the comepetition to tyranny

[buttery walnut]

In the story we are forced to believe that Naploeon is the evil character .
But if you keep thinking about it the animals really had no way out because
if Snowball the fellow boar had succeded in winning the election don't you think the same thing would have happened?i believe that Snowball would be come corrupt too despite the difference in character between the two young boars.i believe it is knowledge that corrupted Napoleon to become the tyrant we portray him to be.think is because i think that the smarter ones are always those who seek for power.Do you agree? please give me your opinion about this statement.

[buttery walnut]

come one people 3 days and no reply ugh !!!!!!!!!! :rage: :mad: :banana:

[rabid reader]

Snowball was different from Napoleon right from the star. It was easy to see that Snowball was true to the fundmental princapals of Anamialism from the start. In Snowball's world he would have had the power of the people, which is a volitile power that can be taken away at a whim. If Napoleon hadn't stolen the farm from the people and Snowball was elected, Anamialism may have succeeded.

Remember it was Snowball's desire to use the windmill to generate electricity while Napoleon only used it for storage. Snowball wish for animal retirement, drew up the seven commandments, duge up the skull of Old Major for the constant reminder of the struggle, and Snowball fought bravely in the Battle of Cowshed, where Napoleon the warrior could not be seen.

The two leaders had two different Utopias in mind.

[ruby_ray610]

Okay, it is true that the character Snowball may have followed the same path eventually, but let us not forget the allegory of this fairy story. Snowballs character was related directly to Trotsky who was over taken by Starlin. (forgive if i spell badly). So if Snowball continued to reign ,it would have broken the allegory. Napolien was always supposed to be the tyrant of the story, no one else, but it was a great tale in the form of the ideology of socialism being a 'utopian' idea, but in reality utopia dosn't exist. The ideas of distopia is presented in the allegory and really give a person something to think about, don't they?

[buttery walnut]

thanks loads 4 ur replies
hope there will be more soon

[factferret]

There are two good reasons for reading ANIMAL FARM (aside from enjoyment of the book itself). The first is that it is a succeinct statement of Sovier history from the revolution to WWII. Napoleon is obviously Stalin, and Snowball is obviously Trotsky. Napoleon's showtrials, with confessions, mirror Stalin's. The change in the slogan of the revolution from "all animals are equal" mirror's Stalin's change of the Marxists slogan "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" to "From each according to his ability to each according to his work", which was the justifacation to the enrichment of the Communist bureaucrats at the expense of the workers. Now that the Soviet Union is no more, the second reason is probably more valid. The political scientists George Michels, in about 1905, developed "The iron law of Oligarchy. This states that no matter how democratic the intentions or the formal constitution, any complex organization degenerates into a self-serving and self perpetuating oligarchy. This is because the complexity of the organization requires bureaucracy, and bureaucracy is inherently oligarchic.

[mikhaela1983]

Thanks Factferrit, I have just finished reading Animal Farm and found your post to be most helpful.

[Homework_HELP]

hey, do u know where i could find a good site that could connect the characters to figures in the war??
im only in 8th grade and im reading animal farm. i have to do a report on it and i need help. none of my other class mates read the book they all read other classics so i need to find some one to help who has read the book. my project is due in 2 days so i need help ASAP!!!!

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Does any one know a few of the best themes and motifs of the book? i need to add them to my report.

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HELPFULL HINT:
If you need to seach for information about the author seach Eric Blair. George Orwell is only his pen name. His real name is Eric Blair. He has also writen anther book im reading called 1984. Its pretty good so far but im not too well into it yet.
Well, good luck enjoy the book!

[Homework_HELP]

I found a website that really hepled for those of you who are doing reports on Animal farm it's:
Cliffnotes.com
it really helped me, it made character connections and everything. well, good luck!!

[Homework_HELP]

Hey, has anyone read Orwell's other book 1984 and finished it??
i have to do a report on it next semester. i want to get a head start.
NO HURRY, LOL :p