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Pensive
03-26-2006, 11:27 AM
This game is quite easy and simple. Write a quote or a proverb containing a word from previous quote or proverb. :D

Any fool can know, the point is to understand - Einstein

Riesa
03-26-2006, 11:57 AM
Sounds like fun, Pensive. :D



“The evil that is in the world almost always comes of ignorance, and good intentions may do as much harm as malevolence if they lack understanding.” Albert Camus

ElizabethSewall
03-26-2006, 12:00 PM
"Ignorance of one’s misfortunes is clear gain." Euripides

Pensive
03-26-2006, 12:01 PM
Pen is stronger than sword. (English Proverb)

Pendragon
03-26-2006, 12:21 PM
"That which does not kill me makes me stronger." Nietchez

Xamonas Chegwe
03-26-2006, 12:22 PM
Let none presume to tell me that the pen is preferable to the sword. Miguel Cervantes (1547-1616)

Pensive
03-26-2006, 12:29 PM
Lol, well Xamonous, it is a matter of opinions.

Make hay while the sun shines - English Proverb

~ If anyone of you think that your quote or proverb needs explanation, you are welcome to explain it to make it more clear.

Ryduce
03-26-2006, 12:40 PM
If you ever drop your keys into a river of molten lava, let 'em go, because, man, they're gone.-Jack Handy





It's so true.

papayahed
03-26-2006, 10:12 PM
Man who eats many beans has brown spots on his jeans - I heard that attributed to Confucius but I don't think thats quite right.

Dixie Chick
03-26-2006, 10:53 PM
Instead of having "answers" on a math test, they should just call them "impressions," and if you got a different "impression," so what, can't we all be brothers?

Jack Handley

Eva Marina
03-26-2006, 11:16 PM
“To send light into the darkness of men's hearts - such is the duty of the artist.”
Robert A. Schumann

Dixie Chick
03-27-2006, 12:14 AM
Faith is the bird that feels the light when the dawn is still dark.

--Rabindranath Tagore

Basil
03-27-2006, 01:28 AM
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Pensive
03-27-2006, 05:01 AM
I want to know God's thoughts, the rest are details - Einstein

Basil
03-27-2006, 02:44 PM
The devil is in the details.

Scheherazade
03-27-2006, 02:50 PM
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

Xamonas Chegwe
03-27-2006, 03:00 PM
Great novels are always a little more intelligent than their authors.

Milan Kundera

NNoah3
03-27-2006, 05:14 PM
"A little sincerity is a dangerous thing, and a great deal of it is absolutely fatal"

Oscar Wilde

Virgil
03-27-2006, 05:21 PM
"Mad, bad, and dangerous to know" - Lady Caroline Lamb referring to Lord Byron.

Hey, are we playing correctly? Aren't we supposed to take a word from the previous quote and use it in your own? I'm not sure I see everyone doing that.

Basil
03-27-2006, 05:28 PM
A little learning is a dang'rous Thing - Alexander Pope

Xamonas Chegwe
03-27-2006, 05:30 PM
I think you'll find that most have got 'it' or 'the' in them somewhere Virg. :nod:

The letter of the law perhaps, if not the spirit.


I dislike censorship. Like an appendix it is useless when inert and dangerous when active. Maurice Edelman (1911-1975)

NNoah3
03-27-2006, 06:03 PM
"When anger rises, think of the consequences" Confucius

Xamonas Chegwe
03-27-2006, 06:08 PM
"When anger rises, think of the consequences" Confucius

That definitely didn't have any words from the last post - read the rules please NNoah!

NNoah3
03-27-2006, 06:11 PM
I am wondering if the word "When" doesn't count....

Xamonas Chegwe
03-27-2006, 06:15 PM
Humble apologies - I must have gone through that 5 times! :lol:

NNoah3
03-27-2006, 06:21 PM
It's OK, I was looking for another quote with the word "dangerous, or dislike" but I didn't find it. Or maybe is because I am hungry. Time to leave for my lunch....:D
See you in a little while. :wave:

chmpman
03-27-2006, 06:21 PM
I think, therefore I am - Descartes

Virgil
03-27-2006, 06:25 PM
"I hate definitions." -Benjamin Disreali

I have no idea of the context, but it does sound like something a politician would say in a private moment.

Riesa
03-27-2006, 06:29 PM
"I hate quotations. Tell me what you know."
--Ralph Waldo Emerson

NNoah3
03-27-2006, 07:27 PM
"What's the use of a good quotation if you can't change it? .
Doctor Who

Pensive
03-28-2006, 01:45 AM
Hope is the thing with feathers,
That perches in the soul,
And sings the tune without words,
And never stops at all. :nod:

~ Emily Dickinson

chmpman
03-28-2006, 01:51 AM
Hope springs eternal in the human breast - Alexander Pope

Or something like that, I may be forgetting an apostrophe.

Pensive
03-28-2006, 02:04 AM
When by my solitary hearth, I sit
and hateful thoughts unwrap my soul in gloom;
When no fair dreams before my mind's eye flit,
And the bare hearth of life presents no bloom;
Sweet hope, ethereal balm upon me shed,
And wave thy silver pinions over my head

~John Keats

Scheherazade
03-28-2006, 03:04 AM
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it."

George Bernard Shaw

Pensive
03-28-2006, 07:18 AM
Hope is hope for infinite hope - Tolikien

Virgil
03-28-2006, 08:30 AM
Alas! Poor Yorick. I knew him Horatio; a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy - William Shakespeare

Pendragon
03-28-2006, 09:38 AM
"If you call a sheep's tail a leg, it still only has four legs. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it one" Abraham Lincoln

Pensive
03-28-2006, 11:15 AM
Proud people breed sorrows for themselves. (English Proverb)

Virgil
03-28-2006, 11:48 AM
Walt Whitman, a kosmos, of Manhattan the son,
Turbulent, fleshy, sensual, eating, drinking, and breeding,
No sentimentalist, no stander above men and women or apart from them,
No more modest than immodest.

Walt Whitman, from Song of Myself

Pensive
03-28-2006, 12:12 PM
To have great poets, then there must be great audiences too - Walt Whitman.

(Have you by any chance, Virgil, read Dialogue? It was a magazine. My grandpa brought the edition Volume:9 published in 1976 from USA and he has given it to me now. It is great)

Virgil
03-28-2006, 12:14 PM
To have great poets, then there must be great audiences too - Walt Whitman.

(Have you by any chance, Virgil, read Dialogue? It was a magazine. My grandpa brought the edition Colume:9 in 1976 from USA and he has given it to me now. It is great)
No, I don't think so. It sounds familiar. I'll look it up.

NNoah3
03-28-2006, 01:04 PM
"Human beings have the remarkable ability to turn nothing into something. They can turn weeds into gardens and pennies into fortunes". Jim Rohn

Pensive
03-28-2006, 01:33 PM
Literature----the most seductive, the most deceiving, the most dangerous of professions - John Morley

NNoah3
03-28-2006, 01:52 PM
Choose the life that is most useful, and habit will make it the most agreeable.
-- Francis Bacon

rachel
03-28-2006, 04:46 PM
"A friend is one who sticks closer than a brother." Proverbs, Holy Bible.

Eva Marina
03-28-2006, 05:05 PM
"But screw your courage to the sticking-place and we'll not fail." --Lady Macbeth, Shakespeare

NNoah3
03-28-2006, 06:10 PM
"Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear... not absence of fear". Mark Twain

chmpman
03-28-2006, 06:15 PM
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself. - FDR

NNoah3
03-28-2006, 06:36 PM
"Fear is that little darkroom where negatives are developed". Michael Pritchard

Xamonas Chegwe
03-28-2006, 07:02 PM
The challenge of screenwriting is to say much in little and then take half of that little out and still preserve an effect of leisure and movement. Raymond Chandler (1888 - 1959)

Basil
03-28-2006, 07:34 PM
"Baseball is 90% mental, the other half is physical." Yogi Berra

Virgil
03-29-2006, 12:18 AM
"Well, that's baseball. Rags to riches one day and riches to rags the next. But I've been in it thirty-six years and I'm used to it."
Casey Stengel

Pensive
03-29-2006, 02:18 AM
A stitch in time saves nine. (Proverb)

Mililalil XXIV
03-29-2006, 03:56 AM
Time waits for no man. [Old English]

Pensive
03-29-2006, 07:02 AM
A closed mouth catches no fly. (Proverb)

Pendragon
03-29-2006, 08:12 AM
"A mind is like a parachute--only function when open!"--Charlie Chan

Scheherazade
03-29-2006, 02:34 PM
"A true friend stabs you in the front."

Oscar Wilde

Xamonas Chegwe
03-29-2006, 02:46 PM
Whenever a friend succeeds, a little something in me dies. Gore Vidal (1925 - )

NNoah3
03-29-2006, 02:47 PM
"When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends".
Japanese Proverb

papayahed
03-29-2006, 02:51 PM
"Man who lives in glass house should get dressed in the basement"

-another quote attributed to Confucius but i'm sligthly skeptical

Basil
03-29-2006, 02:55 PM
The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation - Henry David Thoreau

NNoah3
03-29-2006, 03:25 PM
"Don't accept rides from strange men, and remember that all men are strange".
Robin Morgan

Riesa
03-29-2006, 03:39 PM
If one synchronised swimmer drowns, do all the rest have to drown too?
~ Steven Wright

Xamonas Chegwe
03-29-2006, 03:55 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


All good writing is swimming under water and holding your breath. F. Scott Fitzgerald (1896 - 1940)

I bet everyone's quote dictionaries are getting a good airing in this thread. :D

Scheherazade
03-29-2006, 06:56 PM
All great truths begin as blasphemies.

George Bernard Shaw

chmpman
03-29-2006, 06:59 PM
All this worldly wisdom was once the unamiable heresy of some wise man - Thoreau

Weird, almost the same quote.

NNoah3
03-29-2006, 06:59 PM
I bet everyone's quote dictionaries are getting a good airing in this thread. :D
I bet you are right!!!! :lol: :lol:


The skill of writing is to create a context in which other people can think.
Edwin Schlossberg

Pendragon
03-29-2006, 07:28 PM
"A bore is a person who talks when you wish him to listen." Ambrose Bierce

kilted exile
03-29-2006, 08:04 PM
"A bore is a person who deprives you of solitude, without providing you with company" ~ Gian Vincenzo Gravina

Mililalil XXIV
03-29-2006, 08:47 PM
James E. Burke:
We don't grow unless we take risks. Any successful company is riddled with failures.

Eva Marina
03-29-2006, 10:31 PM
If your life is free of failures, you're not taking enough risks. --Anonymous

Virgil
03-29-2006, 10:46 PM
Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom, and then lost it, have never known it again.

-Ronald Reagan

Ryduce
03-29-2006, 10:49 PM
Damn those hirajuku girls have some wicked style!!
-Some guy I know

Virgil
03-29-2006, 10:54 PM
OK, if we're going into friends, how about:

Marriage isn't as bad as people say it is; but it's not as good as people say it either.

OK, I fudged on the game rules.

rachel
03-29-2006, 11:46 PM
Damn those hirajuku girls have some wicked style!!
-Some guy I know


aw Ry, a hug for you. you are irrepressable, sweet and well basically adorable. :D :banana: :nod:

rachel
03-29-2006, 11:48 PM
"My father told me all about the birds and the bees-the liar, I went steady with a woodpecker until I was twenty one." Bob Hope

NNoah3
03-30-2006, 01:42 PM
"It is not only fine feathers that make fine birds".
Aesop

myself
03-30-2006, 02:51 PM
love is always chatter, it is your friends that matter

Riesa
03-30-2006, 02:57 PM
Do not use a hatchet to remove a fly from your friend's forehead."
- Chinese Proverb

ElizabethSewall
03-30-2006, 03:09 PM
"Do not employ handsome servants." :lol:

Chinese proverb.

tn2743
03-30-2006, 03:13 PM
I agree. that would not be a good idea! :)

"Twice the danger, twice the glory." Vietnamese proverb.

Virgil
03-30-2006, 04:09 PM
"If you meet it promptly and without flinching - you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!"
Winston Churchill


I don't know if I would agree with the second part of that. Sometimes a good run is required.

Xamonas Chegwe
03-30-2006, 04:23 PM
"If you meet it promptly and without flinching - you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!"
Winston Churchill


I don't know if I would agree with the second part of that. Sometimes a good run is required.

I quite agree, facing down a speeding truck can be messy. :D

tn2743
03-30-2006, 04:32 PM
Running is definitely a good idea sometimes. Like when it suddenly starts to rain and you're carrying your dry cleaning back home.

Mililalil XXIV
03-31-2006, 05:33 AM
"Excellent is Joy when quarrel and violence are far from it."

Menander.

smilingtearz
03-31-2006, 06:05 AM
Whatever you fear most has no power - it is your fear that has the power.
----Oprah Winfrey

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It's not that I'm afraid to die, I just don't want to be there when it happens.
---Woody Allen

Mililalil XXIV
03-31-2006, 06:08 AM
"I came, I saw, I conquered."

Kaiser Julius.

smilingtearz
03-31-2006, 06:10 AM
veni..vedi..vici.. :D

Mililalil XXIV
03-31-2006, 06:29 AM
"I can just see you, standing in front of the stove - but I can't see the stove!"

Groucho Marx

smilingtearz
03-31-2006, 07:18 AM
DUH!!! (sorry couldn't help not saying that!)

Pendragon
03-31-2006, 10:34 AM
"When one is in love one always begins by deceiving oneself, and ends by deceiving others. That is what the world calls a 'romance'" Oscar Wilde

"Romance should never begin with sentiment,
It should begin with science, and end with a settlement!" Oscar Wilde

Taliesin
03-31-2006, 11:04 AM
"One cannot see the shine of his/her eyes himself/herself"

Udmurtian proverb

Virgil
03-31-2006, 12:23 PM
"Better to illuminate than merely to shine, to deliver to others contemplated truths than merely to contemplate."
Saint Thomas Aquinas

Riesa
03-31-2006, 12:27 PM
"How dull it is to pause, to make an end, to rust unburnished, not to shine in use! As though to breathe were life."
Alfred Lord Tennyson

Pensive
03-31-2006, 12:32 PM
Can't think of any good quote or proverb this time. *thinking smile*

Life is a great experiment - Khalil Gibran

NNoah3
03-31-2006, 01:03 PM
"Where there is great love, there are always wishes".
Willa Cather

Mililalil XXIV
03-31-2006, 03:37 PM
"Can we fix it?"

Bob the Builder

Pendragon
03-31-2006, 09:18 PM
"I have nothing to declare except my genius!" Oscar Wilde, going through customs at New York.

Mark Twain, upon being shown a bottle of hootch in a suitcase he had just said contained only clothes: " That, sir, is my nightcap!"

Riesa
03-31-2006, 09:23 PM
Mark Twain, upon being shown a bottle of hootch in a suitcase he had just said contained only clothes: " That, sir, is my nightcap!"
Good Ol' Samuel.
"Everyone is a genius at least once a year. The real geniuses simply have their bright ideas closer together. " ~ Lichtenberg

Xamonas Chegwe
03-31-2006, 09:48 PM
A man of genius makes no mistakes. His errors are volitional and are the portals of discovery. James Joyce (1882 - 1941)

Eva Marina
04-01-2006, 08:46 AM
"The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes."
--Marcel Proust

Pendragon
04-01-2006, 09:37 AM
"It takes less time to do a thing right than it does to explain why you did it wrong."Longfellow :thumbs_up

NNoah3
04-03-2006, 06:13 PM
There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself.
Johann Sebastian Bach

Pendragon
04-04-2006, 09:40 AM
Positive: Mistaken at the top of one's lungs Ambrose Bierce :thumbs_up

tn2743
04-05-2006, 08:52 PM
"Hakuna Matata." - Timon & Pumbaa

Riesa
04-05-2006, 09:04 PM
To regret one's own experiences is to arrest one's own development. To deny one's own experiences is to put a lie into the lips of one's life. It is no less than a denial of the soul.
Oscar Wilde

Pendragon
04-05-2006, 10:27 PM
One of my favorites, attributed to Winston Churchhill "Yes, madam, I may be drunk. But you are ugly. And in the morning, I'll be sober!" :D

NNoah3
04-06-2006, 04:31 PM
Oh, Pendragon! A good One!!!!! :D

"You cannot tailor-make the situations in life but you can tailor-make the attitudes to fit those situations"
Zig Ziglar

Riesa
04-06-2006, 04:41 PM
You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
Ray Bradbury

NNoah3
04-06-2006, 05:01 PM
You got to be careful if you don't know where you're going, because you might not get there.
Yogi Berra

tn2743
04-06-2006, 05:50 PM
"Work is love made visible." - K. Gibran

Pensive
04-07-2006, 09:43 AM
Violence is the large refuge of the incompetent - Isaac Asimov.

NNoah3
04-07-2006, 11:53 AM
Imagination is the highest kite one can fly.
Lauren Bacall

tn2743
04-07-2006, 12:19 PM
"That money talks
I'll not deny,
I heard it once;
It said, 'good-bye.'"

Richard Armour

Riesa
04-07-2006, 02:28 PM
Cares deny all rest to weary limbs. Virgil

Wow, good one, Virg. :nod:

Xamonas Chegwe
04-07-2006, 03:11 PM
Were you to die, it would be a limb lopped off.

Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)

NNoah3
04-07-2006, 03:40 PM
Wait a minute!!!


Imagination is the highest kite one can fly.
Lauren Bacall

Next post:


"That money talks
I'll not deny,
I heard it once;
It said, 'good-bye.'"

Richard Armour

If I am not wrong the second quote doesn't have a word for the first or at last I can't see it.
We must to follow the rules, don't you agree?

tn2743
04-07-2006, 09:13 PM
My apologies; I shall abide by the rules from now on.

Pendragon
04-07-2006, 10:27 PM
My apologies; I shall abide by the rules from now on.Do not feel too bad. In going back over my own posts, I have keep the rule only by accident at times, and at others completely forgotten it myself! :goof:

Now for a quote:

I die well paid, whist my expiring breath,
Smiles o're the tombs of foes made kin by death... Dutch Epigram

Mililalil XXIV
04-07-2006, 10:28 PM
All I want is what's coming to me; all I want is my fair share!
Charles Schultz

rabid reader
04-08-2006, 08:59 PM
"Maybe I'll be there to take you hand. Maybe I'll be their to share they land. Then we'll give it away when we all live together"- The Guess Who

Pendragon
04-08-2006, 08:59 PM
"Punishment of a miser--to pay the drafts of his heirs in his tomb." Hawthorne

Xamonas Chegwe
04-08-2006, 09:12 PM
A best-seller is the gilded tomb of a mediocre talent.

Logan Pearsall Smith (1865 - 1946)

rabid reader
04-08-2006, 09:15 PM
Learning carries within itself certain dangers because out of necessity one has to learn from one's enemies.

Leon Trotsky

kilted exile
04-08-2006, 09:34 PM
Never seem more learned than the people you are with. Wear your learning like a pocket watch and keep it hidden. Do not pull it out to count the hours, but give the time when you are asked.

Lord Chesterfield

rabid reader
04-09-2006, 04:07 PM
The roots of education are better, but the friut is sweet- Aristotle

ElizabethSewall
04-09-2006, 04:09 PM
"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." Mark Twain :D

Pendragon
04-09-2006, 10:37 PM
"A person who sets in to carry a cat home by the tail is getting an education that will last him a lifetime!" Mark Twain :lol:

Virgil
04-09-2006, 10:45 PM
A lifetime of training for just ten seconds.
Jesse Owens

Riesa
04-10-2006, 01:19 PM
"They are so damn 'intellectual' and rotten that I can't stand them anymore....I [would] rather sit on the floor in the market of Toluca and sell tortillas, than have anything to do with those 'artistic' *****es of Paris. "[on Andre Breton and the European surrealists ]- Frida Kahlo

Pensive
04-23-2006, 07:32 AM
Men at forty
Learn to close softly
The doors to rooms
They will not be
Coming back to

- Donald Justice

NNoah3
04-24-2006, 04:49 PM
"We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools".
Martin Luther King Jr.

Pensive
04-25-2006, 12:36 AM
To be or not to be, that's the real question - Hamlet (Shakespeare)

Pendragon
04-25-2006, 07:40 AM
"The only way to get the best of an arguement is to avoid it." Dale Carnegie

Pensive
04-25-2006, 08:06 AM
Life is that what you might not regret right now, but it can be something in a matter of even an hour that you will regret severely - Pensive

NNoah3
04-25-2006, 11:51 AM
"People come into your life for a reason, a season, or a lifetime. When you figure out which it is, you'll know exactly what to do".
Michelle Ventor

ElizabethSewall
04-26-2006, 02:01 AM
"Life is just a mirror, and what you see out there, you must first see inside of you."
W.F. Amos

NNoah3
04-26-2006, 02:45 PM
"Success on the outside begins with success on the inside".
The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari

Pensive
04-27-2006, 12:22 AM
An optimist stays up until midnight to see the new year in. A pessimist stays up to make sure the old year leaves - Bill Vaughan

NNoah3
04-27-2006, 03:18 PM
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Rooselvet

optimisticnad
04-27-2006, 03:42 PM
'I feel as if I were a piece in a game of chess, when my opponent says of it: That piece cannot be moved.' Soren Kierkegaard.

(Endgame by Beckett is good for this kind of idea-if you're interested)

NNoah3
04-27-2006, 04:21 PM
"Say only what you mean.
The word is the most powerful tool we have as humans".

Don Miguel Ruiz - From the book The Four Agreements

rachel
04-27-2006, 05:30 PM
hullo dearest NNoah, little country girl. miss you.

We believe fishermen, not dialecticians.--Saint Ambrose

NNoah3
04-27-2006, 06:17 PM
Hullo dear Rachel!!!!!! I just wrote down a message for you in the Live Chat.

"Anger or hatred is like a fisherman's hook. It is very important for us to ensure that we are not caught by it".
Dalai Lama

TBtheG
04-27-2006, 07:43 PM
"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer."
Frank Zappa

rachel
04-28-2006, 02:05 AM
this is so true, that is why I have my own country, just keep the proof in the fridge and I don't even drink.I am beginning to think you should run for president or something, that is when we get back from camping!

blondeatheart
05-02-2006, 05:41 AM
lol my parents are polish poland has heaps of their own beers its prty cool

"A moment in time is like a kiss given in thought"

i dont quite get it and i dont kno who its by but the more it think about it the less i understand - its mysterious thats why i like it!

Pensive
05-02-2006, 08:32 AM
I think that it means that a moment in time is not worth much....that's what I can get but I am not sure that I am right.

A friend in need is a friend indeed - Unknown

Riesa
05-02-2006, 12:04 PM
You can pick your friends, you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose. ~ some joker. :D

NNoah3
05-02-2006, 12:12 PM
"And speaking of friendships, make sure you keep them in constant repair. A person with three solid friends is very wealthy indeed".
The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari

NNoah3
05-23-2006, 02:00 PM
"Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven't learned anything."
Muhammad Alí

NNoah3
05-30-2006, 06:26 PM
"I have learnt silence from the talkative, toleration from the intolerant, and kindness from the unkind; yet strange, I am ungrateful to these teachers."
Kahlil Gibran

rabid reader
05-31-2006, 10:20 PM
I have seen great intolerance shown in support of tolerance.
Samuel Taylor Coleridge

Pensive
06-01-2006, 11:37 AM
Surprise becomes effective when we suddenly face the enemy at one point with far more troops than he expected. This type of numerical superiority is quite distinct from numerical superiority in general: it is the most powerful medium in the art of war.
~ Carl von Clausewitz

Pensive
01-05-2007, 12:34 PM
REVIVED THREAD!

See here (http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20998)