View Full Version : Care = Greed x Lust
WX6[ck]
11-02-2003, 05:51 PM
Do you care
if i die?
Would you care
if you didnt know me?
You think you care
And thats all you know
But i make you happy
But i help you when your down
But i show you new pleasures
Thats why you care.
This poem is about care. This poem is about greed and lust. You only care about someone because they make you happy. Think about it.
No, people themselves don't necessarily make me happy. I care about people because I want to, it's innate, I can't turn off the tap. YOu're suggesting that (I) to care for someone is selfish and manipulative. Wrong.
This poem is about care. This poem is about greed and lust. You only care about someone because they make you happy. Think about it.
WX6[ck]
11-02-2003, 06:02 PM
Careing is helping someone so in turn they can help you. And when you help someone more then they do in return you call them manipulative and selfish. If you dont care for someone so they will care for you then why do you care?
Sindhu
11-02-2003, 08:46 PM
"] You only care about someone because they make you happy.
I like the poem. And I think I agree though I don't want to with what I''ve quoted. But I don't like it and I AM ashamed of it.
AbdoRinbo
11-03-2003, 05:12 PM
"]Careing is helping someone so in turn they can help you. And when you help someone more then they do in return you call them manipulative and selfish.
I couldn't disagree more.
WX6[ck], you had a bad experience? What make you think:
"]Careing is helping someone so in turn they can help you. And when you help someone more then they do in return you call them manipulative and selfish. If you dont care for someone so they will care for you then why do you care?
It all depends on what you're expecting from people you care about and why you care about them. Not everyone cares about the others awaiting some ups from the relations. Surem if you'd like, you could change everything I say the other way around, if you're not willing to see it in different colors, you never will. And I'm sad about that because then you won't know the not-for-profit caring as I think you look at that this way.
Hope I do make any sense. Strange things can happen to you when you spend lots of time studying Latin ;).
fayefaye
11-05-2003, 06:10 AM
sometimes u care about ppl because regardless of whether u want to or not, u can't not care. but i spose u care because they do stuff for u. if someone was only *****y to u, u couldn't really bring ur self to care that much unless u saw some good in them, could u? it brings up the idea that there's no such thing as a selfless good deed. either way, i think it's pretty true sometimes u help ppl because u know they'd be there for u too.. but sometimes u do it cuz they're always there, not because u want some kind of favour. i don't do more than i want to. if that's more than they'd do for me, that's ok, and if it's less then that's ok too. u shouldn't just do something because u want something in return, (isn't that manipulative and selfish?) u should do it because u want to help them.
sometimes u care about ppl because regardless of whether u want to or not, u can't not care
u should do it because u want to help them
can't agree more ;)
WX6[ck]
11-05-2003, 05:16 PM
I find that if i should care for someone they should give me some respect at least.
Well it depends on context here... of course we all expect respect from people we love (like family) and signifigant others. If they don't reciprocate well then a relationship isn't going to go very far is it?
I find that if i should care for someone they should give me some respect at least.
fayefaye
11-07-2003, 10:59 PM
"]I find that if i should care for someone they should give me some respect at least.
how much do u respect ppl who care for you?
WX6[ck]
11-09-2003, 06:23 PM
I guess ive never respected anybody but my family. Although everybody else thinks i do. Strangly enough i only confess to strangers.
I seem to do the same, I mean confessing to strangers thingy... but it's not a matter of respect, at least I think it's not.
fayefaye
11-10-2003, 07:45 AM
i either tell ppl everything about me or nothing at all. i what about friends? u gotta respect them. i think i do more than my family.
WX6[ck]
11-10-2003, 06:30 PM
I find careing for someone prevents me from who i really wanna be. I guess i psuedo-care for my friends.
fayefaye
11-12-2003, 06:22 AM
that's horrible! how can u pseudo-care? prevents u from who u really want to be? how?
=Monkey_King=
11-13-2003, 08:52 PM
I understand what you mean, with friends you meet again, they know what you told them and them staying around you reminds you that they know what you confessed, but a stranger only can give a feeling of being sorry after departing. Friends can be chains sometimes, they take you for what they think you are but many times they are mistaken, and your chained by the fact that you cannot act outside those assumtions.
Life can be very cruel if you think about it, this topic is a bit touchy and i wont give my opinion but it seems that many people are giving opinons without having a supporting desicive fact... its just going round and round :D
fayefaye
11-29-2003, 10:54 PM
Well I'll give my opinion anyway. I think you're both wrong. My close friends are the only people in this world who come NEAR to either knowing or understanding me. All the strangers don't have a clue. Real friends aren't chains AT ALL.
Stanislaw
12-01-2003, 10:47 PM
I think people only confess to strangers because that person has no eefect on your life, and it gives you a release from inner turmoil.
I also think that you have a bleak view on life, wx6.
nicholasburrus
12-01-2003, 10:57 PM
Good point
Stanislaw
12-01-2003, 11:13 PM
Thank you.
azmuse
12-04-2003, 12:59 AM
well like there's conditional and unconditional love, and caring falls under the latter realm...otherwise it's just quasi- or pseudo b.s... which is cool, but not to be confused with Caring
SmilesAF
03-08-2004, 04:59 PM
Hmm...it's a farily interesting element this care and selfishness... but think about it... the people who "care" about you just might end up being the people you'll need at some point in your life. So, who will you have if you push them away? yourself, sure, but being by yourself is not always the best company. Maybe "care" is only greed to you, but i feel that there are many more emotions under care. just my opinion. Nice poem though!
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