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IrishCanadian
01-20-2006, 10:48 PM
I'v been looking ... and have reason to believe that there is no Alexander Pope here. GASP!
SO, I am hereby requesting some Alexander Pope.
Cheers

Virgil
01-20-2006, 11:38 PM
Hear, hear.

Love this quote from Pope on Isaac Newton:
"Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night:
God said, Let Newton be! and all was light."

rachel
01-27-2006, 01:31 PM
To me that shows the same theme as the entire of the Silmarillion, that there is the One and then the beings outside of time that asked to be allowed to go inside of the music, that which was created. They were gods, mighty ones and thru them the One created many things, that is the creative genius of His mind he gave of some to them.
It rather reminds me in a crude way of a loving papa who is a master carver and lets his growing son who has watched and learned have a hand in creating something. Beautiful

The Unnamable
01-31-2006, 12:49 PM
Pope is one of my heroes.

“Yes, I am proud; I must be proud to see
Men not afraid of God, afraid of me:”

http://ethnicity.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Texts/arbuthnot.html - Epistle to Dr. Arbuthnot

http://eserver.org/poetry/rape-of-the-lock.html - The Rape of the Lock


http://eserver.org/poetry/moral-essay-ii.txt - Epistle to A Lady (with its great opening:

“Nothing so true as what you once let fall,
"Most Women have no Characters at all."
Matter too soft a lasting mark to bear,
And best distinguish'd by black, brown, or fair.”)

http://rpo.library.utoronto.ca/poet/263.html - a selection including these lines that end The Dunciad:

In vain, in vain--the all-composing hour
Resistless falls: The Muse obeys the Pow'r.
She comes! she comes! the sable throne behold
Of Night primeval, and of Chaos old!
Before her, Fancy's gilded clouds decay,
And all its varying rainbows die away.
Wit shoots in vain its momentary fires,
The meteor drops, and in a flash expires.
As one by one, at dread Medea's strain,
The sick'ning stars fade off th' ethereal plain;
As Argus' eyes by Hermes' wand oppress'd,
Clos'd one by one to everlasting rest;
Thus at her felt approach, and secret might,
Art after Art goes out, and all is Night.
See skulking Truth to her old cavern fled,
Mountains of Casuistry heap'd o'er her head!
Philosophy, that lean'd on Heav'n before,
Shrinks to her second cause, and is no more.
Physic of Metaphysic begs defence,
And Metaphysic calls for aid on Sense !
See Mystery to Mathematics fly!
In vain! they gaze, turn giddy, rave, and die.
Religion blushing veils her sacred fires,
And unawares Morality expires.
Nor public Flame, nor private , dares to shine;
Nor human Spark is left, nor Glimpse divine !
Lo! thy dread Empire, Chaos! is restor'd;
Light dies before thy uncreating word:
Thy hand, great Anarch! lets the curtain fall;
And universal Darkness buries All.


I can't help feeling they have a certain relevance to here and now.

fiz
01-01-2007, 12:24 PM
But when to Mischief Mortals bend their Will,
How soon they find fit Instruments of Ill!
Just then, Clarissa drew with tempting Grace
A two-edg'd Weapon from her shining Case;
So Ladies in Romance assist their Knight,
Present the Spear, and arm him for the Fight.
He takes the Gift with rev'rence, and extends
The little Engine on his Finger's Ends:
This just behind Belinda's Neck he spread,
As o'er the fragrant Steams she bends her Head:
Swift to the Lock a thousand Sprights repair,
A thousand Wings, by turns, blow back the Hair,
And thrice they twitch'd the Diamond in her Ear,
Thrice she look'd back, and thrice the Foe drew near.
Just in that instant, anxious Ariel sought
The close Recesses of the Virgin's Thought;
As on the Nosegay in her Breast reclin'd,
He watch'd th' Ideas rising in her Mind,
Sudden he view'd, in spite of all her Art,
An Earthly Lover lurking at her Heart.
Amaz'd, confus'd, he found his Pow'r expir'd,
Resign'd to Fate, and with a Sigh retir'd.

The Peer now spreads the glitt'ring Forfex wide,
T'inclose the Lock; now joins it, to divide.
Ev'n then, before the fatal Engine clos'd,
A wretched Sylph too fondly interpos'd;
Fate urg'd the Sheers, and cut the Sylph in twain,
(But Airy Substance soon unites again)
The meeting Points that sacred Hair dissever
From the fair Head, for ever and for ever!

can u plzzzzz help me out with this extract!! i dont what the hell is going on in it and i need to know. i have to do a presentaion about it. can you please point out some techniques and effects!! that would be great help!! thank you soo much!!!!

Logos
01-01-2007, 12:27 PM
I'v been looking ... and have reason to believe that there is no Alexander Pope here. GASP!
SO, I am hereby requesting some Alexander Pope.
Cheers
He is on the list to be added :)