and I do have experience in that department to say quite the opposite, believe me), but that the "market" will always be wrong in its assumptions and subsequent actions. Again, this should be clear to any economics student with a good memory/history background (something that doesn't abound too much in my country, for some reason :mad: ) .

Originally posted by fayefaye
Aside from that, I think the economic problem is by and large a societal problem. Society's ideology. Right now I'm blaming society for just about everything. I have this theory going that civilisation brainwashes us into being uncontented with what we have, to spur on human progress with our work. I didn't WANT anything for Christmas. But I was supposed to. So I could spur on the progress of production and economic growth. Fulfil my desires with material possessions. I know I make crazy megalomaniac, narcissistic, materialistic jokes sometimes, [which nobody at this forum ever get] but that stuff really DOES sicken me, when you get down to it.
Yeah, I get that sometimes. It goes off from time to time, luckily. ;)

fayefaye
02-08-2004, 05:07 AM
You study Keynes, cris?

fayefaye
02-08-2004, 05:08 AM
wait, what's your country?

crisaor
02-08-2004, 06:44 PM
Not right now. I've studied some of it in the past. But I really like his theories. I doubt that capitalism would've endured this much without Keynes's ideas.
My country, on the other hand, has been studying quite the opposite ideas (monetarism, school of chicago, anything with a neoliberal air to it). You can read about it in the newspaper. The IMF is getting upset beacuse of all the money they may not get because of our debt default. Chances are, there's a lot of people in your country with bonds of our debt. And to think that we were considered as the "best student" by the IMF in the 90's.... :rolleyes:

Yeroptok
02-18-2004, 06:08 AM
If you are planning on writing a book on economics my first suggestion is to look for the more classical books on capitalism and communism. Those two systems are a good start regardless of what you believe in terms of economics.

You definately want to actually try to look essay's on economics on the internet. I have read a few good essays on economics recently and finding where they are getting there resources from is always a good start.

Now for the actually ability you have of writing a well formed book on economics at your age and education. I would actually advise you to just keep a notebook of your idea's until you get a bit more life experience. As well if you have the chance take a few economics courses in post secondary to make sure your up to speed with current economic trends. While you do have some good idea's you may lack the overall evidence to support it fully where you are now.