Beatrice

[IrishCanadian]

I watched this great Itallian movie called El Postino (the postman). In it one of the charcters makes reference to an ancient love poem called Beatrice. Pronounced bee-tri'cheh. Actually the film was a little unclear ... i m not sure if it was called Beatrice or if it was about a woman named Beatrice. So I'm just wondering if anyone knows the poem or has a link to it.
Cheers.

[rachel]

la Vita Nuova is the poem that Dante wrote about the woman he had loved since he was nine and she was eight. Her name was Beatrice.
Is this what you are thinking of?

[Virgil]

And of course Dante has Beatrice appear in The Divine Comedy, predominantly in Paradiso.

[rachel]

Virgil,
if you were a teacher I would buy off a dozen students just to learn from you. I knew you were patient and after my head injury I would have loved to have someone like you to help me out. I had a boss at a lawyer referral agency that would be livid with me if I didn't work things out on computer the way she did. but I simply didn't process things the same way after the head injury.
About Dante, what a man.So complex and deep. Imagine seeing Beatrice when she was but eight and seeing all that he put down in paradisio from a couple of impressions. Oh the depth and wonder of the man. I revere him greatly.

[Virgil]

Virgil,
if you were a teacher I would buy off a dozen students just to learn from you. I knew you were patient and after my head injury I would have loved to have someone like you to help me out. I had a boss at a lawyer referral agency that would be livid with me if I didn't work things out on computer the way she did. but I simply didn't process things the same way after the head injury.
About Dante, what a man.So complex and deep. Imagine seeing Beatrice when she was but eight and seeing all that he put down in paradisio from a couple of impressions. Oh the depth and wonder of the man. I revere him greatly.
Thanks Rachel. If there is anyway to help you in the future let me know. I just completed Inferno this past week. It took me a long time started in July - same time as my father going to the nursing home), squeezing a canto here and a canto there. I also read three different translations to get various versions since I don't really read Italian. As soon as I'm done with Shakespeare's Cymbeline (one of those Shakespeare plays I've never read before) I'll get to Purgatorio.

[rachel]

did you look up Gustave Dore on Art Passions to find all his pencil drawings on Dante's work? I could sit and look at them for weeks on end. The power and the majesty, the intricacies, they are unbelievable. I wonder what Dante himself would have thought of them.
give Brandi a hug for me. I don't want a dog for a pet as per usual because of all the upkeep and cleaning up and such, but something about that dog and her luminous nature that shines thru her eyes is haungtingly beautiful.

[rachel]

did you look up Gustave Dore on Art Passions to find all his pencil drawings on Dante's work? I could sit and look at them for weeks on end. The power and the majesty, the intricacies, they are unbelievable. I wonder what Dante himself would have thought of them.
give Brandi a hug for me. I don't want a dog for a pet as per usual because of all the upkeep and cleaning up and such, but something about that dog and her luminous nature that shines thru her eyes is haungtingly beautiful.
just now i snuck into Art Passions and sent Purgatorio 7 to Mono, who was rather the father of this forum. I wish you two could meet. He would be delighted with you.

[Virgil]

did you look up Gustave Dore on Art Passions to find all his pencil drawings on Dante's work? I could sit and look at them for weeks on end. The power and the majesty, the intricacies, they are unbelievable. I wonder what Dante himself would have thought of them.
give Brandi a hug for me. I don't want a dog for a pet as per usual because of all the upkeep and cleaning up and such, but something about that dog and her luminous nature that shines thru her eyes is haungtingly beautiful.
just now i snuck into Art Passions and sent Purgatorio 7 to Mono, who was rather the father of this forum. I wish you two could meet. He would be delighted with you.
No. I'll have to do that. I hope it's on the internet. Thanks.

[rachel]

It is Virgil,
go to google then just write Art Passions and press I'm feeling lucky.

[Virgil]

Oh thank you Rachel. Actually one of the translations includes these drawings. I didn't realize they were famous. I think I'll print them out.

[IrishCanadian]

Wow, I waited for a while for someone to have any idea what the heck i was talking about. Thanks fellows! ... I think it was Dante now. Cheers

[IrishCanadian]

Oh by the way, I strongly sugest watching El Postino (where I heard of the poem in the first place) and Cinima Paradiso (by the same director). The latter is my favorite movie ever ... and i lerv my movies ;)

[Virgil]

Oh by the way, I strongly sugest watching El Postino (where I heard of the poem in the first place) and Cinima Paradiso (by the same director). The latter is my favorite movie ever ... and i lerv my movies ;)
I know I've seen parts or perhaps all of El(?) (isn't it "Il") Postino but I can't remember a wit of it. I'll have to check out the other movie as well. Aren't they in Italian?

[rachel]

you are so welcome Irish Canadian. I read what you wrote about 2005. You sound so grounded and such a nice person. May God's arms always be around you and may you hear His whispered words to follow Him and see your life's fulfillment.

[IrishCanadian]

Aw, thank you so much rachel. God Bless you too! It really has been a great year. I am blessed ... to be in this forum and to have had such a decent year.
Virgil, Yes they are Itallian. Cinima Paradiso is much better than Il Postino (yor right about the spelling). If you watch Cinima Paradiso, don't watch the director's cut ... jus the theatricle one. The former made me pretty upset with some of the characters.
Cheers

[Petrarch's Love]

I'm pretty new to these forums, and how delighted I was to find a thread with enthusiastic Dante fans! So many people seem to get to the line "Abandon hope all ye who enter here", take it literally, and stop reading. I agree with Rachel that the Dore illustrations are really beautifully done. I have an edition of the Divina Commedia with his drawings which I just love. There have been many artistic interpretations of Dante through the ages, beginning with some great manuscript illuminations from his time period. I thought I'd give some links that include some of the more famous artists' interpretations such as those by Botticelli, William Blake, and Salvador Dali, just in case anyone was interested:

http://dante.ilt.columbia.edu/images/index.html
http://www.blakearchive.org/cgi-bin/nph-dweb/blake/Non-Illuminated/draw_paint/watercolor/BUT812/BUT812.1/@Generic__BookView;cv=java
http://www.dalionline.com/hell.html

Il Postino is among my favorite films. Thanks for reminding me of it Irish Canadian.

Best fortune to Virgil as he strikes out into Purgatory--though given that he is "Virgil", I'm sure he'll get through just fine. (By the by, which translation do you like the best of the ones you've tried?)

[rachel]

Welcome Petrarch's Love,
wow another fan and you came with gifts. thankyou a bunch!
Just out of curiousity what do all of you think about Dante the man in all his facets?